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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:02 PM Mar 2014

I Got A Bus Earlier, And A Woman Was Being Tortured..GRAPHIC PICS....dial up warning..EDITED info

Last edited Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:43 PM - Edit history (4)







More at the link: http://www.upworthy.com/i-got-a-bus-earlier-and-a-woman-was-being-tortured-right-next-to-me-2?c=ufb3


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The campaign, created by Zurich-based advertising agency Walker, consisted of 200 individual posters, each meticulously matched to its specific surroundings, showing actual scenes of human rights abuse from around the world.

Creating an advertising campaign for a sensitive subject is never easy. After all, no one wants to dramatise a drama, as Pius Walker, the man responsible for the campaign’s art direction, copywriting and overall creative direction, points out.

"Advertising for touchy subjects doesn’t profit from exaggeration. What was needed here was the simplest truth being told in the simplest way. Something no one can argue with is harder to ignore."

Renowned for its straight-talking, hard-hitting campaigns, Amnesty International is a worldwide network of people who campaign for internationally recognised human rights for all.

In this case, the campaign, titled ‘It’s Not Happening Here But It’s Happening Now’, was directed at the people of Switzerland and aimed not only to make them aware of the issue of human rights abuse but also to stimulate discussion on the subject.

*snip*

The posters were created using images taken by reporters who had actually witnessed the scenes and, as a result, were are able to record the abuse as it happened. These were then juxtaposed with local background images.

*snip*

http://www.dandad.org/learning/case-studies/amnesty-international-it-s-not-happening-here-but-it-s-happening-now



many more images: https://www.google.com/search?q=amnesty+international+it%27s+not+happening+here+campaign&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=nRsiU9b6K8670AGx9oCICw&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=796










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I Got A Bus Earlier, And A Woman Was Being Tortured..GRAPHIC PICS....dial up warning..EDITED info (Original Post) one_voice Mar 2014 OP
Great Campaign! William769 Mar 2014 #1
Absolutely brilliant BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #2
In your face, you can't ignore it. Good campaign. Scuba Mar 2014 #3
Yeah, I want to explain this shit to my 6 year old elehhhhna Mar 2014 #8
Ah, geez... Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #10
I think the idea is noamnety Mar 2014 #11
It is the perfect TEACHABLE MOMENT! MsPithy Mar 2014 #13
For a three year old? Yeah, right. That would work well. pnwmom Mar 2014 #26
The "example," child is six, not three. MsPithy Mar 2014 #48
Six? Three? Who cares? Any age small child could be walking down that street. pnwmom Mar 2014 #55
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #59
Actually, that's how you buy yourself 6 months worth of sleepless nights as your child, Squinch Mar 2014 #31
At that age my kid was terrified of Spiderman and anglerfish. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #37
Very young children can't process certain things. They do need to have things edited for them. Squinch Mar 2014 #38
They need parental explanations and guidance and reassurance. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #39
So in your opinion, this terrifying image of an impending stabbing by wierdly hooded person with Squinch Mar 2014 #40
It's awful because you, an adult, know the context. A child sees worse things on movie posters LeftyMom Mar 2014 #42
So, do you keep your kids locked in the bathroom on Halloween MsPithy Mar 2014 #43
Do you let your pre-schoolers watch the Saw movies? Squinch Mar 2014 #45
Haven't thought up a reason why you don't protect your kids from Halloween? MsPithy Mar 2014 #49
So you don't let your preschoolers watch the Saw movies? Squinch Mar 2014 #53
My small kids had our whole house to be in before they were old enough pnwmom Mar 2014 #58
Right. Every place that children go they should be exposed to horrifying images pnwmom Mar 2014 #57
Stop it, right fucking now! MsPithy Mar 2014 #60
You have become terribly calloused if you don't realize the violence in some of those images. pnwmom Mar 2014 #61
But we don't have to deliberately insert horrifying images into public spaces where children go. pnwmom Mar 2014 #56
This is such crap! MsPithy Mar 2014 #52
"And, you expect us to believe that in 6 months and one day Squinch Mar 2014 #54
It's in a public space where that woman is being tortured as well. Just not here. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #14
On the other hand, you could be thankful you live in a part of the world where you don't.... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #16
If you have never understood that, then I'm glad you're not a parent. pnwmom Mar 2014 #24
Well, first of all, bollocks....and secondly A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #28
That depends on the contents of the poster and the age and sensitivity of the child. pnwmom Mar 2014 #30
discuss it with a freaked out 3 year old. good luck. elehhhhna Mar 2014 #32
"You would suck at that" A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #51
it was a bold way of expressing that elehhhhna Mar 2014 #62
It was an insult, plain and simple A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #63
I'm with you! MsPithy Mar 2014 #50
Spot on Agony Mar 2014 #47
if we protest the dismembered barbie doll pics from anti abortion freaks dembotoz Mar 2014 #18
Thank you I was just going to say that! elehhhhna Mar 2014 #22
This was my first thought as well. n/t ChazII Mar 2014 #35
And that, quite ironically, is rather the first world problem you have there... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #19
And? elehhhhna Mar 2014 #33
I guess you're happy that she wasn't around when Clinton & Monica was on the news. L0oniX Mar 2014 #20
you can turn off the tv elehhhhna Mar 2014 #23
What about about the 6 year old little boy/soldier *carrying* the gun. myrna minx Mar 2014 #21
NO kidding. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #27
yeah. the guy fixing to stab the woman? no biggie. elehhhhna Mar 2014 #34
Not compared to a child actually witnessing it in his own family. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #64
Why not be glad that you have to explain it and it is not a part of their every day life now. It Vincardog Mar 2014 #25
Millions of children see graphic images every day. For instance, this: Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #29
Yup. MsPithy Mar 2014 #44
Part of being a parent is being able to explain tough things in a developmentally appropriate way. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #36
Could not agree more. MsPithy Mar 2014 #46
Did they go photograph each location? hootinholler Mar 2014 #4
Damn that's impressive. Good work on someone's part. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #5
Excellent … a real award-winning idea. Auggie Mar 2014 #6
Amnesty International Madam Mossfern Mar 2014 #7
Get the message out. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #9
Wow! zappaman Mar 2014 #12
An irrelevant question about the last photo. Jim Lane Mar 2014 #15
Looks like a different guy to me. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #17
Coincidence Calista241 Mar 2014 #41
 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
8. Yeah, I want to explain this shit to my 6 year old
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:23 PM
Mar 2014

Sorry folks but this in a public space which is unavoidable if you use public transport with your kids is just not cool.

Wounded Bear

(58,620 posts)
10. Ah, geez...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:51 PM
Mar 2014


How about a simple, "They're telling us how people around the world are being hurt and that we should care and try to do something about it"?
 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
11. I think the idea is
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:18 PM
Mar 2014

that explaining to a 6 year old sucks a little.

But on the scale of explaining it up to experiencing it, explaining it is pretty much flat on the x axis. People are ideally going to feel more motivated to do something to stop the torture than to stop the posters.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
13. It is the perfect TEACHABLE MOMENT!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:14 PM
Mar 2014

"These pictures are really disturbing. Let's go on the internets and see what we can do to help."

That's how to raise a socially conscious, compassionate child.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
48. The "example," child is six, not three.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:18 PM
Mar 2014

The teachable moment for a three year old is different. If my three-year old showed any concern about an image on the street, I would start by asking, "What's the matter? Tell me about it." The answer might be not at all what the adult assumes about the image.

It is a huge mistake to project adult anxieties onto a 3 year-old, just like it is a mistake to dismiss their actual anxieties (monsters under the bed) because we know they are nonsensical.

This campaign might inspire help for our fellow human beings who are living these disturbing images everyday. The fact that they might force you to do actual parenting, bothers me not at all.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
55. Six? Three? Who cares? Any age small child could be walking down that street.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:59 PM
Mar 2014

I don't think "actual parenting" involves the needless exposure of small children to horrifying and violent images. "Actual parents" do what they can to prevent this.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #55)

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
31. Actually, that's how you buy yourself 6 months worth of sleepless nights as your child,
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:22 PM
Mar 2014

who is simply too young to process some images, wakes you up every night because he has had another nightmare.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
37. At that age my kid was terrified of Spiderman and anglerfish.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:19 PM
Mar 2014

We can't create a world that excludes everything that scares small children, or we'd live in sensory deprivation chambers.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
39. They need parental explanations and guidance and reassurance.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:23 PM
Mar 2014

They don't need to be reared in a rounded-cornered pastel world populated only by preschoolers and preschoolers' concerns. Nor should they.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
40. So in your opinion, this terrifying image of an impending stabbing by wierdly hooded person with
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:35 PM
Mar 2014

a long spike, against a cowering hooded and bound victim, an image situated just at your pre-schooler's eye level, is just fine for your preschooler?

Okie dokie.

And exactly what will you say to reassure and guide your preschooler as he looks at that image?

No one is talking about a rounded-cornered pastel world.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
42. It's awful because you, an adult, know the context. A child sees worse things on movie posters
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:31 PM
Mar 2014

on those same bus shelters, because they don't know which is real and which isn't.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
43. So, do you keep your kids locked in the bathroom on Halloween
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:56 PM
Mar 2014

so they will never see actual people walking around their neighborhood in a long black hooded robe, with a ginormous knife (scythe) dripping blood, aka, the grim reaper?

MsPithy

(809 posts)
49. Haven't thought up a reason why you don't protect your kids from Halloween?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:26 PM
Mar 2014

And, slasher movies will never bring attention to the desperate situations of our fellow human beings, about whom we should give a damn.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
58. My small kids had our whole house to be in before they were old enough
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:11 PM
Mar 2014

to understand about Halloween.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
57. Right. Every place that children go they should be exposed to horrifying images
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

because that's what's happening somewhere else.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
60. Stop it, right fucking now!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:27 PM
Mar 2014

There are not "horrifying images," every place that children go, and there never will be.

That is such an outlandish exaggeration it is a logical fallacy. FYI, a logical fallacy is bad.

Shame on you.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
61. You have become terribly calloused if you don't realize the violence in some of those images.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:32 PM
Mar 2014

For example, the man carrying the bloody boy in his arms.

What a shame for you.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
56. But we don't have to deliberately insert horrifying images into public spaces where children go.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:08 PM
Mar 2014

We do have that choice.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
52. This is such crap!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:49 PM
Mar 2014

If a child has nightmares every night for 6 months and states the cause is an image he/she saw, fleetingly, on the street, (not prompted by the parent) the parent should have dealt with it in an age-appropriate manner about 5 3/4 months ago. And, you expect us to believe that in 6 months and one day, the kid is miraculously all better, with the parents doing nothing?

The world is scary for kids in about a billion ways, that's why they have parents who help them deal with things they do not understand.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
54. "And, you expect us to believe that in 6 months and one day
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:57 PM
Mar 2014

the kid is miraculously all better, with the parents doing nothing?"

What the hell are you talking about?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
16. On the other hand, you could be thankful you live in a part of the world where you don't....
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:29 AM
Mar 2014

have to worry that a band of armed men would come into your neighborhood, rape then kill you and take your 6 year old off, give him a gun and tell him to shoot people. Something millions of people actually do live with.

And you could, as another poster pointed out, use it as a teaching moment.

I could never understand the need to protect a child who is capable of creating and understanding complete sentences, from the realities of the world they live in.

Every one of my nieces and nephews have told me that I was the only one that talked to them like a grownup when they were little, and they all turned out fine.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
24. If you have never understood that, then I'm glad you're not a parent.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:19 PM
Mar 2014

And I hope you learn something more about children's psychological needs before you ever become one.

Trauma in childhood can affect children for the rest of their lives. Any thoughtful parent protects their children from needless trauma. There is nothing natural about our 24 hour, all drama, news cycle. Children weren't made to be exposed to a daily parade of horrors, and sensible parents restrict their exposure to this.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
28. Well, first of all, bollocks....and secondly
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:39 PM
Mar 2014

Thanks so very much!

But if I ever do have children (VERY unlikely at my age) I'll raise them the way I see fit, but I appreciate your scolding me otherwise. On second thought, I'll come to you for advice. Yeah.

I would raise my children in such a way that they understand the world around them, are compassionate and able to think critically.

But you would probably have some issue with that as well.


BTW, seeing and discussing what a poster at a bus stop is all about can hardly qualify as "trauma".

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
30. That depends on the contents of the poster and the age and sensitivity of the child.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:58 PM
Mar 2014

Three year olds aren't short adults.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
32. discuss it with a freaked out 3 year old. good luck.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:31 PM
Mar 2014

you would suck at that


When our girls were 3 & 6 the eldest asked about Hitler. I tried to give her an age appropriate answer. An hour later the girls are being superheroes ( as ALWAYS) and I hear the big one yell "Way to go, Batman! You saved the jews!"

My 6 y/o heard about Hitler on PBS and had a vague understanding that this was a baaad person. It was hardly necessary to show the photos from Auschwitz, yes? fwiw we lost a family member in Buchenwald. I want my kids to know about the world, and history, and social justice. But a toddler shouldn't see a hooded woman threatened by a knife wielding crazyman.

cognitive reasoning etc in young kids is so quirky and undeveloped. trying to explain abortion, torture, kinky sex, and much more is a minefield. topics need to be addressed at age appropriate times, in increasing depth, over time.

Shock photos like that in public are just not okay.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
51. "You would suck at that"
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:31 PM
Mar 2014

Really? What brings you to that conclusion?

Never mind, I don't want to know. You would suck at telling me. Or at least I am guessing you would.

It's clear you do not know me personally. Kindly refrain from claiming to understand how I would conduct myself in such private circumstances.

You really suck at it. That's my guess.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
62. it was a bold way of expressing that
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:56 PM
Mar 2014


you, like everybody ever, would suck at it

sorry it felt harsh

we do suck at it, though



Agony

(2,605 posts)
47. Spot on
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:11 PM
Mar 2014

being able to talk to your child about an encountered disturbing reality so that it does not become a traumatic experience is what makes a good parent.

dembotoz

(16,797 posts)
18. if we protest the dismembered barbie doll pics from anti abortion freaks
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:31 AM
Mar 2014

we also have to admit a bit of sensitivity when the shoe is on the other foot.

elehhhhna --i agree with you on this

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. And that, quite ironically, is rather the first world problem you have there...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:36 AM
Mar 2014

And that, quite ironically, is rather the first world problem you have there...

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
20. I guess you're happy that she wasn't around when Clinton & Monica was on the news.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:22 AM
Mar 2014

I know I would not want to explain. I suppose there are worse things but fortunately they don't allow pictures of our dead soldiers caskets coming home. I feel for ya ...and things like this make me satisfied with my choice to not have children.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
23. you can turn off the tv
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:11 PM
Mar 2014


is du going to argue that parents should not edit the media their kids are exposed to based on the childs age and level of comprehension? Really? Fine. Let's show the congo rape video at the bus stop, too.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
21. What about about the 6 year old little boy/soldier *carrying* the gun.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:32 AM
Mar 2014

Last edited Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

That's the point of the campaign.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
27. NO kidding.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:37 PM
Mar 2014

I'd have no problem with my kids seeing these ads. It's not like it shows gore or anything. An age appropriate explanation should suffice. Too many people try to shield their kids from what really happens in the world today, then we wonder why so many kids are clueless when they grow up.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
25. Why not be glad that you have to explain it and it is not a part of their every day life now. It
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:20 PM
Mar 2014

is sad to have to explain the big bad world to your little bundle of joy.
If you can't handle it phone a friend.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
36. Part of being a parent is being able to explain tough things in a developmentally appropriate way.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:16 PM
Mar 2014

"What's that about?"

"It's a poster explaining that people are sometimes treated badly in very far away countries and asking us to help them."

Nobody's going to create a carefully curated world full of things that are only developmentally appropriate for whatever age your child happens to be at the moment. And they shouldn't. Your job is to help your child navigate the world as it is.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
46. Could not agree more.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:03 PM
Mar 2014

The world is not age-appropriate for a three year old. That's why they have parents.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
7. Amnesty International
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:42 PM
Mar 2014

is one of the causes that I did not cut out when I had to cut back on my donations. I'm a Partner for Peace and proud of it, and proud of Amnesty International's cause and actions. This is a great campaign.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. An irrelevant question about the last photo.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:16 AM
Mar 2014

To the right of the bus stop, one person on the sidewalk is an overweight balding man in a light blue shirt and a gray jacket, walking toward the camera.

Now look at Amnesty's image. Along the right-hand side you can see what looks a lot like the same guy.

Is this just a wild coincidence? Maybe that guy walks this block every day en route to work, and when they took the photo that they'd be editing he was in it, and days later when they took the photo to show the results of their work he happened to be on the same sidewalk, just 15 meters further along. And he always wears that gray jacket.

Please, no one tell me I'm missing the point of the campaign. I know the point of the campaign is much more important. I just can't help wondering about this very minor point.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
17. Looks like a different guy to me.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:31 AM
Mar 2014

The guy walking has bushy hair at the side of his head. The guy in the bus stop photo does not.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
41. Coincidence
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:41 PM
Mar 2014

I would think it's coincidence because if it was some type of camera system, you'd see the trains from the main background. No trains are on the poster.

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