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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:29 PM Mar 2014

Hobby Lobby Thinks IUDs Are Like Abortions

The next big Obamacare battle hinges partly on an inch-long piece of plastic wrapped in copper. Later this month the Supreme Court will decide whether companies—in this case, the Pennsylvania cabinet-maker Conestoga Wood and the Christian crafts chain Hobby Lobby—can deny insurance coverage for certain forms of birth control, a provision mandated by the Affordable Care Act, on religious grounds.

This case has gotten a bit confusing because Hobby Lobby already covers 16 types of birth control, including birth control pills. The company’s resistance is specifically to two types of emergency “morning after pills”—Plan B and Ella—as well as a more long-term form of birth control, a T-shaped widget known as a intrauterine device, or IUD.

There are two major types of IUDs: hormonal and copper. Both kinds work by making it harder for the sperm to reach the egg (more on this later), and they are very effective—only about one woman out of 100 will get pregnant with one. IUDs are the most common form of birth control worldwide, but only about 8.5 percent of American women use them.

Hobby Lobby claims that IUDs and morning-after pills are more like abortifacients, meaning they kill fertilized embryos, than they are like contraceptives. And their reasoning rests on the fact that, with the exception of condoms, we don’t know exactly how most forms of birth control work, every time they work.

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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/heres-why-hobby-lobby-thinks-iuds-are-like-abortions/284382/

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Warpy

(111,106 posts)
1. Well, this is what happens when you listen to preachers instead of doctors and pharmacologists
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:33 PM
Mar 2014

you tend to get everything wrong and look like an arse.

In any case, they don't get to dictate anybody's private life. Religious rights belong to individuals, not companies trying to get cheaper insurance by copping the religious nanny attitude.

Arkansas Granny

(31,502 posts)
3. I don't know why they assume that every fertilized egg is sacred anyway.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:46 PM
Mar 2014

From research I've done online, estimates are that 50% or more of fertilized eggs never implant and therefore never even make it to embryo status. So, if god is that concerned about these little specks, why does he allow so many of them to be lost, many times before a woman even realized that she is pregnant? Does that make god the biggest abortion provider of all time?

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
5. When God does it, it is sanctified and blessed.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

If you do it, you are a vicious baby-killer with no morals.



Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
4. Well, I don't know how well they're doing elsewhere
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

but the one Hobby Lobby we have here (actually, it's 45 minutes south of here) is about to close down only a few years after opening. Seems there isn't enough business to keep it going. Pardon me while I play a little tune -

ramblin_dave

(1,546 posts)
6. Sometimes an IUD is an abortifacient
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:53 PM
Mar 2014

According to this wikipedia article...

The very high effectiveness of copper-releasing IUDs as emergency contraceptives implies they may also act by preventing implantation of the blastocyst. In non-emergency use, prevention of implantation is at most an exceptional method of action, not a typical mechanism of action.

In non-emergency use (long term) the IUD is mainly a contraceptive, rarely does it act after conception to prevent implantation. In emergency use, the prevention of implantation may be greater. So the fact that in can act as an abortifacient could be sufficient for those opposed to abortion to object to their use.

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