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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:17 AM Mar 2014

Paul Ryan to meet black U.S. lawmakers after 'offensive' remarks

(Reuters) - Republican Representative Paul Ryan on Friday agreed to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus after members of the group branded his remarks about inner-city poverty this week "highly offensive".

The controversy began on Wednesday after Ryan said on William Bennett's talk radio show, "Morning in America," that there was a "tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value of work."

Representative Barbara Lee of California, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, called Ryan's remarks a "thinly veiled racial attack."

"Let's be clear, when Mr. Ryan says 'inner city,' when he says, 'culture,' these are simply code words for what he really means: 'black'," Lee said in a statement.

Ryan, the 2012 Republican vice presidential candidate, is known for budgets with proposed deep cuts to programs that help the poor. The potential 2016 presidential contender has made a point of proposing Republican solutions to ease poverty that focus on the private sector.

The Wisconsin lawmaker, who chairs the House Budget Committee, said in a statement that he "was inarticulate" about the point he was trying to make.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/14/us-usa-fiscal-ryan-idUSBREA2D1WQ20140314


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Paul Ryan to meet black U.S. lawmakers after 'offensive' remarks (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 OP
gawd that f***ing ASSHOLE Ryan - THE NERVE Skittles Mar 2014 #1
Ryan should admit what he said and not backtrack DFW Mar 2014 #2
Au contraire, Mr, Ryan eShirl Mar 2014 #3
what is it with repukes and the word "articulate"? CTyankee Mar 2014 #8
They certainly... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #33
I don't know what good it will do but I'm glad the CBC is calling him on his ugly racist lies.. Cha Mar 2014 #4
Maybe someone should exboyfil Mar 2014 #5
that is an eye-opener, exboyfil. brer cat Mar 2014 #6
I grew up in Janesville. I can attest that during my time there myrna minx Mar 2014 #14
My wife grew up in a town in Iowa similar to exboyfil Mar 2014 #25
People of many different races live in the inner city. PlanetaryOrbit Mar 2014 #7
You sound concerned. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #9
I took Ryan's statement as racist and also Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #12
Keep Telling Yourself That HangOnKids Mar 2014 #10
"inner city" is a replacement phrase for Welfare Queen. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #19
Lets be very, very generous, and say you're naive HERVEPA Mar 2014 #28
Apologia. Feral Child Mar 2014 #31
It will be a waste of time. Paul Ryan is a phony. And a filthy racist. AlinPA Mar 2014 #11
Yep - he'll check the "apology" box and hurry back to address the mouth-breathers hatrack Mar 2014 #23
"Inner city" has been a dog whistle for black rurallib Mar 2014 #13
He's playing stupid ... hoping that he'll get a pass, because he actually is stupid. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #20
frankly he's way more sheltered than any Romney or Cruz MisterP Mar 2014 #34
"He was inarticulate" means he didn't state it carefully enough to make it gollygee Mar 2014 #15
That's interesting LibertyLover Mar 2014 #30
Don't legitimize the fuck. LuvLoogie Mar 2014 #16
Watch him lie and mischaracterize the meeting jsr Mar 2014 #17
He once met MLK jr on one the mountain tops Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #18
Ryan WILL lie. CBC should record the meeting. jsr Mar 2014 #29
I'm sure he'll find a way to wink to his audience while doing it JHB Mar 2014 #21
Keep digging, asshole, keep digging! hatrack Mar 2014 #22
At the risk of being flamed: long term economic problems lead to unemployment and poverty. It has jwirr Mar 2014 #24
Hey, CBC, tear Ryan a brand new asshole, OK? DinahMoeHum Mar 2014 #26
The Wisconsin lawmaker, said in a statement that he "was inarticulate." Botany Mar 2014 #27
born and raised in wisconsin--milwaukee north side--i understood exactly what he meant dembotoz Mar 2014 #32
When.. butterfly77 Mar 2014 #35

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
1. gawd that f***ing ASSHOLE Ryan - THE NERVE
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:20 AM
Mar 2014

the rich corporate assholes who are F***ING THE AMERICAN WORKER are the people who DON'T VALUE HARD WORK

DFW

(54,338 posts)
2. Ryan should admit what he said and not backtrack
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:34 AM
Mar 2014

What he meant was "black," and both those who cheer him on and those who think he's a racist asshole know it.

Everyone knows what he said. Everyone knows what he meant. He won't fool anyone by backtracking. Why bother?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
8. what is it with repukes and the word "articulate"?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:37 AM
Mar 2014

Romney said the same thing about his 47% remarks that bartender secretly recorded. Do they really think we're that stupid?

Cha

(297,132 posts)
4. I don't know what good it will do but I'm glad the CBC is calling him on his ugly racist lies..
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:46 AM
Mar 2014
Now How's That For A Dog Whistle?




, [font size=lg]STUPID!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024661378

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
5. Maybe someone should
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:46 AM
Mar 2014

ask Ryan about the Sundown Town status of his home Janesville. Maybe that might have something to do with the higher poverty rate of blacks.

http://sundown.afro.illinois.edu/sundowntownsshow.php?id=2047

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
14. I grew up in Janesville. I can attest that during my time there
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:06 AM
Mar 2014

(1972-1989) there were very few people of color and even fewer who attended HS with Paul Ryan. I didn't realize Janesville was a "sun down town" by design, but in hindsight, it makes perfect sense. Of the few people of color in town was Jimmy the bus driver - who lived in Beloit but drove the bus in Janesville, an African American police officer and a family of color from England. That's how white Janesville was when I lived there. It breaks my heart to open my eyes and realize it was completely by design, though. Thanks for posting the link. I have a lot to think about today.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
25. My wife grew up in a town in Iowa similar to
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:48 AM
Mar 2014

Janesville. We raised our kids here as well. My daughters have no African American friends, but they do have friends whose family's come from Asia and the Middle East. I went to a high school in Mississippi that had been recently integrated (1978-1981). The school was 30-40% African American. I think it was a richer experience, but even still my higher level college prep classes were not representative of the student body as a whole. For example out of 20+ students in my Honors Chemistry class only two were African American. One went on to be a doctor like his father. The other, who was in ROTC with me, died at a young age of a heart ailment (a real loss he was a great guy).

I am not sure what individuals like us can do to make the world a more diverse place. My children have been taught to always respect everyone and be fair. They just don't have opportunities to interact with African Americans. My oldest is heading off to a college with a 2.5% African American enrollment.

PlanetaryOrbit

(155 posts)
7. People of many different races live in the inner city.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:36 AM
Mar 2014

African-American, Hispanic, white, Asian, etc.

I don't think this can be inferred as an anti-black statement just from that alone.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
19. "inner city" is a replacement phrase for Welfare Queen.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:17 AM
Mar 2014

Racists use code words so that they can act stupid about it afterwards to claim they didn't mean it that way.

They think that strategy works because they know, that the rest of us know, that they are in fact stupid.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
31. Apologia.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:09 AM
Mar 2014

Please do not pretend to misinterpret Ryan's statement, it's disingenuous. Ryan thinks all segments you mentioned, save the one not capitalized, are "colored"; hence, sub-human.

Also, don't excuse racist assholes, lest it's "inferred" you agree with them.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
13. "Inner city" has been a dog whistle for black
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:46 AM
Mar 2014

since I was a pup. I am pretty sure I used to hear some variation of inner city back in the 60s.
If Ryan claims he does not know this, he certainly has lived a sheltered life. Or he is lying.

Given his track record on the campaign trail in 2012 (another day, another lie) I think we can safely assume he was lying. It is a way of life with Republicans.

Will he apologize and actually show remorse? Hell to the No! Will he blame the black caucus for being to sensitive? Of course!

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
20. He's playing stupid ... hoping that he'll get a pass, because he actually is stupid.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:18 AM
Mar 2014

Just not about this.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
34. frankly he's way more sheltered than any Romney or Cruz
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:55 PM
Mar 2014

but the guys in "Blazing Saddles" weren't saying "the Sheriff is near"...

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
15. "He was inarticulate" means he didn't state it carefully enough to make it
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:11 AM
Mar 2014

an affective dogwhistle.

BTW as an aside, the word "maroon" has a racial history too! I thought you might be interested given the thread this is in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroon_(people) I know because my high school's mascot was "The Maroons" at one point but was changed because the name and logo (of an escaped slave) were obviously inappropriate.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
30. That's interesting
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:09 AM
Mar 2014

I went to the University of Chicago were our school colors were white and maroon, the school paper was The Maroon and sports teams were the Maroons. But our mascot was a phoenix. Perhaps it was Fawkes on one of his better days.

LuvLoogie

(6,991 posts)
16. Don't legitimize the fuck.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:11 AM
Mar 2014

No meeting. Let him take his pampered ass and go door knocking in the inner city.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
21. I'm sure he'll find a way to wink to his audience while doing it
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:22 AM
Mar 2014

His real audience, that is. The people he was dog-whistling to.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. At the risk of being flamed: long term economic problems lead to unemployment and poverty. It has
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:42 AM
Mar 2014

nothing to do with color or even where you live. It has to do with economic neglect.

It can be seen wherever there is long term unemployment and the outsourcing of jobs to other areas. I remember reading a book about unemployment in the inner cities that talked about the era when jobs were outsourced to the suburbs leaving many unemployed because they could not relocate with the jobs. The businesses left because the infrastructure of the inner city was old and it was cheaper to relocate than rebuild. In later years we have seen those same jobs continue to follow the cheap labor market around the world leaving areas of devastation behind.

People like Ryan who think the corporate world can do no wrong do not see it that way. Those of us who are the victims of this kind of cheap labor market do.

Botany

(70,489 posts)
27. The Wisconsin lawmaker, said in a statement that he "was inarticulate."
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:55 AM
Mar 2014

Last edited Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Don't spread bull shit on toast and tell me to eat it up because it is just
"country style apple butter."

IOTW Ryan really wanted to call them n****rs.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
32. born and raised in wisconsin--milwaukee north side--i understood exactly what he meant
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:10 AM
Mar 2014

the man is obviously a bigot






but he will be re elected because wisconsin votes for bigots

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