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Eric placeHolder. That's what we should call him. (Original Post) elehhhhna Mar 2014 OP
Let me guess--you're not a black person whose right to vote is being threatened? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #1
"bad on some issues" is an understatement. Wilms Mar 2014 #3
Good on Civil Rights issues and terrible on anything cali Mar 2014 #8
So your rationalization is that "he's bad on some issues" because of "job description rhett o rick Mar 2014 #20
+1,000 Scuba Mar 2014 #25
Defended and protected the Corporate Ethos of profits ueber Alles. Octafish Mar 2014 #2
Your Meme Generator needs a spellcheck. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #5
Ain't that the truth? Mental masturbation. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #6
Stress relief? Fourth Reich and you don't notice? Octafish Mar 2014 #11
Lol. Like I said... functioning_cog Mar 2014 #13
Nothing to say about the topic, oh profound one? Octafish Mar 2014 #15
I did my job. We elected and reelected a Dem who has functioning_cog Mar 2014 #19
Great. Social policies improved. What about Justice? Octafish Mar 2014 #22
+1,000 Scuba Mar 2014 #26
*Crickets* Rex Mar 2014 #35
Now, now, Octafish... give credit where credit is due. bvar22 Mar 2014 #39
That's a low bar. He failed to do so much that he could have done. cui bono Mar 2014 #28
"Done more to advance interests of poor than any president since Johnson." bvar22 Mar 2014 #40
Groupthink? Octafish Mar 2014 #12
Not really. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #18
Now I understand you. Octafish Mar 2014 #23
I'm stealing this. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #4
Here comes another one. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #7
Yeah. We're called 'DUers'. Octafish Mar 2014 #14
The OP did not provide an actual argument functioning_cog Mar 2014 #17
Six years in office and warmongers Bush and Cheney are free. Octafish Mar 2014 #24
*Crickets* Rex Mar 2014 #31
"first African American A.G." cui bono Mar 2014 #30
Desperation. Rex Mar 2014 #32
yes, a longtime dedicated bigtime contributor to DU elehhhhna Mar 2014 #16
Oh, BTW. Really nice contribution with that OP. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #21
Thanks! I'm humbled. Been a fan of your on DU for a long time. elehhhhna Mar 2014 #38
Yeah the new guy sure pretends to be an old hand. Rex Mar 2014 #33
You can ProSense Mar 2014 #9
yeah, he's a gun banner. aikoaiko Mar 2014 #10
LOL! THAT'S ALMOST AS GOOD AS NOBAMA! Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #27
He has been horrible, just a smidgen better than Ashcroft quinnox Mar 2014 #29
"Most progressives I have seen here think the same." ProSense Mar 2014 #36
Yes, he said "progressives". Progressives want a POTUS who will stand up for the working people. cui bono Mar 2014 #41
Well let's face it, there is only a handful of people here that Rex Mar 2014 #37
True that. Rex Mar 2014 #34
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Let me guess--you're not a black person whose right to vote is being threatened?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:25 AM
Mar 2014

Or someone who was helped by the stand on DOMA?

Or someone with loved ones in prison due to discriminatory drug laws?

he's bad on some issues, but a law enforcement officer is always going to be shitty on some issues due to the job description and constraints

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
3. "bad on some issues" is an understatement.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:01 AM
Mar 2014

But you are right about Voting Rights (particularly pleasing because Dems had not been on top of this important issue. And yes, drug sentencing.

Beyond that I'm not aware of anything except what the OP said; "waste", and what Octafish mentioned.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. Good on Civil Rights issues and terrible on anything
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:52 AM
Mar 2014

outside of that sphere.

would it have been impossible to appoint someone who didn't suck ass on a host of critical issues?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. So your rationalization is that "he's bad on some issues" because of "job description
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:32 PM
Mar 2014

and constraints." What constraints force him to be tough on marijuana users and easy on Wall F'in Street? His work for the DoJ then Wall Street then back to the DoJ epitomizes the revolving door. Any bets on which Wall Street firm he will go to work for after this?
IMO he is a corporatist toady.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. Defended and protected the Corporate Ethos of profits ueber Alles.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:31 AM
Mar 2014

Worked wonders for the national security state, secret government and the Unitary Executive, too.

His successor will thank him for his proud service to Empire.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
5. Your Meme Generator needs a spellcheck.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:46 AM
Mar 2014

The Groupthink Module, however, is churning out some boffo sloganeering.

 

functioning_cog

(294 posts)
6. Ain't that the truth? Mental masturbation.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:50 AM
Mar 2014

Some people have some pretty sad personal circumstances, I am sure. Maybe this is their stress relief.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. Nothing to say about the topic, oh profound one?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:23 PM
Mar 2014

Country is in deep shit and people like you do all you can to divert its discussion, let alone resolution. Like I said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022895695

 

functioning_cog

(294 posts)
19. I did my job. We elected and reelected a Dem who has
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:32 PM
Mar 2014

Done more to advance interests of poor than any president since Johnson.

Now we're talking up 2014 and doing what we can in house/senate. You're still stuck in the 60's and JFK.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. Great. Social policies improved. What about Justice?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:43 PM
Mar 2014

Which is the point of the OP. Holder has let the Bush traitors walk, let the election stealers walk, let the warmongers walk, let the illegal domestic spy apparatus remain in place, let the torturers walk, let thebanksters walk, enforces a Wall Street casino backed by taxpayers, guards the overseas privacy of American tax dodgers (individuals and corporations), and instituted a legal system in service of the state over the individual.

Oh. What happened in Dallas 50 years ago has everything to do with it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4176797

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
39. Now, now, Octafish... give credit where credit is due.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:03 PM
Mar 2014

Holder's tireless efforts has saved us from the scourge of aging Hippie Pot Smokers,
and helped out the Private Prison Industry which [trickles Down on all of us!

Add that to the Accomplishments List.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
28. That's a low bar. He failed to do so much that he could have done.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:26 PM
Mar 2014

Have you seen the results of the Korean Free Trade? You know about TPP? What about the KXL pipeline? Whistle blower prosecutions way up under Obama. Wall Street got a seat in the White House. Monsanto got a seat in the EPA.

We needed someone to turn around this country but Obama has mostly continued BushCo/corporate policies while throwing us a couple bones. Some of which he was pushed to do so.

Yes, that is a very low bar you've set to be satisfied with. It's complacency like that that allows the Dem party to continue moving farther and farther to the right.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
40. "Done more to advance interests of poor than any president since Johnson."
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:08 PM
Mar 2014

You may be right,
but that says more about the state of our Nation
and the continual downward slide under Republicans and Democrats alike since LBJ.

All Obama had to do was let a few crumbs fall off the table while serving up heaping banquet gourmet dishes to the RICH to make your statement true,
and that is about the extent of Obama's "interests" in America's Poor.


You will know them by their WORKS.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. Yeah. We're called 'DUers'.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:20 PM
Mar 2014

And we're entitled to an opinion without bullying by the likes of spammers like you.

If it weren't so, you'd express why you disagree instead of attacking the person.

 

functioning_cog

(294 posts)
17. The OP did not provide an actual argument
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:29 PM
Mar 2014

Just empty name calling of an Obama appointment and first African American A.G. It and any propinvents of such so-called political observation should be mocked.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Six years in office and warmongers Bush and Cheney are free.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:53 PM
Mar 2014

Meanwhile, Don Siegelman remains railroaded and imprisoned.

Here's how BFEE ties it together:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022073759

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. You can
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:54 AM
Mar 2014

"Eric placeHolder. That's what we should call him. What a waste."

...call him that. I'll call him one of the best AGs ever.

That hopey changey thing at the Department of Justice
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022933401

ACLU: How to Process Eric Holder’s Major Criminal Law Reform Speech
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023451453

Holder Endorses Proposed Reduction of Drug Sentences
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024657090

Eric Holder Just ANNOUNCED A MAJOR SHIFT On U.S. Marijuana Policy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024381108

He also made Issa cry: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022850356

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
29. He has been horrible, just a smidgen better than Ashcroft
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:29 PM
Mar 2014

Most progressives I have seen here think the same.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
36. "Most progressives I have seen here think the same."
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:38 PM
Mar 2014

Those are the same people who think Obama is worse than Nixon and Reagan, and that Putin's illegal invasion is justified.

So there is that.




cui bono

(19,926 posts)
41. Yes, he said "progressives". Progressives want a POTUS who will stand up for the working people.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:56 PM
Mar 2014

Who will fight for their constitutional rights. Who will not keep signing more free trade agreements that hurt American citizens. Who will be transparent, as he promised he would be. and a bunch of other principles that progressives stand for that he does not. We don't want a POTUS who is center.

The corporate Dems might like that Obama is center on the political spectrum and defend him for it but the Dems who actually stand by their principles and all the things the Dem Party is supposedly about do not.

And trying to define progressives as Putin lovers is really low and childish. We've been down that road already and it's tired and worn out. Not to mention it's right out of the RW playbook.

So there is that.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
37. Well let's face it, there is only a handful of people here that
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:42 PM
Mar 2014

spout propaganda all day and they are easily avoided and laughed at by the masses.

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