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William769

(55,144 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:39 PM Mar 2014

Evangelist Franklin Graham: Putin is better on gay issues than Obama

Evangelist Franklin Graham is praising Russian President Vladimir Putin for his aggressive crackdown on homosexuality, saying his record on protecting children from gay “propaganda” is better than President Obama’s “shameful” embrace of gay rights.

Graham, who now heads the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association started by his famous father, praises Putin in the March issue of the group’s Decision magazine for signing a bill that imposes fines for adults who promote “propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations to minors.”

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/03/evangelist-franklin-graham-putin-is-better-on-gay-issues-than-obama/

He must be on RT's payroll now.

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Evangelist Franklin Graham: Putin is better on gay issues than Obama (Original Post) William769 Mar 2014 OP
Disgusting OKNancy Mar 2014 #1
he doesn't need to be on the payroll, they just happen to have the same views JI7 Mar 2014 #2
Franklin Graham is a disgrace to Christianity! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3
Agreed. William769 Mar 2014 #5
Very nice tunes. I never heard of Marsha Stevens. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #9
She literally changed my life. William769 Mar 2014 #12
IMO, Franklin Graham is representative of a lot of Christianity...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #20
The Evangelical wing yes. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #21
He certainly Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #29
Even my own conservative family members are horrified by what Putin's been doing..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #40
That's good to hear when people aren't fooled by Putin's disgusting Cha Mar 2014 #63
Franklin sure does not measure up to his parents, disappointing. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #57
Well, there ya have it...I mean, it's not like we didn't know that Pootie is the darling of the MADem Mar 2014 #4
No need to cough. William769 Mar 2014 #8
These homophobes hate gays more than they love our country Gothmog Mar 2014 #6
They claim to love America but hate everything it stands for. William769 Mar 2014 #7
Well, go pack your bags, homophobic piece of shit. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #10
I'm not going to type the first two words of my response to Graham, but the rest of my response is stevenleser Mar 2014 #11
message received. William769 Mar 2014 #13
+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #30
And here's another witness! nt MADem Mar 2014 #38
Makes me hope there really is a fiery Hell. JohnnyLib2 Mar 2014 #14
He should try living over there shenmue Mar 2014 #15
Sounds like the warped logic of some DUers, sad to say. randome Mar 2014 #16
What does that mean? Boomerproud Mar 2014 #19
Bleh. Tired. Forget it. randome Mar 2014 #23
it probably means he is a closet case putitinD Mar 2014 #28
Not a closet case. But my father is gay so...watch it! randome Mar 2014 #34
I meant Graham, sorry putitinD Mar 2014 #53
What exactly do you mean by that? nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #45
I meant graham, homophobes are usually just closet cases putitinD Mar 2014 #54
Oh, okay... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #59
Don't worry the message has been received. William769 Mar 2014 #47
I'm willing to chip in on a one way ticket. Thor_MN Mar 2014 #17
What a terrible, evil little man. I want to vomit. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #18
Evangelicals are not Christians. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #22
I call them "pseudo-Christians". Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #31
They pick and choose what they wish to follow from the bible. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #32
Sure they are. They're asshole Christians, but they're still Christians...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #33
How disgusting, but what I expect out of a fundamentalist leader. Rex Mar 2014 #24
What we need to do every time a R-winger praises Putin, kentauros Mar 2014 #25
So leave BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #26
hey franklin, take your flock to russia spanone Mar 2014 #27
RW Putin fans need no payroll cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #35
Beating, kidnapping, humiliating and possible murder is sooooo great sakabatou Mar 2014 #36
He's an "evangelist" or just the parasite spawn of *whomever* & a forever addict n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #37
Fuck you, Frank Graham, and your cheerleading for Putin. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #39
Graham has many who agree with him who aren't RW nut-jobs. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #41
The Puntinista's! William769 Mar 2014 #42
Tell me you're kidding. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #46
Not even, though I will say it was only 3 posters. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #48
I hope they aren't old timers... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #52
He meant "better" from the perspective of someone who wants homosexuals persecuted. MNBrewer Mar 2014 #71
Gawd.. he's ugly. All that self rightgeous holier than shit he spews.. Cha Mar 2014 #43
Dupes for Putin. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #56
"The Pathetic Lives of Putin’s American Dupes" Cha Mar 2014 #60
Franklin Graham is a bigot. Disgusting. Initech Mar 2014 #44
Franklin Graham's boyfriend really needs to stop standing him up jmowreader Mar 2014 #49
Putin is better on gay issues than Franklin Graham... johnnypneumatic Mar 2014 #50
These guys just love to spread flames of hatred for profit! Well fuck them, I'm tired of RKP5637 Mar 2014 #51
JUST another hater... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #55
I Cordially Invite Franklin Graham to go and Proselytize in Saudi Arabia Wolf Frankula Mar 2014 #58
Then perhaps that POS should emigrate catbyte Mar 2014 #61
I'm clearly a bit of an optimist mythology Mar 2014 #62
Total Acceptance will take time fadedrose Mar 2014 #64
Hateful, fear-mongering charlatan. (nt) Heidi Mar 2014 #65
I just saw this thread and I'm NOT surprised, but I AM disgusted. K&R&T. n/t jenmito Mar 2014 #66
Kick.. EVangelist Franklin Graham: Putin is better on gay issues than Obama. Cha Mar 2014 #67
Kick Cha Mar 2014 #68
Hey Franklin.....go move there! I'm sure Pootie would welcome you with open arms. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #69
Oh ffs! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #70
The Man-crush On Putin line is over there, Franklin. Paladin Mar 2014 #72

JI7

(89,244 posts)
2. he doesn't need to be on the payroll, they just happen to have the same views
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:42 PM
Mar 2014

for some having a good record on gays means denying them rights, treating them like crap including imprisoning and death.

William769

(55,144 posts)
12. She literally changed my life.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:56 PM
Mar 2014

She doesn't tour as much as she use to. Her and her partner are fabulous ladies!

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
40. Even my own conservative family members are horrified by what Putin's been doing.....
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

Not just to the Ukrainian people but LGBTs in Russia, too.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Well, there ya have it...I mean, it's not like we didn't know that Pootie is the darling of the
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:45 PM
Mar 2014

wingnuts...

But now we have a more robust idea as to the cough-quality-cough of his admirers.

Ugh.

Gothmog

(145,063 posts)
6. These homophobes hate gays more than they love our country
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:46 PM
Mar 2014

These homophobes are not just sick but they hate America

William769

(55,144 posts)
7. They claim to love America but hate everything it stands for.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:49 PM
Mar 2014

Hey! That sounds like the republican party also.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. I'm not going to type the first two words of my response to Graham, but the rest of my response is
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:55 PM
Mar 2014

"and the horse you rode in on"

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Sounds like the warped logic of some DUers, sad to say.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:21 PM
Mar 2014

Anything for a bash.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. Bleh. Tired. Forget it.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:35 PM
Mar 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
34. Not a closet case. But my father is gay so...watch it!
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:23 PM
Mar 2014


Or did you mean Graham? I need to sleep.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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William769

(55,144 posts)
47. Don't worry the message has been received.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:42 PM
Mar 2014

Some people are just pissed that you had the balls to say it.

Good job!

sheshe2

(83,710 posts)
22. Evangelicals are not Christians.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:33 PM
Mar 2014

They are holier than thou, bigoted blind men that preach hate and intolerance.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
31. I call them "pseudo-Christians".
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:05 PM
Mar 2014

They consider themselves Christians and maybe also attend services regularly, but they do a horrible job at following the teachings. A person like Obama is more of a true Christian than any of those RW evangelicals will ever be. They do not represent all Christians, or even close to that, and are just a disgrace.

sheshe2

(83,710 posts)
32. They pick and choose what they wish to follow from the bible.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:16 PM
Mar 2014

I doubt any of them have really sat down to read it or for that matter understand it.

Yes, you are right they are not Christians Jamaal. Sad that.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. How disgusting, but what I expect out of a fundamentalist leader.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:42 PM
Mar 2014

Their hatred over peoples freedoms are as bad as any dictator found on the planet.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
25. What we need to do every time a R-winger praises Putin,
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:12 PM
Mar 2014

is to tell them flat out to pack their bags and move to Russia! If they love him so much, I'm sure he'd love to have them, especially working in his growing Ministry of Truth.

We must be vigilant in this, or they'll shrug it off. Keep pestering them to move to Russia until they shut about about his greatness.

Behind the Aegis

(53,936 posts)
41. Graham has many who agree with him who aren't RW nut-jobs.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:26 PM
Mar 2014


I heard a similar argument here. Russia is better on GLBT issues than the US.

Behind the Aegis

(53,936 posts)
48. Not even, though I will say it was only 3 posters.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:52 PM
Mar 2014

In the grand scheme of DU, that isn't a whole lot, but it was a bit surprising.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
52. I hope they aren't old timers...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:21 PM
Mar 2014

some people are trying very hard to make DU suck. I am even not around as much anymore.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
71. He meant "better" from the perspective of someone who wants homosexuals persecuted.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 08:23 PM
Mar 2014

Worse in this case = better for homosexuals, "better" = worse worse for homosexuals.

Cha

(297,044 posts)
43. Gawd.. he's ugly. All that self rightgeous holier than shit he spews..
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:37 PM
Mar 2014

Of course Franklin Graham "is praising Russian President Vladimir Putin for his aggressive crackdown on homosexuality, saying his record on protecting children from gay “propaganda” is better than President Obama’s “shameful” embrace of gay rights."

Putin's got his fans.. fan club right here on DU. Called.. Dupes for Putin.

Thanks for this William.. I think it really brings this whole Putin and his "traditional values-anti-Gay" crackdown in Russia into perspective.

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
49. Franklin Graham's boyfriend really needs to stop standing him up
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:55 PM
Mar 2014

Once again the extreme right goes to prove Republicans think about gay sex more than gay people ever did.

johnnypneumatic

(599 posts)
50. Putin is better on gay issues than Franklin Graham...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:12 PM
Mar 2014

Putin is better on gay issues than many republicans...
etc.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
51. These guys just love to spread flames of hatred for profit! Well fuck them, I'm tired of
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:17 PM
Mar 2014

hearing their crap. And upon what do they base their hatred, the bible, stupid, Jesus, wrong guy. Guys like this get their rocks off with hatred, that, is what it's all about. It's a hate fetish for them.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
55. JUST another hater...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:27 PM
Mar 2014

and who cares what these evangelists say, anyway? Most of them are closeted bigots who hate anything that is remotely different.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
58. I Cordially Invite Franklin Graham to go and Proselytize in Saudi Arabia
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:32 PM
Mar 2014

By himself with just a King James Bible and tracts.

Or better yet, since he is a Protestant Heretic, let's burn him at the stake for heresy here.

Wolf

catbyte

(34,360 posts)
61. Then perhaps that POS should emigrate
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:52 PM
Mar 2014

He is the living embodiment of everything I despise about religion.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
62. I'm clearly a bit of an optimist
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:04 AM
Mar 2014

I was wondering how delusional somebody would need to be in order to think that Putin was better on equality for gay people than Obama. It didn't occur to me that what me meant was that Putin's actions to set back the equality of gay people was a good thing.

Silly me.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
64. Total Acceptance will take time
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:50 AM
Mar 2014

but it will happen..... in Russia. and even America



"Give it time." It took almost forever to get more than half the public to be okay with it. The young folks who accept will be the majority in just a couple of decades, if not sooner. Gays have had it so tough for so long.

time is on your side...

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
72. The Man-crush On Putin line is over there, Franklin.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 08:31 PM
Mar 2014

Get in line with all the other right-wing douchebags. Rudy Giuliani has the sign-in sheet.
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