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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:47 AM Mar 2014

Navy SEALs 'took turns dumping HUNDREDS of bullets' into Osama bin Laden's dead body, a new report

reveals

Special operations sources have claimed that the terror leader was shot more than one hundred times in the fatal 2011 raid.

A new report from a website known within the intelligence and armed services community claims that the sheer number of times that Osama bin Laden was shot is the reason why the government has never released photos of his dead body.

Citing two confidential sources, The Special Operations Forces Situation Report tells how 'operator after operator took turns dumping magazines-worth of ammunition into Bin Laden’s body'.

The site goes on to argue that while the Navy SEALs may have felt it was 'morally, legally, and ethically appropriate to shoot the body a few times to ensure that he is really dead and no longer a threat,' that does not justify the extent of this damage.

'What happened on the Bin Laden raid is beyond excessive. The level of excess shown was not about making sure that Bin Laden was no longer a threat. The excess was pure self-indulgence,' author Jack Murphy writes.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581354/Navy-SEALs-took-turns-dumping-HUNDREDS-bullets-Osama-bin-Ladens-dead-body-new-report-reveals.html#ixzz2w68NO3xW
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Navy SEALs 'took turns dumping HUNDREDS of bullets' into Osama bin Laden's dead body, a new report (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Mar 2014 OP
Uh, huh ... 1000words Mar 2014 #1
Bullets cost money... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #2
Um, OK thank you bluestateguy Mar 2014 #3
Immature and unprofessional. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #4
I don't believe a word of that rudolph the red Mar 2014 #5
You got all of that out with a straight face, too. That was very disciplined. dogknob Mar 2014 #24
You're right, rudolph the red Mar 2014 #25
That is a very interesting response. dogknob Mar 2014 #30
Your comment implied that i was lying, then you posted a YouTube clip. rudolph the red Mar 2014 #31
That's just silly. I live in San Clemente, CA near Camp Pendleton... dogknob Mar 2014 #33
Yeah? I'm south of you about 30 miles, rudolph the red Mar 2014 #34
No point-- just snark. Desert805 Mar 2014 #57
Not believable and here's why: MidwestTransplant Mar 2014 #6
Good point. eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2014 #8
Exactly! the timeline was very strict, and "hundreds of rounds" would also make noise, plus the ID anneboleyn Mar 2014 #55
I don't believe it. demosincebirth Mar 2014 #7
"Is he dead yet?" "Nope, let's kill him some more." MrScorpio Mar 2014 #9
I always hate when the title doesn't match the article. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #10
I doubt it. PlanetaryOrbit Mar 2014 #11
+100 bullets Separation Mar 2014 #12
hahaha... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #43
Yeah, well the source of this "report" is one Jack Murphy... bluesbassman Mar 2014 #13
I heard that it was 500 guys who each fired one bullet into the corpse Orrex Mar 2014 #14
And then they lined up again to stab him with knives jsr Mar 2014 #18
I call BS on this story. SCUBANOW Mar 2014 #15
Now if they were talking about sorefeet Mar 2014 #16
Even if they did, Mugu Mar 2014 #17
Childish. jwirr Mar 2014 #19
Unsourced claptrap. MineralMan Mar 2014 #20
Why did the Daily Mail publish it? Why does FoxNews cheer for Republicans? Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #36
I call bullshit. uncommonlink Mar 2014 #21
I don't think I believe this madokie Mar 2014 #22
yeah, because it isn't like they were in a hurry to get out of pakistan or anything nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #23
what a bunch of BS. dailymail is another tabloid media similar to fox. Sunlei Mar 2014 #26
more likely bin laden knew his time was up and shot himself 500 times. unblock Mar 2014 #27
Doesn't pass the sniff test... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #28
I don't think dailymail crap 'articles' should be allowed on DU or give tabloid media their own list Sunlei Mar 2014 #29
Note - a tabloid speaking of unnamed "sources" on an unnamed website -speaking of a "report" karynnj Mar 2014 #32
Nothing like spreading some more propaganda to irritate the Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #35
That was my first thought. Ilsa Mar 2014 #37
Yeah ... consider the source, the DAILY MAIL... bobduca Mar 2014 #45
The Daily Mail has no quality control. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #38
I doubt it, there would be mush and no solid body. Rex Mar 2014 #39
I don't know about this. Mojo Electro Mar 2014 #40
I don't support the military unless they are professional and ethical LiberalFighter Mar 2014 #41
I'm pretty sure that after 100 bullets Rocknrule Mar 2014 #42
Right? WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #50
That would take probably 5 seconds to do, but this is the Daily Mail, so it probably never happened chrisa Mar 2014 #44
I would have pissed on his corpse. Throd Mar 2014 #46
Why is it that I do not buy this one? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #47
No, but they shot each of the children 100 times. undeterred Mar 2014 #48
In the middle of a hostile area with a crashed chopper after a firefight? WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #49
thats disgusting...wasting that many bullets Demonaut Mar 2014 #51
It never happened because it would have left messy evidence behind that Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #52
Boys will be boys. Did they pee on him also? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #53
Probably not true CFLDem Mar 2014 #54
I'm throwing the horsesh@t flag on this... rppper Mar 2014 #56
Conspiracy BS, IMO. Raine1967 Mar 2014 #58

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Um, OK thank you
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:52 AM
Mar 2014

Meanwhile, were still waiting on the Congress to raise the minimum wage, extend unemployment benefits and pass an immigration bill.

 

rudolph the red

(666 posts)
5. I don't believe a word of that
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:03 AM
Mar 2014

I was just a support guy in the Marines, but I worked hard supporting Force Recon and SEAL Teams and I know a lot of them very well. They are far too professional to behave that way, particularly on a mission of such great importance and visibility.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
30. That is a very interesting response.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:08 AM
Mar 2014

Since I only posted a clip of the film, with no explanation -- I certainly made no assertion that a Frank Sinatra movie has anything at all to do with reality-- you must have your own idea of why I did it.

Please share your idea with us.

 

rudolph the red

(666 posts)
31. Your comment implied that i was lying, then you posted a YouTube clip.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:12 AM
Mar 2014

Take a deep analytical look at that.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
33. That's just silly. I live in San Clemente, CA near Camp Pendleton...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:17 AM
Mar 2014

...and I get to witness firsthand the professionalism and superlative ethical and moral standards of hundreds of U.S. Marines on a daily basis -- daily meaning all day and all night. Every single day.

MidwestTransplant

(8,015 posts)
6. Not believable and here's why:
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:11 AM
Mar 2014

Aside from the fact that I doubt they operate that way, would they really hang around in hostile territory longer than necessary to line up and empty clips into a dead guy and risk being engaged by hostiles.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
55. Exactly! the timeline was very strict, and "hundreds of rounds" would also make noise, plus the ID
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

of the body still needed to be made officially. It seems unlikely that the SEAL team would have spent time doing this -- given that they needed to be in and out quickly (plus the body needed to be bagged and moved -- this is kind of macabre but given the fact that the body needed to be transported back, pumping it full of hundreds of rounds of bullets could severely compromise the integrity of the body and just make an enormous, very difficult-to-maneuver mess). The SEAL team (based on what we know) did not have time to waste in such a manner.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
9. "Is he dead yet?" "Nope, let's kill him some more."
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 03:43 AM
Mar 2014

"Is he dead yet?"

"Nope, he was twitching."

"Is dead yet…"

Separation

(1,975 posts)
12. +100 bullets
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:42 AM
Mar 2014

Is an unamed source who knows a guy that drank a bear with some guys that claimed to be SEALS.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
43. hahaha...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:57 PM
Mar 2014

Drinking a "bear" would be a very painful and difficult thing to do... you would have to be awfully drunk to do that.

bluesbassman

(19,358 posts)
13. Yeah, well the source of this "report" is one Jack Murphy...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:02 AM
Mar 2014

A former Army Ranger Spec Ops vet who now writes for sofrep.com. The article that Sgt. Murphy wrote relied on two "confidential" sources "within the community". That the Daily Mail referred to it as a "new report" is a flat out lie. At best it's hearsay.

A quick tour around sofrep.com gives a little better picture of where Sgt. Murphy and his friends are coming from. (Hint: They're not too found of President Obama. Surprise! )
http://sofrep.com/33599/why-us-govt-hasnt-released-photos-ubl-corpse/

jsr

(7,712 posts)
18. And then they lined up again to stab him with knives
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 09:08 AM
Mar 2014
"See, this is the knife I killed Osama bin Laden with," says Grandpa...
 

SCUBANOW

(92 posts)
15. I call BS on this story.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:15 AM
Mar 2014

The SEALs had more important things to do that night then standing around and shoot a dead body. They were not on the ground for very long to play these kind of games. Again I call BS.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
16. Now if they were talking about
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:54 AM
Mar 2014

any big city American police department, this story would be believable.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
20. Unsourced claptrap.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 09:47 AM
Mar 2014

Unnamed sources and an inflammatory website. Why is this even posted on DU and why did the Daily Mail publish it?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. Why did the Daily Mail publish it? Why does FoxNews cheer for Republicans?
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:33 AM
Mar 2014

It's the Daily Fail. It's a Conservative tabloid.

 

uncommonlink

(261 posts)
21. I call bullshit.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 10:10 AM
Mar 2014

Seals aren't going to stand around pumping bullet after bullet into a dead body, in hostile terrority, limited amount of ammo, possibly hostile forces enroute.
That's just not the way Seals, or for that matter, any of our Special Forces operate. They're professionals, they get the job done and get out.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. I don't think I believe this
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 10:14 AM
Mar 2014

I was a member of the SERE school where we trained the Seals and UDT in Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape back in '68 and early '69. I don't buy this at all. sorry

unblock

(52,113 posts)
27. more likely bin laden knew his time was up and shot himself 500 times.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 10:58 AM
Mar 2014

he was probably pretty sure he was dead after the first 499, but shot himself

one more time

just to be sure.

karynnj

(59,495 posts)
32. Note - a tabloid speaking of unnamed "sources" on an unnamed website -speaking of a "report"
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:15 AM
Mar 2014

Note the "report" is from the unnamed website - not any credible source. Here is a google of the name of the website and "wiki" - hoping to get a definition without going there. It looks pretty sketchy - and a source for Glenn Beck! https://www.google.com/search?q=sofrep+wiki&oq=sofrep+wiki&aqs=chrome..69i57.6987j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
35. Nothing like spreading some more propaganda to irritate the
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:26 AM
Mar 2014

Muslims into a frenzy to kill more Americans. I really think this post should be eliminated.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
37. That was my first thought.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:44 AM
Mar 2014

And let's try to mar a tactical event that that proved that PBO wasn't soft on terrorism. Plays right into RW hands to try and find fault with the operation.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
38. The Daily Mail has no quality control.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:48 AM
Mar 2014

They pretty much accept any old BS story onto their website.

That can make for interesting reading but a lot of it is planted propaganda or just irresponsible and sloppy reporting.

Mojo Electro

(362 posts)
40. I don't know about this.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:47 PM
Mar 2014

It seems to me like "hundreds" of the type of rounds fired by Navy Seals would turn the body into Hamburger Helper. Secondly. I'm sure that all the Seals were acutely aware of the importance of positive identification, and wouldn't want to be the one that jeopardized that. That, taken along with later descriptions of the body and of the burial at sea, makes this seem highly exaggerated. Maybe there was an extra few rounds to make sure he was down, but I don't know about everybody there pumping rounds into him for posterity. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Navy Seals are more disciplined than that.

LiberalFighter

(50,767 posts)
41. I don't support the military unless they are professional and ethical
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:12 PM
Mar 2014

But I will also give the military the benefit of the doubt until otherwise called for.

In this regards, there is no confirmation or reliable support for the accusations.

I wonder if the next mission for the Navy SEALS might be the Daily Mail? At least put some fear into them.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
42. I'm pretty sure that after 100 bullets
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:50 PM
Mar 2014

he'd be nothing but 170 lbs of ground chuck and there'd be no body left to dump into the ocean

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
44. That would take probably 5 seconds to do, but this is the Daily Mail, so it probably never happened
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:03 PM
Mar 2014

in the first place.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
46. I would have pissed on his corpse.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:09 PM
Mar 2014

But then again, I'm not held to the same standards as a Navy SEAL.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
49. In the middle of a hostile area with a crashed chopper after a firefight?
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:18 PM
Mar 2014

Yeah, I totally believe this.

Not.

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
52. It never happened because it would have left messy evidence behind that
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:25 PM
Mar 2014

would have been used by Al Qaeda to rile up the masses.

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
54. Probably not true
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:00 PM
Mar 2014

but it's nice to think about. Hope they took a nice steamy dump on him, too. 💩

rppper

(2,952 posts)
56. I'm throwing the horsesh@t flag on this...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:10 PM
Mar 2014

Two of the four submarines I served on were dedicated spec-ops boats...including the test bed boat for submarine/special forces ops after 1990...I'm the guy who let them in and out of the escape chambers...they would tell you some gruesome war stories, but it was all strictly line if duty stuff, not pumping 500+ additional rounds into a dead body on site. I seriously doubt they fired inside a helo or onboard an aircraft carrier with 6000 crew-members...none of the spec-ops teams, from any of the services, I ever assisted onboard showed anything but the utmost professionalism and seriousness towards their missions. The entire team probably carried just over 500 rounds between them. They're not heavily armored.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
58. Conspiracy BS, IMO.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:57 PM
Mar 2014

from your link:

A new report from a website known within the intelligence and armed services community claims that the sheer number of times that Osama bin Laden was shot is the reason why the government has never released photos of his dead body.

Citing two confidential sources, The Special Operations Forces Situation Report tells how 'operator after operator took turns dumping magazines-worth of ammunition into Bin Laden’s body'.
I find it all very skeptical.

The Special Operations Forces Situation Report page where they list the charities they support.

You'll see this:
The Glen Doherty Memorial Foundation

Glen Doherty was one of the four Americans killed in a terror attack in Benghazi, Libya on September 12, 2012. The Glen Doherty Memorial Foundation is our way to honor Glen’s life and his beliefs.



Glen believed in education, improving oneself and building skills. He believed life should be earned by hard work and hard play. Celebrate this beautiful world that we live in, recreate as much as humanly possible. Help others, and surround yourself with people that you respect who challenge you and make you a better person. Through this Foundation our goal is to pay it forward, to spread Glen’s love and passion for life to as many individuals as possible.
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