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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNavy SEALs 'took turns dumping HUNDREDS of bullets' into Osama bin Laden's dead body, a new report
reveals
Special operations sources have claimed that the terror leader was shot more than one hundred times in the fatal 2011 raid.
A new report from a website known within the intelligence and armed services community claims that the sheer number of times that Osama bin Laden was shot is the reason why the government has never released photos of his dead body.
Citing two confidential sources, The Special Operations Forces Situation Report tells how 'operator after operator took turns dumping magazines-worth of ammunition into Bin Ladens body'.
The site goes on to argue that while the Navy SEALs may have felt it was 'morally, legally, and ethically appropriate to shoot the body a few times to ensure that he is really dead and no longer a threat,' that does not justify the extent of this damage.
'What happened on the Bin Laden raid is beyond excessive. The level of excess shown was not about making sure that Bin Laden was no longer a threat. The excess was pure self-indulgence,' author Jack Murphy writes.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581354/Navy-SEALs-took-turns-dumping-HUNDREDS-bullets-Osama-bin-Ladens-dead-body-new-report-reveals.html#ixzz2w68NO3xW
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1000words
(7,051 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)I am sure the COMPANY that makes bullets were very happy.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Meanwhile, were still waiting on the Congress to raise the minimum wage, extend unemployment benefits and pass an immigration bill.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)rudolph the red
(666 posts)I was just a support guy in the Marines, but I worked hard supporting Force Recon and SEAL Teams and I know a lot of them very well. They are far too professional to behave that way, particularly on a mission of such great importance and visibility.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)rudolph the red
(666 posts)movies are much more accurate than real life.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Since I only posted a clip of the film, with no explanation -- I certainly made no assertion that a Frank Sinatra movie has anything at all to do with reality-- you must have your own idea of why I did it.
Please share your idea with us.
rudolph the red
(666 posts)Take a deep analytical look at that.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)...and I get to witness firsthand the professionalism and superlative ethical and moral standards of hundreds of U.S. Marines on a daily basis -- daily meaning all day and all night. Every single day.
rudolph the red
(666 posts)I still don't get your point, but Hi Neighbour!
Desert805
(392 posts)Hellooooo San Diego!
MidwestTransplant
(8,015 posts)Aside from the fact that I doubt they operate that way, would they really hang around in hostile territory longer than necessary to line up and empty clips into a dead guy and risk being engaged by hostiles.
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)of the body still needed to be made officially. It seems unlikely that the SEAL team would have spent time doing this -- given that they needed to be in and out quickly (plus the body needed to be bagged and moved -- this is kind of macabre but given the fact that the body needed to be transported back, pumping it full of hundreds of rounds of bullets could severely compromise the integrity of the body and just make an enormous, very difficult-to-maneuver mess). The SEAL team (based on what we know) did not have time to waste in such a manner.
demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)"Is he dead yet?"
"Nope, he was twitching."
"Is dead yet
"
Behind the Aegis
(53,919 posts)Stinky!
PlanetaryOrbit
(155 posts)They were in dangerous surroundings. They needed to conserve ammo.
Separation
(1,975 posts)Is an unamed source who knows a guy that drank a bear with some guys that claimed to be SEALS.
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)Drinking a "bear" would be a very painful and difficult thing to do... you would have to be awfully drunk to do that.
bluesbassman
(19,358 posts)A former Army Ranger Spec Ops vet who now writes for sofrep.com. The article that Sgt. Murphy wrote relied on two "confidential" sources "within the community". That the Daily Mail referred to it as a "new report" is a flat out lie. At best it's hearsay.
A quick tour around sofrep.com gives a little better picture of where Sgt. Murphy and his friends are coming from. (Hint: They're not too found of President Obama. Surprise! )
http://sofrep.com/33599/why-us-govt-hasnt-released-photos-ubl-corpse/
Orrex
(63,169 posts)True fact.
jsr
(7,712 posts)SCUBANOW
(92 posts)The SEALs had more important things to do that night then standing around and shoot a dead body. They were not on the ground for very long to play these kind of games. Again I call BS.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)any big city American police department, this story would be believable.
Mugu
(2,887 posts)I don't care.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)MineralMan
(146,248 posts)Unnamed sources and an inflammatory website. Why is this even posted on DU and why did the Daily Mail publish it?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It's the Daily Fail. It's a Conservative tabloid.
uncommonlink
(261 posts)Seals aren't going to stand around pumping bullet after bullet into a dead body, in hostile terrority, limited amount of ammo, possibly hostile forces enroute.
That's just not the way Seals, or for that matter, any of our Special Forces operate. They're professionals, they get the job done and get out.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I was a member of the SERE school where we trained the Seals and UDT in Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape back in '68 and early '69. I don't buy this at all. sorry
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)unblock
(52,113 posts)he was probably pretty sure he was dead after the first 499, but shot himself
one more time
just to be sure.
Lost_Count
(555 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)karynnj
(59,495 posts)Note the "report" is from the unnamed website - not any credible source. Here is a google of the name of the website and "wiki" - hoping to get a definition without going there. It looks pretty sketchy - and a source for Glenn Beck! https://www.google.com/search?q=sofrep+wiki&oq=sofrep+wiki&aqs=chrome..69i57.6987j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Muslims into a frenzy to kill more Americans. I really think this post should be eliminated.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)And let's try to mar a tactical event that that proved that PBO wasn't soft on terrorism. Plays right into RW hands to try and find fault with the operation.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)They pretty much accept any old BS story onto their website.
That can make for interesting reading but a lot of it is planted propaganda or just irresponsible and sloppy reporting.
Rex
(65,616 posts)IMO.
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)It seems to me like "hundreds" of the type of rounds fired by Navy Seals would turn the body into Hamburger Helper. Secondly. I'm sure that all the Seals were acutely aware of the importance of positive identification, and wouldn't want to be the one that jeopardized that. That, taken along with later descriptions of the body and of the burial at sea, makes this seem highly exaggerated. Maybe there was an extra few rounds to make sure he was down, but I don't know about everybody there pumping rounds into him for posterity. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Navy Seals are more disciplined than that.
LiberalFighter
(50,767 posts)But I will also give the military the benefit of the doubt until otherwise called for.
In this regards, there is no confirmation or reliable support for the accusations.
I wonder if the next mission for the Navy SEALS might be the Daily Mail? At least put some fear into them.
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)he'd be nothing but 170 lbs of ground chuck and there'd be no body left to dump into the ocean
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Master Sargent, get the spatula.
Oy.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)in the first place.
Throd
(7,208 posts)But then again, I'm not held to the same standards as a Navy SEAL.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)Just as believable.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Yeah, I totally believe this.
Not.
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,676 posts)would have been used by Al Qaeda to rile up the masses.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)CFLDem
(2,083 posts)but it's nice to think about. Hope they took a nice steamy dump on him, too. 💩
rppper
(2,952 posts)Two of the four submarines I served on were dedicated spec-ops boats...including the test bed boat for submarine/special forces ops after 1990...I'm the guy who let them in and out of the escape chambers...they would tell you some gruesome war stories, but it was all strictly line if duty stuff, not pumping 500+ additional rounds into a dead body on site. I seriously doubt they fired inside a helo or onboard an aircraft carrier with 6000 crew-members...none of the spec-ops teams, from any of the services, I ever assisted onboard showed anything but the utmost professionalism and seriousness towards their missions. The entire team probably carried just over 500 rounds between them. They're not heavily armored.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)from your link:
Citing two confidential sources, The Special Operations Forces Situation Report tells how 'operator after operator took turns dumping magazines-worth of ammunition into Bin Ladens body'.
The Special Operations Forces Situation Report page where they list the charities they support.
You'll see this:
Glen Doherty was one of the four Americans killed in a terror attack in Benghazi, Libya on September 12, 2012. The Glen Doherty Memorial Foundation is our way to honor Glens life and his beliefs.
Glen believed in education, improving oneself and building skills. He believed life should be earned by hard work and hard play. Celebrate this beautiful world that we live in, recreate as much as humanly possible. Help others, and surround yourself with people that you respect who challenge you and make you a better person. Through this Foundation our goal is to pay it forward, to spread Glens love and passion for life to as many individuals as possible.