Does Crimea have a right to non-Crimean support infrastructure?

[cthulu2016]

Last edited Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Crimea is a peninsula (very nearly an island) that is not well situated to be self sustaining. It relies on non-Crimean Ukraine for things like water and power.

If a territory wants to be "free" does it then have the right to annex whatever additional territory and resources it requires to be free?

(Or if it wants to be Russian, does Russia then have the right to whatever infrastructure is needed to support that part of Russia.)

SIMFEROPOL, Ukraine — Tensions mounted on the eve of a secession referendum here in Crimea as helicopter-borne Russian forces made a provocative incursion just beyond the peninsula’s regional border to seize a natural gas terminal while American and European officials prepared sanctions to impose on Moscow as early as Monday.

The military operation by at least 80 troops landing on a slender sand bar just across Crimea’s northeast border seemed part of a broader effort to strengthen control over the peninsula before a vote Sunday on whether its majority Russian-speaking population wants to demand greater autonomy from Ukraine or break completely and join Russia. Whatever its tactical goals, it sent a defiant message to the United States and Europe and underscored that a diplomatic resolution to Russia’s recent takeover of Crimea remains elusive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/world/europe/russian-troops-seize-gas-plant-beyond-crimean-border-ukraine-says.html?partner=EXCITE&ei=5043&_r=0

[jakeXT]

1. There is a bridge project

Russia says it will build bridge to Crimea
Mon Mar 3, 2014 3:56pm GMT

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said on Monday that Russia would press ahead with plans to build bridge linking Russia directly with Ukraine's Crimea region, which Moscow has wrested from Kiev's control in the past few days.

Under discussion for years, a bridge linking southern Russia's Krasnodar region with Crimea would give Russia a transport link to the prized Black Sea peninsula that would bypass the rest of Ukraine.

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBREA221EM20140303?irpc=932

[Duckhunter935]

2. replied to wrong post

[Duckhunter935]

3. no

and I think the Ukrainian military assets should be moved to the country of Ukraine then. If they want to be autonomous or a part of Russia then Ukraine has no reason to provide any support.

[LisaL]

4. It again wants to become a part of Russia, not be free.

It doesn't look to be possible for it to be an autonomous territory.

[Duckhunter935]

5. I guess then Russia must provide all support

Ukraine has no reason too.

[Igel]

6. Does Ukraine have a right to non-Ukrainian support infrastructure?

That's a silly question. Of course not.

Ukraine can charge Crimea what it wants. The old agreements are no more. It wants to have a 200% surcharge on any water or natural gas or electricity, it can do what it's learned from Russia.

Russia, of course, won't let that happen easily. Russia has rights owed to it. All others have obligations.