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Current new stories often use the term "the west", as in "if Russia doesn't respond to the demand of 'the west', sanctions will be further escalated".
Who/what is "the west"?
What person or body speaks for "the west"?
Where can I find a good reference about "the west"?
Or are they just referring to some coterie of neo-Con foreign policy wonks in Washington?
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)At least the part that is West of the Urals.
It would also include Byelorussia, Ukraine and maybe Georgia and Armenia?
I doubt that all of Europe is meant. I'm not sure where the line currently is, but it used to be west of the Iron Curtain. Even now, some may include Catholic Poland, but not Orthodox Bulgaria. Is orthodox Greece part of the West?
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)The "west bloc" link to Wikipedia is a good one.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)US + UK + Germany + France + Italy + Austria + Belgium + Netherlands + Denmark + Norway + Sweden + Australia + New Zealand. "The West" in terms of foreign policy and such generally refers to COld War era NATO countries and allies; it also refers to "Western" culture (Protestant and Catholic Europe and by extension former British colonies in North America and Oceania vs Orthodox Christian Eastern Europe). As for "who speaks for the West" that would probably be NATO.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)But you left off Spain and Portugal, which have been NATO members of long standing.
On the cultural split, Greece and Cyprus would not be part of the west, although classical Greece is part of the western tradition.
If Australia and New Zealand are part of the west, what about Japan and South Korea?
"The West" is plainly a vague, bullshit term used by commentators to imply that all of the most important countries of the world agree with the US, whether they actually do or not.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)In the sense of "Western European"; in its original sense the "West" refers to Western Christian countries vs Orthodox (and the split between "East" and "West" that goes back to the Middle Ages has remained fairly consistent since). Japan is not "Western" culturally. Neither is South Korea. They are in terms of alliances (with the US/NATO) in the post-WWII era. And no, there are clear divisions in international alignment, in history and culture, in conceptions of things like democracy and human rights, that make "the West" a useful term (in contrast to "the East" of Russia and aligned former Soviet republics in Central Asia).
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)...and maybe Bonn, if they have some money.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)The well-spring of all earthly travails without which the world would be an economic, ecological and ecumenical Paradise.
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)n/t