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John Glaser
Bill Kristol is not shy about his fetish for war. His latest piece at the neoconservative Weekly Standard borders on self-parody in the way that it openly longs for a return to a time when Americans were eager to send the U.S. military off on unnecessary, imperialistic adventures.
Kristol is frustrated by the war-weariness of the nation. He laments the reluctance on the part of the Republican Party to challenge the idol of war-weariness.
A war-weary public can be awakened and rallied, Kristol cheers. Indeed, events are right now doing the awakening. All thats needed is the rallying. And the turnaround can be fast.
People like Kristol are so blinded by ideology that they breach the etiquette which calls on elite commentators to camouflage their enthusiasm for war with superficial appeals to peace. He loves death and destruction and wars of choice and he doesnt care who knows it! He is way out of the closet. That he can explicitly call for Americans to be awakened and rallied for new wars and not be embarrassed by the Hitler-esque tone of such despicable cravings is an indication of how lacking in self-awareness he is. His foreign policy beliefs are the kind that are not susceptible to reasoning or disconfirming evidence. His worship for the warfare state is religious in its persuasion.
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http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/03/17/bill-kristol-calls-for-americans-to-be-awakened-and-rallied-to-war/
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)MindMover
(5,016 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Submariner
(12,503 posts)he is so disappointed with Bush gone his hopes of a worldwide PNAC war hasn't taken out Iran yet. Kristol needs to come down with a stroke or something that gets him into a living assistance facility for those with early dementia.
Lasher
(27,567 posts)He wants other people to go and he wants other people to pay for it.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)He thinks that everyone but him is a stooge.
AAO
(3,300 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)...since you're obviously not volunteering for the front lines:
What's your plan to raise your own taxes to pay for it? If you think it's that important, why aren't you willing to put your money into it?
AAO
(3,300 posts)He'd scream bloody murder if anything cost him in the slightest -- in any way.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)These assholes get so brave when it's other people's children and grandchildren who will be fighting, dying and getting injured/suffering from PTSD.
pa28
(6,145 posts)He needs to load them into the car and take them to the recruiting office.
JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)He can ask to go to war - and not a moment before that.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)He can grab his gear and fly over on his own dime and fight for whatever he deems right.
Orrex
(63,200 posts)I defy anyone to point to a single instance when Bill Kristol was right about anything while opposing the prevailing wisdom.
It's amazing that he still finds work. If I were as bad at my job as he is at his (nominal) job, I'd be living on the street.
tech3149
(4,452 posts)"When was Bill Kristol right about anything?" Pretty much never but he and his ilk still get prime time coverage about anything they say. That's one of the reasons I pretty much tuned out commercial media and rely on those commie, pinko, listener/viewer supported media that isn't bought off.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Hekate
(90,642 posts)Love the imagery, btw.
jsr
(7,712 posts)by this president.
― Bill Kristol, March 1, 2003
AAO
(3,300 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)now that we are theoretically leaving Afghanistan.
Maybe he should invest in Russia.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)will that do ya, Bill?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)kairos12
(12,852 posts)Hekate
(90,642 posts)TBF
(32,047 posts)be the best start. I kind of feel bad for his offspring ...
Pakid
(478 posts)and be turn into a piece of burnt toast in the nuclear exchange. I have a better idea how about if we grow up and start acting like something other than fools and Kristol you are at the head of the list of people who need to grow up
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)Krystol on "This Week" actually makes me miss George Will. He just reeks of smugness.
Chef Eric
(1,024 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)It is probably all invested in MIC stocks too! Maybe Greenwald's group can do some digging on all of the chicken hawks, they will see the same thing for all I am sure!
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)again.
AAO
(3,300 posts)think
(11,641 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)You first.
rurallib
(62,406 posts)Mom, Dad, Aunts, Uncles, kids and grandkids, nephews and nieces in one room.
Tell them that your whole family, you included will go and fight the great war. There is a good possibility you will be killed in a foreign land and never see loved ones again.
Tell them it is for liberty and freedom and it is time for someone to put Putin in his place.
Get them all spiffy uniforms and to Crimea.
Be sure to tell us how it comes out.
TRoN33
(769 posts)I literally flip the middle finger toward this photo of douchebag, Kristol. He is a warmonger with zero regards for innocent deaths.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Theyletmeeatcake2
(348 posts)When weren't we in those times....which conflict doesn't involve the world's policeman!!!! Kristol is an absolute prick but don't fool yourselves that the U.S. Hasn't always got involved in other people's business....a couple of hundred foreign bases is proof.. it'd be good if someone research ed the proliferation of us bases in a timeline
Liberal In Texas
(13,546 posts)He and his chicken-hawk friends equate defense with aggression.
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AAO
(3,300 posts)spanone
(135,818 posts)Garion_55
(1,915 posts)spanone
(135,818 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...You want to get awakened? Get thee to Crimea and show us how it's supposed to be done...otherwise STFU...
90-percent
(6,829 posts)All it will take is another cataclysmic "new Pearl Harbor" mass tragedy and if it's big enough, maybe we could reinstate the draft! Hopefully without all the "rich delicate young Republican deferments" that chicken hawks Cheney, Romney, Limbaugh and the rest of their ilk used when it was their time to serve their country.
-90% Jimmy
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Seems we are already serving everyone else's country.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)"serving their country" is a misnomer. What our military-industrial-congressional-security-complex really serves is the interests of Dick Cheney's 2001 Energy Task Force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Task_Force
from the above wikipedia:
"Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials."
WE ARE ALL DEEP STATERS NOW!
-90% Jimmy
AAO
(3,300 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)to be sent onto the front line as the one to fire the first shot! People like him are evil... they have no problem sacrificing good men and women for their fanatical dreams of empire. Why should we all sacrifice our own for the likes of a man like this... for his warped ego trip? He is a very sick man, and the only thing I can think of to stop the bleeding of our country is to lock up people like him for life.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Assholes like him are one of the reasons we spend over 50% of the yearly budget on stuff to kill people and blow up shit. I want a country of peace and this asscarrot is an enemy of that.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)We'll see how committed to war he is.
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)I am reminded of that photo of a German crowd, including a young Adolf Hitler, celebrating the declaration of war in 1914. Celebrating as if war was a sporting event.
A hundred years later, and there are still those who haven't learned.
Blue Owl
(50,348 posts)Autumn
(45,052 posts)3catwoman3
(23,971 posts)...succinctly put. I was trying to think of something pithy to say, but I can't top this.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)We get a rightie in office and he'll have his wish. Any international event can be turned into something against our 'national security'.
Then they'll come down from the hills hooting and hollering their 'us v them' mentality.
Once upon a time, this country had potential.
3catwoman3
(23,971 posts)...needs a lobster bib to keep the warmongering drool off his tie.
I have often wondered if GWB had been the father of twin sons rather than twin daughters, if he would have been so hot to trot into war. Of course there are women in the military (I was one), but we are generally no where near as much at risk of dying while in.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Dumb fuck!
Yavin4
(35,433 posts)Iraq and Afghanistan have worn us out. We can't muster up any kind force unless we went to a draft, and if we did have a draft, then this country would revolt en masse. It would make the 60s look like a picnic.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)if we perceive this as a non necessary war, you are right. The 1960s would look like a real picnic
If it was perceived as a real poke in the eye (see Pearl Harbor), then you would have no problem with a draft. For the record, I think our neo cons are hoping with all their heart that we have a major attack on the mainland so we can have yet another war.
These men, and it is mostly men who refused to serve when they were young, are just sick. This is what they remind me off...
riversedge
(70,186 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)That might help to "awaken" Bill Kristol from his "slumber".
Hekate
(90,642 posts)I'm sure DUers would all like to tell them.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)editor@weeklystandard.com
polichick
(37,152 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Hekate
(90,642 posts)...that kind of thing is not for the likes of him, or Cheney, or Rumsfeld, is it?
Bill Kristol can kiss my rosy Irish ass.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 18, 2014, 08:48 PM - Edit history (1)
but it's unsurprising: the except for that fire-balloon and 9-11 we've never had mass casualties from warlike acts (outside of our colonial territories, sorry): we've never had to pick up dozens of 8-year-olds in knickerbockers and throw them onto a pile for burning or bury infants covered in third-degree burns in the ashes of what used to be a whole city; and the wingers have had even less experience--Heinlein never saw combat and the neocons even less so
Wodehouse mocked the trend by having the Germans, Russians, Manchu, Pacific islanders, Rif rebels, Dervishes, Monegasques, and Swiss attack at once: he got the British mad because he was Dixie Chicking something they saw as Deadly Serious--the moment when the Fritzes Finally Would storm East Anglia, drag off our screaming women and line us up against the wall OMG OMG OMG
but this melodramatic nonsense--deeply coupled with calls for "preparedness" and conscription--flung everyone directly into a four-year vortex of death that wiped out half a generation
Hekate
(90,642 posts)Gothmog
(145,126 posts)The neocons have never seen a war or conflict that they think is a bad idea
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)idendoit
(505 posts)Turbineguy
(37,317 posts)does he have any children to enlist in the armed services or is this just for other people.
pansypoo53219
(20,969 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Of which war is perhaps the biggest.
All Bloody Bill has to sell is such distraction.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)That chickenhawk doucherocket can fuck right off.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)This man is bonkers.
Warpy
(111,243 posts)and find out just how enthusiastic he really is about war.
That asshole needs to shut his ignorant mouth. Most of us are sick of right wing wars.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)A war-weary public can be awakened and rallied, Kristol cheers.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)He's never heard of a war that he didn't like, but he'd never serve in one.