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hack89

(39,171 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:25 PM Mar 2014

Venezuela In Turmoil For Lack Of Flour, Milk And Diapers

Student-led demonstrations have been roiling Venezuela for more than a month. At least 28 people have been killed and dozens wounded in confrontations between security forces and those who have taken to the streets. The list of grievances — rising crime, inflation — is long, but the main one for many is the scarcity of basic foodstuffs.

As with everything in Venezuela, the reasons given for the food shortages depend on political affiliation. The government says it's the result of unscrupulous businessmen waging an economic war and hoarding by regular people afraid of shortages.

Those in the opposition blame a system that imposes price controls, the lack of money to buy imports and problems in the supply chain after the expropriation of farms and factories by the socialist government.

Inside the market, the manager, Roger Escorihuela, takes me around and points out that the shelves are not bare. There are cereals, eggs and pastas and fancy jams, but the staples that are subject to price controls — black beans, butter, corn meal, the list goes on — are missing, he says.


http://www.npr.org/2014/03/16/290516431/venezuela-in-turmoil-for-lack-of-flour-milk-and-diapers

Price controls and draconian currency regulations are a bad combination for a country dependent on imports.
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Venezuela In Turmoil For Lack Of Flour, Milk And Diapers (Original Post) hack89 Mar 2014 OP
Or, there's a capital strike going on Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #1
It is the lack of dollars that is the bigger issue hack89 Mar 2014 #3
They need to buy foreign beans and corn meal? Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #10
Venezula imports about two thirds of their food needs hack89 Mar 2014 #13
That's what happens when you impose price controls--basic economics dictate geek tragedy Mar 2014 #5
Funny how so many people don't understand this. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #19
the protestors are a political benefit to Maduro at this point. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #2
He will eventually declare a state of emergency hack89 Mar 2014 #4
they shouldn't give him the pretext. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6
If the desperation continues to grow hack89 Mar 2014 #7
so long as it's primarily middle class and upper class faces geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16
So.... NobodyHere Mar 2014 #8
building alliances with Venezuela's poor geek tragedy Mar 2014 #9
Novel idea...too bad OCCUPY didn't try it. brooklynite Mar 2014 #11
some local occupies did try it, problem with not having leadership geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14
Venezuela imports 50% of their food. 10/25/13 Zorra Mar 2014 #12
You need dollars to import food hack89 Mar 2014 #15
Like the article in my post said Zorra Mar 2014 #17
No one is attacking their currency hack89 Mar 2014 #18
how does one attack another country's currency? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #21
Good article comparing Venezuela to Bolivia FreeJoe Mar 2014 #20

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
1. Or, there's a capital strike going on
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:27 PM
Mar 2014

just as there was in Chile in 1973. The producers of staples are miffed at the price controls and have decided not to produce, no matter how much ordinary people suffer.

Some of us are old enough to remember the first edition of this movie.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
3. It is the lack of dollars that is the bigger issue
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:29 PM
Mar 2014

companies need dollars to buy foreign goods and they simply can't get them.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
10. They need to buy foreign beans and corn meal?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:46 PM
Mar 2014

Who knew?

Are the prices below sustainability for the growers or just below profiteering levels?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
13. Venezula imports about two thirds of their food needs
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:53 PM
Mar 2014
Venezuela imports about two-thirds of its food needs. In 2009, U.S. firms exported $967 million worth of agricultural products, including wheat, corn, soybeans, soybean meal, cotton, animal fats, vegetable oils, fruits, nuts, dairy products, processed fruits and vegetables, and other items to make Venezuela one of the top two U.S. markets in South America. The United States supplies roughly one-quarter of Venezuela's food imports.


http://globaledge.msu.edu/countries/venezuela/economy
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. That's what happens when you impose price controls--basic economics dictate
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:33 PM
Mar 2014

that if people can't make money producing something for sale, they'll stop producing it for sale. It's not a matter of being 'miffed' it's about government policy driving producers out of business

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. the protestors are a political benefit to Maduro at this point.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:29 PM
Mar 2014

stop breaking shit, settle down for a while, and let the government and the results of its policies regain center stage.

and, I dunno, maybe win an election before stating that they speak on behalf of the people.

Maduro is a thug and an economic illiterate, but his opponents are doing their best to prop him up

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. He will eventually declare a state of emergency
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:32 PM
Mar 2014

and extend his emergency decree powers indefinitely. I suspect we have seen the last election in VZ for a long time.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. If the desperation continues to grow
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:40 PM
Mar 2014

I am not sure it is within the power of the students to put a damper on the protests.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. so long as it's primarily middle class and upper class faces
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:00 PM
Mar 2014

associated with those protests, they're not going to succeed and they're going to lack legitimacy.

take that outrage and channel it into good old fashioned coalition building.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
8. So....
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:43 PM
Mar 2014

The protesters should just shut up and smile while Maduro runs their country into the ground?

What should the protesters be doing?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. building alliances with Venezuela's poor
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:46 PM
Mar 2014

make the case to Venezuela's poor that there's a better way to make sure they don't starve to death than Maduro's failing policies

and then win elections

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. some local occupies did try it, problem with not having leadership
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:58 PM
Mar 2014

is that a movement thus has no direction, and then begins to lack a purpose that justifies its continuance

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
12. Venezuela imports 50% of their food. 10/25/13
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:51 PM
Mar 2014

Officials argue that current economic problems are the result of an “economic war” being waged against the government by wealthy allies of the conservative opposition, who they say are seeking to attack the country’s currency and cause discontent in the population by disrupting food supply.

“The president [Nicolas Maduro] instructed [the purchase of] more food because that’s where they [the opposition] are playing dirty with the whole country. They’re deviating the food supply, they take it as contraband or they hoard it,” said Rafael Ramirez while explaining the motives behind the food import plan on Wednesday.

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10122

Right Wingers/Capitalists will do anything, even start completely unwarranted wars, such as the war and conquest of Iraq, to get access to a sovereign nation's oil.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
17. Like the article in my post said
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:07 PM
Mar 2014
10/25/13

"...they are seeking to attack the country’s currency and cause discontent in the population by disrupting food supply."

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10122

hack89

(39,171 posts)
18. No one is attacking their currency
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 03:23 PM
Mar 2014

they are simply not bringing in enough dollars to meet demand. They are hemorrhaging dollars because the public is looking to protect their money from inflation.

VZ has devalued their currency seven times since 2003

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. how does one attack another country's currency?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 03:34 PM
Mar 2014

if anyone--anyone--on the planet thought the VN bolivar was a safe investment, they'd be buying them up.

when literally no one on the planet is willing to trade dollars for your currency, time to look in the mirror

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