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TexasTowelie

(111,969 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 01:10 AM Mar 2014

The Hightower Report: The spreading plague of anti-bacterial products

Have you had your daily minimum requirement of triclosan today? How about your dosage of triclocarban?

Chances are you have, but don't know it. These are two anti-microbial chemicals, which might sound like a good thing, except that they disrupt the human body's normal regulatory processes. Animal studies show, for example, that these triclos can be linked to the scrambling of hormones in children, disruption of puberty and of the reproductive system, decreases in thyroid hormone levels that affect brain development, and other serious health problems.

Yet, corporations have slipped them into all sorts of consumer products, pushing them with a blitz of advertising that claim the anti-bacterial ingredients prevent the spread of infections. The two chemicals were originally meant for use by surgeons to cleanse their hands before operations, but that tiny application has now proliferated like a plague, constantly exposing practically everyone to small amounts here, there, and everywhere, adding up to dangerous megadoses.

Triclosan and triclocarban were first mixed into soaps, but then – BOOM! – brand-name corporations went wild, putting these hormone disrupters into about 2,000 products, including toothpaste, mouthwashes, fabrics, and (most astonishingly) even baby pacifiers! Today, use of the chemicals is so prevalent that they can be found in the urine of three-fourths of Americans. They also accumulate in groundwater and soil, so they saturate our environment and eventually ourselves – one study found them in the breast milk of 97% of women tested.

More at http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2014-03-21/the-hightower-report/ .

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The Hightower Report: The spreading plague of anti-bacterial products (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2014 OP
I recommend Dr. Bronner's all natural soap demigoddess Mar 2014 #1
Any soap works. (But I am a fan of Bronner's, too.) Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #4
How people are led by the nose through propaganda. A solution to something that is not a problem. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #2
K&R laundry_queen Mar 2014 #3
The hits just keep on coming.... blackspade Mar 2014 #5
Handwashing with regular soap SheilaT Mar 2014 #6
hate hate hate. i make friends w/ bacteria. eat stuff that falls on the floor. pansypoo53219 Mar 2014 #7
K Cha Mar 2014 #8
And then there's the plastic industry... ReRe Mar 2014 #9
Anything like that also inhibits the body's natural ability to defend itself. cui bono Mar 2014 #10
This is really depressing. Igel Mar 2014 #11

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
1. I recommend Dr. Bronner's all natural soap
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:25 AM
Mar 2014

it works just as well as all those horrible ingredients and smells better. Also a baby should not use a pacifier more than a few weeks and should not be dropping it on the floor at that age so germ killers not needed.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
3. K&R
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:37 AM
Mar 2014

Up until now, especially for hand soap, I've just been buying what is cheapest. I'm well aware of the controversy, but things are tight as a single parent. I'm a little bit fanatical about my kids washing their hands (let's just say having 4 kids with norovirus at the same time, plus you too, sucks ass) and so we go through a lot of soap. I'm not comfortable with bar soap, since it sits there and kids aren't good at rinsing the gunk off. I sometimes use one of those 'foam' soap dispensers for my own bathroom because you can add a small bit of soap and get a lot of foam, but I don't trust the cleansing properties of super diluted soap for kids who sometimes aren't very conscientious with their hand washing. And so I want them to use full powered (lol) liquid soap.
But to find some cheap stuff without triclosan is not easy. It's like Frank's red hot - they put that shit in everything.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. Handwashing with regular soap
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 03:05 AM
Mar 2014

is a Very Good Thing. The antibacterial stuff is essentially a crock. I do my very best to avoid those things.

I'm also very bothered by the prevalence of the alcohol handwashing. It's my opinion that those give a false sense of security, and that washing with soap and water is much better.

It's also true that a certain degree of exposure to the environment is good, it's how we build our immune system.

pansypoo53219

(20,955 posts)
7. hate hate hate. i make friends w/ bacteria. eat stuff that falls on the floor.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 04:06 AM
Mar 2014

tho i do use hydrogen peroxide for my cat bites. bad boy still hasn't learned. he already gave me an infection.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. And then there's the plastic industry...
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 04:17 AM
Mar 2014

... poisoning our environment and our bodies the world over.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
10. Anything like that also inhibits the body's natural ability to defend itself.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 05:25 AM
Mar 2014

I never take cold medicine, try not to use antibacterial soaps, etc... I prefer to let my body do what it's supposed to do so that it knows how to do it.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
11. This is really depressing.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 01:25 PM
Mar 2014

For years its been known that the antibacterials don't do much. Most illness is viral. Virus =/= bacterium.

What the antibacterials do is make bacteria a bit more resistant. All that nasty, evil "natural selection" stuff. The relative risk of ever-so-slightly more resistant bacteria to each user of these products is small; the risk to others is small, but with 300 million Americans the risk for a small fraction is very large. The argument was made that by using these we ultimately hurt others.

was the response. Nobody cared. Nobody wanted to hear it. The perceived risk to the user of not using the products was greater than the induced risk to some stranger, even if the benefit of the products was very nearly 0.


But some "link" showing that in some models triclosan and triclocarban might have a hormonal effect; the very idea that chemicals we absorb and ingest might somehow make their way into our bodies (how counterintuitive is that?); the general fear of chemicals, because we all should live in a chemical-free natural state might be enough. The minute risk of a link in an animal model that might affect "me" suddenly makes it worthwhile where the virtually certain risk that it would affect another leaves good old altruistic, Xian, whatever, "me" utterly cold.

(The downside: I have students who insist they're not made of chemicals. Chemicals are bad. They're unnatural. They want all the chemicals out of their body. Cyanocobalamin is evil sounding and must be avoided; "vitamin B12" is good. Give them a test and that's how they'll answer. They're the same stuff. It's like a Star Trek:TNG episode in which a "baryon sweep" would remove all the baryons from the Enterprise. The group I was watching the episode with the first time laughed until they cried. The idea of removing all the neutrons and protons from the Enterprise, leaving only an electron cloud in space ... "It's a Romulan plot to destroy the Enterprise!" Priceless.)


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