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When's the last time you've heard of a disease that's been cured? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2014 OP
A Long Time - Maintenance Drugs Are More Profitable For The Drug Companies cantbeserious Mar 2014 #1
Maintenance drugs have importance. I take a maintenance bluestate10 Mar 2014 #49
A lot of diseases caused by bacteria are cured all the time with antibiotics. Giliad's hepC lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #2
If you get rabies Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2014 #47
Nope though rare, it is NOT unheard of ... Ecumenist Mar 2014 #48
If you can start treatment within 5 days it can be prevented lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #51
Polio is making a comeback in places like oh Syria nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #3
Hep C, Leprosy. -nt Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #4
There are a lot of things, especially bacterial causing organisms as you mentioned lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #8
Have you forgotten this great breakthrough? 1000words Mar 2014 #5
Do you mean other than Smallpox? longship Mar 2014 #6
Dracunculiasis. Chan790 Mar 2014 #7
I suspect within the next 10 years with the human genome there will be some major breakthroughs lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #9
Yeah. I suspect vaccination and antibiotics took out most of the "easy" stuff. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #15
It when shake thing up when then start to reprogram the DNA of different cancers lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #30
Diseases are cured all the time. SheilaT Mar 2014 #10
Latest disease prevented: chicken pox Warpy Mar 2014 #11
No profit in that. polichick Mar 2014 #12
You are exactly right... RichGirl Mar 2014 #14
Sad, but true - and Big Pharma isn't making enough new antiobiotics... polichick Mar 2014 #18
I beg to differ... Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #26
There's a big need: polichick Mar 2014 #28
Yes there is a big need, but it doesn't follow that new antibiotics aren't being developed. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #29
My point is that profit plays far too big a part in all aspects of healthcare. polichick Mar 2014 #33
Are medical breakthroughs then coming more from countries with non-profit el_bryanto Mar 2014 #40
Medical breakthroughs often come through public (gov't) dollars... polichick Mar 2014 #43
Yes they are. People who work for drug companies get diseases too lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #32
Correction: it's not that they're not making ANY, just not enough... polichick Mar 2014 #34
The us isn't the only country where advances are being made, or where drugs are developed. In fact lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #42
I'm all for advances wherever we can find them... polichick Mar 2014 #45
of course lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #52
Really? You don't think that a company that came up with a magic bullet for all cancer... Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #20
There just isn't one cancer, that increases the complexity of the problem. In addition where lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #35
Yes, I understand that. But it was a hypothetical to the nonsense of "sitting on a cure". Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #38
Actually, the cancer industry is huge. I do think there is profit motive... polichick Mar 2014 #39
Sure, but things are changing there to depending on the cancer. Focus on lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #46
Hep C is a big one. Texasgal Mar 2014 #13
Leukemia Frosty1 Mar 2014 #16
What's your point? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #17
Small pox and rinderpest. Confirmed eradicated by the WHO. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #19
Smallpox and rinderpest. zappaman Mar 2014 #21
Looks like plenty from the thread. Good! Lex Mar 2014 #22
Hepatitis C sharp_stick Mar 2014 #23
I had pneumonia and got cured. uppityperson Mar 2014 #24
Peptic ulcers. With antibiotics. mainer Mar 2014 #25
I guess we are supposed to believe NIH, CDC, University researchers, etc., are sitting on cures. Hoyt Mar 2014 #27
Exactly, who wants a Nobel prize and a place in the history books anyway? -nt Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #31
Anti-Science bullshit? Conspiracy non-sense? A bit of both... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #36
I'm not weighing in on "cured" but Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #37
They are really making extremely encouraging progress with HIV/AIDS Number23 Mar 2014 #41
4 days ago, when Fred Phelps died. flvegan Mar 2014 #44
Syphilis. blue neen Mar 2014 #50
Sorry that's alive and kicking in underprivileged areas around the world. nt uriel1972 Mar 2014 #53
Unfortunately, that's true. blue neen Mar 2014 #54
Ah true that.... nt uriel1972 Mar 2014 #55
There are a great many diseases that have a cure.... uriel1972 Mar 2014 #56
Yesterday. GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #57

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
49. Maintenance drugs have importance. I take a maintenance
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:36 PM
Mar 2014

drug. Doctors examined me thoroughly and tried other therapies before putting me on the maintenance drug.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
2. A lot of diseases caused by bacteria are cured all the time with antibiotics. Giliad's hepC
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 07:49 PM
Mar 2014

Looks like it is causing major remissions if not cure for hep C

Rabies, small pox, a lot things

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
48. Nope though rare, it is NOT unheard of ...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:53 PM
Mar 2014

In 2004, American teenager Jeanna Giese survived an infection of rabies unvaccinated. She was placed into an induced coma upon onset of symptoms and given ketamine, midazolam, ribavirin, and amantadine. Her doctors administered treatment based on the hypothesis that detrimental effects of rabies were caused by temporary dysfunctions in the brain and could be avoided by inducing a temporary partial halt in brain function that would protect the brain from damage while giving the immune system time to defeat the virus. After 31 days of isolation and 76 days of hospitalization, Giese was released from the hospital. She survived with all higher level brain functions, but an inability to walk and balance. On a podcast of NPR's Radiolab, Giese recounted, "I had to learn how to stand and then to walk, turn around, move my toes. I was really, after rabies, a new born baby who couldn't do anything. I had to relearn that all...mentally I knew how to do stuff but my body wouldn't cooperate with what I wanted it to do. It definitely took a toll on me psychologically. You know I'm still recovering. I'm not completely back. Stuff like balance and, um, I can't run normally."

Giese's treatment regimen became known as the "Milwaukee protocol", which has since undergone revision with the second version omitting the use of ribavirin. Two of 25 patients survived when treated under the first protocol. A further 10 patients have been treated under the revised protocol, with a further two survivors.The anesthetic drug ketamine has shown the potential for rabies virus inhibition in rats, and is used as part of the Milwaukee protocol.

On April 10, 2008, in Cali, Colombia, a boy of 11 was reported to have survived rabies and the induced coma without noticeable brain damage.

On June 12, 2011, Precious Reynolds, an eight-year-old girl from Humboldt County, California, became the third reported person in the United States to have recovered from rabies without receiving PEP

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Do you mean other than Smallpox?
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 07:54 PM
Mar 2014

Cured and wiped off the face of the earth in my lifetime.

Yup! It's true.

Enough anti-medicine clap trap.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
7. Dracunculiasis.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 07:54 PM
Mar 2014

From 892,000 cases in 1989 to under 150 last year worldwide. It will be eradicated within 5 years.

It is now considered by the WHO to be a cured disease. Unlike other cured diseases of the 20th century, such as smallpox, which were cured by vaccines, the eradication of guinea worm disease (Dracunculiasis) has been entirely driven by improvements in sanitation.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
15. Yeah. I suspect vaccination and antibiotics took out most of the "easy" stuff.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:21 PM
Mar 2014

When we start talking about diseases like diabetes or various cancers or epilepsy, it gets a lot more complicated than prevent/kill this disease causing organism.

I think some folks believe there is some kind of linear curve when it comes it medicinal cures and while there have been significant breakthroughs in treatment of some diseases, there just aren't that many "magic bullet" breakthrough cures.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
10. Diseases are cured all the time.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:04 PM
Mar 2014

Do you mean a new cure for something we didn't used to have any treatments for? Do you mean a new vaccine for a disease formerly without a vaccine? Do you mean totally eradicating a disease?

We've only done that last one once, and that was smallpox.

Otherwise, people are cured of diseases every day.

Warpy

(111,236 posts)
11. Latest disease prevented: chicken pox
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:09 PM
Mar 2014

and that's only a few years ago. The latest vaccine is the new adult whooping cough vaccine and that's only been out for the last 5-6 years.

Diseases are cured all the time, the ones susceptible to the antibiotics we have. Unfortunately the bugs are fighting back and new models are being developed to fight them and a few are undergoing limited human trials now but nothing is as yet on the market.

There is still money in curing disease. The big advertising budgets are being spent on lifestyle drugs and that is the difference.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
14. You are exactly right...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:18 PM
Mar 2014

They make money from treatments not cures. Healthy people don't bring profit. The good news is that dead people aren't profitable either....so at least they keep you alive. Alive and sick...that's the big money maker.

There is so much profit in cancer that if it were cured our economy would tank.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
18. Sad, but true - and Big Pharma isn't making enough new antiobiotics...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:24 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:57 PM - Edit history (1)

since people only take those for a short time.

They make the bucks on stuff you take for life.

Our gov't better get on the stick and make new antibiotics before super bugs wipe us out.

Learn herbals people!


Edited for accuracy.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
26. I beg to differ...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:35 PM
Mar 2014

2000 Linezolid
2001 Telithromycin
2002 Biapenem
2002 Ertapenem
2002 Prulifloxacin
2002 Pazufloxacin
2002 Balofloxacin
2003 Daptomycinb
2004 Gemifloxacin
2005 Doripenem
2005 Tigecycline
2007 Retapamulin
2007 Garenoxacin
2008 Ceftobiprole
2008 Sitafloxacin
2009 Tebipenem
2009 Telavancin
2009 Antofloxacin
2009 Besifloxacine
2010 Ceftaroline fosamil
2011 Fidaxomicin
2012 Bedaquiline

As of 2013 the ones below were in phase 1 clinical trials.
BAL30072
Exeporfinium chloride
NVB302 (47)
S-649266
POL7080b
LCB01-0371
MRX-I (49)
SMT-19969b
ACHN-975b
GSK-214094b
KPI-10 (50)
DS-8587 (51)
KRP-AM1977X
ATM-AVI
Carbavance

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
29. Yes there is a big need, but it doesn't follow that new antibiotics aren't being developed.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:48 PM
Mar 2014

That's just flat-out wrong.

The overuse of antibiotics is what is driving the need for new antibiotics. The notion that somehow, big pharma is saying, "Gosh, you know multi-drug resistant tuberculosis is easily manageable as a long term chronic illness with current treatments, we should probably not put any money into developing new treatments as it might hurt our bottom line." is somewhat laughable since untreatable TB tends to kill patients.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
40. Are medical breakthroughs then coming more from countries with non-profit
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:05 PM
Mar 2014

healthcare industries?

Bryant

polichick

(37,152 posts)
43. Medical breakthroughs often come through public (gov't) dollars...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:15 PM
Mar 2014

Unfortunately, the U.S. funds less research due to budget cuts.


"The scientific research investment gap continues to widen, jeopardizing potential new insights into diseases and, more importantly, new cures," said co-author Roy Zent, MD, PhD (Vanderbilt Medical Center). He and his colleagues noted that although the National Institutes of Health's annual budget doubled from $13.7 to $26.9 billion per year between 1998 and 2003, it has failed to keep pace with inflation since 2003."

http://www.sciencecodex.com/declines_in_funding_hamper_kidney_research_and_other_areas_of_medical_study-130162

polichick

(37,152 posts)
34. Correction: it's not that they're not making ANY, just not enough...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:56 PM
Mar 2014

and it's about profits - like everything else in the U.S.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
42. The us isn't the only country where advances are being made, or where drugs are developed. In fact
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:11 PM
Mar 2014

a lot of the newer antibiotics come out of Europe.

Certain ulcers can be cured with certain antibiotics, ulcers can be healed with Zantac or Tagamet, etc, which are over the counter

Many of effective treatments for bp are generic now

However, for new development the 5 to 10 years it takes to get a drug to market costs money, and yes, they make a hefty profit from it, but some of that profit goes back into new R&D

There are also orphan diseases which do not make money for the drug companies where some of those profits are used also

Does that mean they don't screw up and do wrong things? Of course not, but when they do, it becomes evident in a relatively short time, and it is costly to them also

As good or bad as the drug companies are, a lot of lives have been saved from their products

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
20. Really? You don't think that a company that came up with a magic bullet for all cancer...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:25 PM
Mar 2014

....wouldn't make huge amounts of money marketing it?

Cancer isn't exactly something that people consider a chronic manageable disease.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
35. There just isn't one cancer, that increases the complexity of the problem. In addition where
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:57 PM
Mar 2014

Treatment for cancers used to focus on both healthy and malignant cells, it is changing to target the only the bad guys and leave the healthy ones alone

Whether its drugs or treatment progress is getting made

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
38. Yes, I understand that. But it was a hypothetical to the nonsense of "sitting on a cure".
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:00 PM
Mar 2014

And the notion that a company wouldn't profit enormously from any type of cure of a particular cancer.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
46. Sure, but things are changing there to depending on the cancer. Focus on
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:32 PM
Mar 2014

Prevention, active Surveillance, etc

As more knowledge is gathered

Frosty1

(1,823 posts)
16. Leukemia
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:22 PM
Mar 2014

My granddaughter is now 5 years post remission. I believe that is considered cured.

Her type of leukemia has a 90% cure rate.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
19. Small pox and rinderpest. Confirmed eradicated by the WHO.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:24 PM
Mar 2014

The former being one of the worst infectious diseases known to man.

Once nanomedicine takes off as a field, cancer and AIDS could be on that list as well.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
25. Peptic ulcers. With antibiotics.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:31 PM
Mar 2014

In the old days, peptic ulcers were treated with antacids and major surgery.

Now that we understand that ulcers are associated with helicobacter pylori, and doctors give patients a course of antibiotics. This is a huge advance.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
37. I'm not weighing in on "cured" but
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 08:58 PM
Mar 2014

kids are no longer out of school for chicken pox, mumps, measles. Anectdotal 31 year view, of course. However, we are on the look out for whooping cough in my area.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
54. Unfortunately, that's true.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:50 PM
Mar 2014

Far too many diseases are still alive and kicking in underprivileged areas. Syphilis has a cure, however, and that was the question I was answering. Eradicated? Now, that's a different story.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
56. There are a great many diseases that have a cure....
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:54 PM
Mar 2014

getting said cure to the sufferers is a big problem. And yes the pharmaceutical industry could do better, a lot better, but it would require a lot of political pressure from around the world to shake it up and I don't see that happening in a hurry.

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