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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 02:59 AM Mar 2014

The way to GOTV for '14 is to FIRE UP THE BASE.

These days, the only voters out there are the ones who want progressive gains or the ones who want to take us back to 1928(or 1876).

The only votes OUR party can possibly get are the people in the first group. Those are the only voters WORTH appealing to.
And they are the majority.

We win if we fire them up...if we make it clear that THEY matter. We lose if we pretend anyone else is worth trying to appeal to...or trying to appease.

OK?

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The way to GOTV for '14 is to FIRE UP THE BASE. (Original Post) Ken Burch Mar 2014 OP
I think this articles sums up nicely why it's hard to fire up the Democratic base: Maedhros Mar 2014 #1
True. Our leaders have been peddling hope to the base and profits to... polichick Mar 2014 #2
Bingo Android3.14 Mar 2014 #3
+1 daleanime Mar 2014 #4
The progressive base ann--- Mar 2014 #5
100% wrong. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #6
Some do feel pretty burned by the Obama experience... polichick Mar 2014 #7
Uh uh....stay home again. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #9
IMO, the problem with midterm non-voters begins with issues, not progressives. HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #10
Sounds like wishful thinking. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #11
Just to be clear MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #8
Yes...certainly on economic and social justice issues in particular. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #12
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
1. I think this articles sums up nicely why it's hard to fire up the Democratic base:
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 03:26 AM
Mar 2014
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/23/the_hope_diet_would_the_tea_party_fall_for_this/

The article is all about how the central message to modern Democratic platforms is "Hope", and then discusses how this lets Democratic politicians off the hook.

“Hope” also sets an extremely low standard for judging Democratic politicians. Hope is, by their definition, something they bring with them, or a place they come from, or a poster they are (literally!) the illustration for; ensuring that this fanciful substance flows our way doesn’t require them actually to, you know, enact anything we’re hoping for. On the contrary, they can do things (like Clinton’s deregulations or Obama’s spying program) that actually harm their constituents, and then tell us, as Barack Obama tweeted after the 2012 election, “The definition of hope is you still believe, even when it’s hard.”

This is the opposite of accountability. It means, just keep waiting, and just keep voting. If you think good thoughts long enough, maybe someday you’ll get that million bucks, or that single-payer healthcare system.
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
3. Bingo
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 04:45 AM
Mar 2014

Last edited Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:13 PM - Edit history (1)

A strong stance on Right to Privacy and curbs on domestic surveillance, a progressive energy policy a.k.a the New Apollo, jobs, minimum wage and education reform (public college tuition anyone?), these are the issues that matter.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
5. The progressive base
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 05:43 AM
Mar 2014

of the Democratic party is staying home. After Obama, why would we trust any Dem?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
6. 100% wrong.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:13 AM
Mar 2014

Progressives are the activists. We never stay home. We may not work for the corporate shill that the Democrats seem to habitually offer up time after time, but we NEVER stay home.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
7. Some do feel pretty burned by the Obama experience...
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 01:13 PM
Mar 2014

Some of those I worked with on the Obama campaign are really over both parties and will not vote this year.

Some who are disgusted will still vote to keep their healthcare plans, some to keep a woman's right to choose, some just against the crazies on the other side.

Long term though, the liberal base needs to figure out whether throwing in with the Dems is the best we can do.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
9. Uh uh....stay home again.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 01:35 PM
Mar 2014

Worked like a charm in 2010.

And you really wonder how nothing gets done?

Yeah, stay home. Just don't keep popping up to complain about all the other "do-nothings."

Those who need to be hand-held to the polls, are NOT the base.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
10. IMO, the problem with midterm non-voters begins with issues, not progressives.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 01:47 PM
Mar 2014

GOTV depends upon activist engagement by volunteers.

What democrats really need is to turn on an army of volunteers who are younger and not as white as traditional midterm voters. IOW GOTV volunteers who immediately relate to the type of democrat that, for various reasons, isn't motivated to prioritize voting in midterms.





JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
11. Sounds like wishful thinking.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 01:51 PM
Mar 2014

The GOP won't be able to prevent all Dems from voting ... so they're trying to talk them into staying home.

The GOP loves this plan.

 

MO_Moderate

(377 posts)
8. Just to be clear
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 01:31 PM
Mar 2014

You are saying that progressives make up the majority of the Democratic Party and we need progressive candidates to fire them up and vote?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
12. Yes...certainly on economic and social justice issues in particular.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 05:41 PM
Mar 2014

The crash of '08 destroyed, even among many "pro-business Democrats&quot I.E., people who would have been Republicans in 1960)the notion that what the wealthy want should matter more than what the majority wants.

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