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So will Russia ban the West and Japan from (Original Post) malaise Mar 2014 OP
As others have pointed out, they need only call our bluff on energy supplies. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #1
Pushing Nato eastward? DetlefK Mar 2014 #2
forced, no, they were eager to get an article 5 guarantee of protection Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #3
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. As others have pointed out, they need only call our bluff on energy supplies.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:21 AM
Mar 2014

Europe needs it. Russia needs the revenue of course but I doubt Europe is going to volunteer for a renewed recession over the redrawing of Ukraine's borders. As I've said from the start, our policy of pushing Nato eastward was inevitably going to result in a pushback from a nationalistic Russian regime reclaiming its historic zone of national interest in eastern Europe. We are going to cave. We aren't going to fight a land war with Russia and nobody is going to go nuclear.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
2. Pushing Nato eastward?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:30 AM
Mar 2014

That sounds as if those countries were forced to join Nato.

Allying with the West was a better deal than allying with Russia and now WE are to blame for THEM joining US?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. forced, no, they were eager to get an article 5 guarantee of protection
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:33 AM
Mar 2014

from Russia, who they knew would recover from the collapse and soon re-assert its traditional dominance of the region. We were incredibly stupid to have offered them this sort of guarantee.

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