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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo those who trust the FDA with regard to vaccines, do you trust them on everything else?
Do you trust their approval of weight loss drugs, psychiatric drugs, Monsanto, genetically modified foods, High Fructose Corn Syrup, artificial sweeteners like aspartame (which is used in many vaccines)?
For those who are skeptical about vaccines, are you skeptical of most other FDA decisions and approvals?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I just love posted all or none statements to make an argument go boom before it even begins.
If you have a better plan to move forward on drug/vaccine safety it might be a good idea to post it.
fried eggs
(910 posts)Just a suggestion. The FDA should strive to make the right decisions across the board, in all situations, no matter how much money is at stake. If an agency has a credibility problem in one area, it's hard for consumers to trust them in other areas.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)A study released Monday in the medical journal Pediatrics analyzed the outbreak pattern and tracked the number of children whose parents filed for non-medical exemptions from the states vaccination program. Non-medical exemptions are given to families whose children are well enough to tolerate the vaccine, but who refuse to administer it to them anyway for religious or other reasons.
The California Department of Health identified 39 statistically significant geographic clusters of families seeking non-medical exemptions and two major zones of whooping cough cases. According to the data, non-medical exemption families were 2.5 times more likely to also live in an outbreak zone.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/01/anti-vaccine-parents-caused-californias-lethal-whooping-cough-epidemic/
NickB79
(19,233 posts)I live in an area with LOTS of old pre-1900 settlement cemeteries that I often walk through. They are FILLED with the graves of families, especially children, who all died within a few days to a few weeks of each other based on the tombstone dates.
Those weren't farm accidents that did them in.
shraby
(21,946 posts)most of their children within a 2 week period. I just can't imagine having a table at dinner time with 8 kids around it and the next week having only maybe 3.
I had one to put on where they came home from the cemetery after burying one child to find another dead from one of those childhood diseases.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think we trust vaccines because of science, not the FDA. Do you trust the science behind vaccines or are you more a Jenny type? I also think you know that. It just doesn't fit the picture you are trying to paint. I have found when someone posts and the first sentence is highly inaccurate, the point trying to be made normally follows suit.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I'm surprised the OP didn't also throw evil water fluoridation and the "dangers" of smart-meters into the mix.
Sid
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)of quackery or anonymous posters on the internet who ask loaded questions. How's that?
Now, I've answered your question, so how about answering mine?
Who do you trust for factual information about medications and the like?
Gman
(24,780 posts)Endorsing vaccines. Like the entire civilized and even uncivilized world endorses vaccines. What does that have to do with genetically modified corn?
Auggie
(31,162 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Climate change deniers, or believers in Creationism that actually believe the Earth is really only 6,000 years old. That is what I think.
In other words, I don't trust a fucking thing anti-vaccination people say.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)And science shows vaccines work, and are safe.
Science also showed your evil boogeymen are safe, or showed them to be safe within their pre-release studies. The public at large is a much larger pool, and may reveal problems with drugs that pre-release studies do not show - if 1% of people react badly to a drug, you might not find it in a study with 1000 people.
You know what isn't science? Most of the people claiming those boogeymen are evil.
For example, anti-HFCS folks keep pointing to studies showing the effects of 100% fructose compared to 100% glucose. Guess what isn't 100% fructose? HFCS. Our sugar regulation system is triggered by glucose. When you feed subjects 100% fructose, it bypasses that system. HFCS does not bypass that system, because it is roughly 50% glucose, 50% fructose.
To show HFCS is evil, you need to compare it to sucrose (table sugar), because that's what it is replacing, and what it's most similar to. Otherwise you aren't saying anything about HFCS.
How about "artificial sweeteners like aspartame"? Let's roll back to the first evil artificial sweetener, saccharin. It was supposed to be evil because it caused bladder cancer. Turns out it does...in rats. Rats have a protein in their bladders that humans do not have. It's that protein that leads to cancer in rats in the presence of saccharin.
But at least in that case there was reasonable research showing a link. The "research" showing aspartame is dangerous is an example of how not to do research. I eagerly await the "research" showing Stevia is a toxic product of Satan when a new 'all-natural' sweetener comes out.
siligut
(12,272 posts)The FDA doesn't create vaccines or GMO foods, they look at the value vs the risk of what they are presented with. Vaccines help billions of people, I personally believe though, that a minority of people are harmed by them. GMO foods feed billions of people, again, some people don't tolerate them well, but Monsanto cares about money so much more than they care about that minority that they engage in criminal activity to suppress the truth.
I trust the FDA to look at the big picture. But yes, money is a factor and a minority of people who don't matter to the 1% are being hurt because of it.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Post #7 said it better than I can, so I would suggest scrolling up.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)while ago...there never has been any link to problems like autism until idiots like Jenny McCarthy came along.
Do I trust them on everything? No, but these vaccines were tested and okayed during a time when you could put 100% faith in the FDA...scum like Bush and other corporate hacks are wearing away that trust, but it does not apply to vaccines.