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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Is Posted on DU Doesn't Stay on DU.
That's something a lot of us don't think about much. But, when you post something on DU, it's searchable on Google, and Google likes DU a lot. If you start a thread on DU in GD or any other public forum, you can search for your thread title a few minutes later and, if you put the title in quotation marks, it will be the top result in the search results page.
That's because Google constantly watches DU and ranks things posted here pretty highly. We're a popular website.
If you post something that is unique or emphatically worded in the body of a thread, that will also show up in a Google search, if you use those unique keywords.
Sometimes, if you type something extraordinary and if you are well-known outside of DU, that extraordinary thing will be found and posted on many other websites. Once that happens, what you wrote has the potential to go viral, if it is extraordinary enough or if you're well-known enough. Most DUers aren't well-known, but what they post here can still be found on Google.
You can see this for yourself. Just Google your own screen name. You'll find all sorts of things you wrote on DU in the search results, unless your screen name is very common. If you post a lot on DU, lots of results will show up. Usually, some of what you wrote will show up as well. If it's unusual, striking, or out of the ordinary, it's sure to show up.
All of this is to suggest that thinking about what you post on DU is worth doing a little. It will be searchable and connected to your screen name for a long, long time. In some cases, it may appear on other websites, including some websites you may not particularly care for or that don't represent your views. That's more likely, of course, if you're a well-known poster on DU. Then, it might show up on websites that dislike DU and what it represents very much. It could even go viral in ways you won't like.
It's good to consider what you write here and to think before clicking the "Post" button. Once you do, Google will find it and so can anyone else. It can be embarrassing at times, as I have learned myself. Being embarrassed by one's own words isn't much fun, which I've also learned. From learning that, I've learned to reread what I've written before posting it on DU.
If you want to see how it works, go to Google and search for this, including the quotation marks: MineralMan "Paul Ryan is an absolute Poopy-Head."
Wait a few minutes from the time I posted this thread, and you should find it right away.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Its word strings which are linked to.
To confirm just pick any news item for example in any source you please, pick a random a string of say 10 words and then search that string. You'll find the news item you used.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Absofuckingdubidably.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)...linked mostly to my DU posts, and taught me at least the concept of internet posts taking on a life of their own. At least one person that I know used google searches of my DU user name to check out my recent internet activity. Now though, googling "mike_c" turns up many folks who are not me. Something to be said for a common user name!
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)You'll find lot of hits, though.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)There. I've said it.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Just type this, exactly, into Google:
MineralMan "Paul Ryan is an absolute Poopy-Head."
llmart
(15,536 posts)but I just have to say, is this what I'll be doing when I retire? LOL
It's bad enough I spend time on DU when I could be, oh, I don't know, maybe exercising or cleaning closets or something, but now I'll have another excuse not to do those things. I can Google llmart to see what gems I've posted in the past decade.
All kidding aside, llmart is so remote from my real name that at least no one that I know in my real life would have any idea it's me.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)and made fun of it...really???????
Now I really, really, really, hate those fuckers.
They need to get real lives. Quickly.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Sites that post negative things about DU often quote DUers. That's how things spread around the Internet. It can be very unpleasant.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Who takes joy in other people's misfortune? That's just wrong.
Wish I could email an admin there and ask that question. I am looking for a link or address.
I am mad, but not too mad. Upset I guess.
on edit: They were making fun of me thinking that a 3 bedroom, 1700 sq foot house was big for 2 people....one of their "own" finally stood up for me. That was kinda fun.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)They should, but they won't.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)That's just who they are deep down in their core.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)I would NEVER have thought to go to their message board and find a thread about someone and bring it here and make fun of them.
I just can't wrap my head around it. Just can't.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)And they will never ever get the concept of "right speech".
If they had lives, they would be doing something positive or at least neutral instead of attempting to destroy people. I've run into a lot of people who enjoy attacking and lying about others. I used to work with lawyers and judges, and a lot of them are NOT nice people.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:20 AM - Edit history (1)
over there in email on occasion for friends and family that have passed and I meant every word of it.
On edit: Not the stalker website, FR.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)REPUBLICANS and NEOCONS
reddread
(6,896 posts)they called me the world's ugliest transvestite prostitute.
Didnt bother me at all.
But I fucked them pretty good and never got so much as a tip
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Screw them and their small minds.
reddread
(6,896 posts)it was one of my best monkey wrench efforts ever.
pretty much the best.
as if they need any help.
pathetic Republicans.
dumb fuck freepers.
what a Valentine's Day that was.
Maraya1969
(22,478 posts)googling my screen name I found "The conservative cave" had a thread about me.
One of the posts was this:
"Yet another DUmbass I have absolutely no sympathy for. I hope her mother never recovers and the treatment drains every last cent from her family, leaving them destitute and in utter poverty."
It amazes me that some people can be so sociopathic.
"http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=95474.0
Oh and I would like to add, in case this "whatever" sees this that my mother bought long term care insurance many years ago after listening to Suze Ormond. So all her Medicare co-pays are already paid for. Too bad for you.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)They will get theirs.
lululu
(301 posts)I would not waste time reading freeper sites. Just ignore them.
Maraya1969
(22,478 posts)in a few weeks. She will continue with her therapies but her progress is amazing. The brain is an amazing organ.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Who coulda seen that coming?
on edit: I didn't even have to use the posters name in google. That's bad.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)For the life of me, I don't understand why.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)The cost of fame.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)which is probably fitting, given what a drama queen I can be. (And yes, obviously, my screen name is derived from her infamous line in that film.)
frazzled
(18,402 posts)I was shocked to read this article the other day, about how colleges are hiring data collection firms to keep tabs on potential and actual applicants: finding out what they've google searched, discovering things about their parents' finances and ability to pay, etc.
And if you're thinking of just blocking all this kind of information, my guess is you'd probably be in just as much trouble: a student (or job applicant) with absolutely no online presence is likely to be viewed with a hearty dose of suspicion as well.
Internet opens avenues for campuses to recruit, scrutinize applicants
Institutions are turning to "big data" companies such as Hobsons, Oracle and Ellucian to be their Match.com. The trove of data allows recruiters to mine social media interactions, Internet habits and the socioeconomic standing of a student's parents, experts say.
...
While this digital trail can lead to a perfect fit, some observers worry about a darker side to all the information, especially if it's scooped up without proper context.
A student searching online for information about eating disorders might raise a red flag for a school, but the reality could be the student is simply researching a school paper, said Nora Ganim Barnes, director of the Center for Marketing Research at University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth.
No one knows how many schools are data-digging, "but most simply don't want to admit it," said Barnes. "And most people don't think of college as a product to be marketed ... they hold academia to a different standard."
...
To reduce the rejection, technology can also assist in with something called "demonstrated interest." By feeding every contact every email, phone call and school visit into the right software, schools can foresee who is most likely to say yes to an acceptance letter.
Customer relationship management software can cost up to $100,000, but considering travel and other expenses, colleges can quickly recoup their investment especially when admissions offices are being asked to do more with less, said Dana Hamerschlag, a vice president for Ellucian, a Fairfax, Va.-based technology firm with 3,000 higher education clients.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-college-admissions-data-met-20140317,0,2327274,full.story
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)nt
frazzled
(18,402 posts)is that they can even see what your Google searches have been (and see to whom you've been emailing things). That means, essentially, you're hacked. So I would suppose they could trace what has been posted to DU from your computer.
But I'm a complete idiot about this stuff, so anyone, feel free to disabuse me of my notions. To me, this is way more worrisome than the NSA data gathering. It has immediate, real-world consequences--like not getting into a college or being rejected from a job--as opposed to theoretical consequences that would obtain only if and when a heinous despot would decide to use the metadata to some nefarious end. And I've figured, if we get a heinous despot in power, we're screwed anyway. They don't need metadata to wreak havoc and evil.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)That's an incredible invasion of privacy.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)And so it is used.
Iris
(15,652 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)by how you speak when off duty. Using your real name and losing control can be a really really bad idea.
Controversial opinions are fine, but when you go ballistic and sound unhinged, well, that's not so good -you might want to take anger management classes or maybe not play with the keyboard when yu know you are not in control.
*you may think you are through with the past, but the past is not through with you.*
The internet holds part of your past. It would be wise to acknowledge this.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)If they can tell what you're searching on Google, they are not just out there looking for your name. They are inside your computer.
Still, you're right ... people, especially young people, are incredibly naive about putting out the details of their lives out there on the Internet.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Not everyone needs to know that your last name is Kaddiddlehopper and you live on Primrose Lane in Anytown, USA, your spouse is named Val and your adorable little children, Eunice and Petunia and Egbert all go to the Fartsmeller Elementary around the corner on East Toenail Blvd. They don't need to know that you work at Bunga Bunga Electronics as a Quality Control Supervisor, what your exact salary is and when you go on vacation, who your mother is, and where you bank and have a mortgage--yet this kind of stuff I see here all too often.
People here often get too detailed in their revelations. It's not needed. You can give people a sense of your reality without getting deep down in the weeds, and you'll protect your family as well.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)My name is anonymous. And I don't post very private stuff, it's just not something I would do. I don't think people should post real private stuff about their personal lives, because as I have noticed, the info is not just used by right wingers on other sites, but it is also used "as a weapon" by other duers themselves, if they happen to not like another duer. But that is my own opinion, others feel differently.
I tend to post about things that I don't care about others knowing about, mainly trivial happenings when it comes to my personal life, if I do post it at all.
Let's just say I am very aware and conscious of privacy, and it is part of my nature. I may be even somewhat too secretive by nature, to be honest.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)watch what we post. If we didn't, given that juries obviously don't work and hosts, as we know are utterly useless, this place would be overrun with drivel, tasteless idiocy, and such.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)It might matter to some other people, though.
You are, as always, absolutely free to post as you please. I wouldn't have it any other way, and have nothing to say about it anyhow.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)hostility.
Nah, what am I saying. THAT could never happen. Not here.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)On Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:55 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
I'm so glad we have volunteer net nannies reminding us to
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4724086
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
"volunteer net nannies." We need to stop allowing the name calling.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:00 PM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is a childish post, but not, I think, worth hiding. The person it was aimed at shrugged it off as pointless.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The whole post is rude.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sarcasm really doesn't come over well on screen.
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)I'm surprised it wasn't a shut-out.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)But then again, I'm occasionally ridiculed for some of my posts here by DU'ers, as well. It's the internet, not a book club.
I do advise anyone who is thinking about running for office not to post anything on any forum or site that could be used against you. Unfortunately, that does limit your speech quite a bit.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)to proceed with caution when posting in public places.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Nobody who's been really passionate about politics will stand a chance. Nobody who's had strong opinions and been willing to express them. The only people with a chance of getting elected will be those who spend their late teens and twenties not having an original thought, not expressing themselves, not fighting for causes.
It will make our political system even suckier than it already is.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)look at how the drug wars have screwed people over who grew up in the 60's and 70's. Essentially you have to either have been an absolute straight, or lie your butt off. (or have the BFEE covering up your coke use). I'm thinking this is how we ended up with people like Louie Goehmert and Newt Gingrich in office.
I wish it weren't so. The average voter seems too shallow to be able to distinguish between personal vices and ability to lead. JFK wouldn't have stood a chance were he running now.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)from celebrities should have taught them that. However, they still say stupid things there.
One thing about the Internet, one's stupidity can linger for a lot longer than it used to.
Response to n2doc (Reply #14)
Cali_Democrat This message was self-deleted by its author.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)and I was in it for about six months.
Didn't get very much feedback, so I sorta dropped it.
I don't see it any more though.
That's the way it was though http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=209x1504
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)show up on their front page. I thought I was being stalked do I posted something that most major outlets would ignore and waited. Less than five hours later it was on Huff PO.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)visit DU a lot? you'll get DU as part of your search results. It's part of their search filtering based on user history. (And Google indexes everything that doesn't have an exclusion in a robots.txt file, it's what makes search engines possible in the first place.)
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)If you're on DU a lot, your google search will show many DU postings as the first result.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)And decide for you what your top hits should be. So if you visit a lot of political sites your top hits will come from those. If you are always on cooking it will lean towards that. etc...
Try the same search at https://startpage.com/ and see if the same results come up.
Rex
(65,616 posts)However your name seems to be very popular.
http://www.oldelmtree.com/showthread.php?tid=3916
Interesting post.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)I was specifically responding to something posted there about me. As I said in the post, I go places where people talk about me sometimes.
It's only mildly interesting.
What's more interesting is how many different people use the same screen name as mine, with different capitalization, sometimes.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Interesting in that some of the other usernames look awful familiar.
think
(11,641 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Type in your Google search box:
"Bare Naked Working Girls"
...and let me know what comes up first in your hits.
I believe that Google somehow checks our posting history, search history, cookies, and whatever else available
and organizes results around other factors that are unique to your computer.
Are you leaving DU open in one tab, and Google searching in another tab?
That might tell Google to search site DU first.
"Bare Naked Working Girls... Up Close & Personal" was a Photo OP about our Bee Colonies I posted to DU in 2007.
When I Google Search for "Bare Naked Working Girls" the first hit in MY Google is to my post at DU from 2007.
Every Google Search I do almost always comes up with hits at DU at the top of the list.
That can NOT be true for everybody's computer in the country.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)It generally blocks Google Analytics from running; maybe that would help.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)This feature is helpful in my searches.
There is nothing on my computer,
or anything I have posted to DU that I would mind being published in the local news paper.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I do the same with grocery store rewards cards; I use an out-of-date phone number so my buying habits get scrambled with some other person's.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)In fact, we cannot reliably curtail the government spying without severely throttling private corporations from doing so because they will find ways of using that information no matter how illegal is to mine.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)To which the answer is (IMO) "I do."
In our current environment, various corporate entities collect data on my behavior (on the Internet, shopping for groceries, applying for credit, etc.) then turn around and sell it to other corporations without my knowledge or consent. In the case of credit reporting, this can have serious consequences for me if someone makes a mistake. I should have a say in what happens to information about me.
We need two bills: a Consumer Privacy Act, and a Citizen Privacy Act, that prevents opportunistic and unwarranted data gathering.
hunter
(38,311 posts)I don't know who Leann Rimes is or what she has in common with your bees.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... and your DU post came up first. (whew). I was damn well worried about what might have come up!!!!
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Two hits from DU were the only results from that search, with the quotation marks. That's because the phrase is unique.
Since a lot of my work involves SEO, I'm very familiar with how DU works.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...or is this because Google "knows" where we spend our time?
I just can't imagine that in a Web full of Porno "Bare Naked Working Girls",
a BeeKeeping Photo Post on DU from 2007 would be the first hit.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Apparently, that particular phrase is unique to your posts. In quotes, Google will find it, and no others. That only the DU posts showed up means that there are no other instances of that phrase anywhere else.
Uniqueness trumps all if you put your search between quotation marks. Search without them, and you'll get different results. I just checked, and your posts are nowhere near the top of the search results.
It's the quotation marks, which tell Google to look for that exact phrase and no others.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Should still work because when you use double quotes it is a literal search. The reason it is first is likely because people using the literal search clicked on it more. Probably mostly DUers, but then the occasional porn searcher would see it and wonder why a site called DU would have such a result.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Whereas startpage only finds your old beekeeping thread, and it's like the 7th or 8th hit.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,174 posts)FWIW, my name is not actuall Tommy Carcetti and I am not the overwhelmed Mayor of Baltimore with higher aspirations towards the Governor's Mansion.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)My real name is the same as an actor. Since he's trying to get attention, googling my name leads to a whole lot of pages that are not me.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I am disappointed!
And I bet you are too!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Fuck. What do I do now?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Where have we heard that before?
Oh, yeah:
Ari Fleischer, warning Americans to "watch what they say, watch what they do." Recorded at White House press briefing, Sept. 26, 2001.
http://www.democracynow.org/2003/7/15/the_greatest_hits_of_ari_fleischer
BTW: That search function that turns up so many hits on DemocraticUnderground.com also is how DUers spread the word about news and information worth knowing from democratic and Democratic perspectives.
Like:
hunter
(38,311 posts)So I have to say it:
Ari Fleischer blows weasels.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)You have written it.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)And how many well known people who use their real names, posts on DU? This is yet another call out thread by someone who thinks they're so clever, but isn't.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)because it was about a rock star -- it even beat out Rolling Stone, Yahoo, a newspaper, and a local TV affiliate! Under Yahoo and Bing, however, it comes out at the top page 2, after all the other "legitimate" music publications. Typing in my DU name in Google puts my journal on the top page.
rocktivity
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)it might be picked up and go viral and I might get my 15 minutes?
TygrBright
(20,758 posts)...and it gets lots of reply posts, and subthreads with "Eric Cantor has sex with sheep" in post titles and bodies in those subthreads, not only will it be a Google result, it might even make it into other searches using those terms, like:
Eric Cantor sex
Eric Cantor sheep
sheep sex with Eric
Eric Cantor sheepish
and more!
helpfully
Bright
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)That would be, like really wrong, because I'm sure Eric Cantor would deny that Eric Cantor has sex with sheep.
TygrBright
(20,758 posts)For one thing, every sheep I've ever known has better taste than that.
They all think he's ba-aa-aa-aad news.
piously,
Bright
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)You should be ashamed of yourself, saying that Eric Cantor has sex with sheep.
I would never post such scurrilous lies such as "Eric Cantor has sex with sheep".
You did that full well knowing that Google will now put "Eric Cantor has sex with sheep" closer to the top of a search, because you posted "Eric Cantor has sex with sheep".
You are truly a horrible person. No way would I ever post "Eric Cantor has sex with sheep".
druidity33
(6,446 posts)i had no idea there was even a hint of a rumor that Eric Cantor has sex with sheep! It's just unlikely that Eric Cantor has sex with sheep, I mean he seems like such a nice young man. I just don't understand why Eric Cantor has sex with sheep. They seem like such nice animals...
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I heard it right here, just a minute ago.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)My empty journal is the first result. My Flickr account is there, but everything else isn't me. Yes, even the Match.com account isn't me. I am actually in Detroit Mi., not in CA. The other posts on other boards are not me either.
I guess I just picked to common a name.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)There is a town named "Kaleva" here in Michigan and almost all search results had something to do with that place. At least on the first 5 pages I looked at.
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)When I wrote my truth about Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R), I intended for it to be carried far and wide, and it was. Her Wikipedia page even was changed because of it. lol.
Recently I have been having looks at the CC site and I am amused to discover how closely they monitor DU. They even collect histories and photos of DU posters. I have been visiting DU daily now for 13 years and they know far more about DU members personal lives than I do. Now there's a bunch of ne'er-do-wells for you.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Using SEO strategies in your posts can certainly get them high in search results.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)So....think of the goats.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Who knew?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)These idiots are not amused with this thread. We have hurt their feelings
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Again members of "conservative cave are having sex with goats"
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'm sure they know this by heart
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The thread on the conservative cave on this thread is up to six pages and their feelings are very very hurt. They are evidently proud of their goats and resent us mentioning these carnal relationships with their goats.
Seriously, these idiots are trying to call me out and want me to engage with them. The conservative cave posters do not realize that I find their posts to be very funny. These idiots are so stupid that they do not realize that they are a source of amusement.
I am really enjoying the posts on the conservative cave. These idiots are really funny even if they do not understand why I am laughing at them.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)search term. If I were a goatfucker, I would not Streisand it....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
The nosy parker who is my personal troll at CC has followed me from website to website..even offering to give an ex-boyfriend the blowjob of his life if he would just spill the beans....
Apparently, he spilled, but she didn't get the beans.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I thought it was horses too. Guess they finally figured out that neigh means neigh.
But just so we're clear, people on conservative cave are fucking goats.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'm a pretty open person, but I'm damn sure not going to give any RWNJ's clues on how to harass me in RL. If they want to mock me on the internet, fine, I don't care. The really determined sociopaths can find you somehow in RL (4chan is famous for that).
Thanks again. A good tip to keep in mind.
Steve
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)but are not foolproof. Truly.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)After 4chan manhunt, cat-kicker slapped with animal cruelty charges
http://www.dailydot.com/news/walter-easley-cat-kicker-animal-cruelty/
4chan = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan#Media_attention
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)There are lots of people trying to figure out who various people are who are active on the Internet. I've had incidents in my own private life because of it. I have since abandoned all efforts to remain anonymous, and such stuff has ceased. But that's a different issue, altogether.
Few people actually manage to maintain their anonymity if someone is seriously trying to find out who they are. People leave clues all over the place, without realizing it.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'm glad I'm so boring. Some of our more "high profile" DU'ers have more cause to be a tad concerned. I'm sure Skinner, Elad and EarlG have some stories, probably some rather unpleasant ones.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Nice try, Dr. Forrester.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)discovered by others causing him to sputter things like 'I was tricking them' and 'I had bad information' and that sort of thing?
This is not news. My DU identity is not used anywhere else and is obviously not my real name. I have no nasty bigoted past to fear and I don't give a shit if others read something I wrote here.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Be careful.
I find this to be absolutely despicable.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)that pretty sad, actually.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)that should have been followed by the OP, including thinking before hitting the post button.
Unless it was intentional.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)I considered that, and decided that the cautionary advice was worth posting.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)to a large segment of this community, and posted it anyway?
How honorable.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)As for being hurtful to a large segment of the community, that's never my intention. I'm talking only about this OP today. I certainly did not intend to be hurtful to any community with this OP. It was cautionary information.
Have I made grievous errors in the past? Yes, I have, and I have learned from them. I think most of us can say that about ourselves. Learning from mistakes is part of life.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)is always more important than people's feelings.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)How dishonorable.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)and I doubt that you know what we're talking about.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)You brought up the OP as if there was something something wrong in it. I frankly don't see what has got you in such a twist. Entirely possible that you really didn't mean the OP, but then that would mean that you were not talking about what you actually posted.
So maybe you should have thought about what you posted, no? Maybe you can explain what has gotten you so irked.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)BNW sure as shit knows. You jumped in without a clue. I don't owe you an explanation. Why don't you ask MM?
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Whatever. Maybe some deep cleansing breaths? Breath into a paper bag?
pintobean
(18,101 posts)I told you who to ask. Anyone else trying to explain it risks hidden posts. It's happened before and I'm not doing that for you. There are no links to prove anything, just deleted posts in a forum that no longer exists. So, if you want to know, ask MM to tell you all about it. Good luck.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Maybe I should have voted to hide your post.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)And, I'm not holding a grudge. Others do, and this thread made me understand why. There is no remorse. It's a vary rare person who can forgive when there is no remorse.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Sure sounds like you hold on to things. Then again, it's nearly impossible to read emotion from text. So maybe I can't read you any more than you can read other people...
pintobean
(18,101 posts)or juror comments. 0-6 alone should tell you something. It seems like you just don't want to understand. Maybe it's just an act, but I couldn't guess a motive.
Have a nice evening.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The OP was nothing but a long list of things he doesn't like....many of which he could find in a mirror.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)to said that was incorrect enough for me to post..
Probably was about hypocrisy, but I've slept since then. Since you seem to be dredging up grudge material (after 15 months have passed, what else would be your motive?) I'll just let you stew.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)who think there is privacy on the Internet...
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)One group of idiots had fun mocking one of my threads where I discussed the death of my bearded collie. You have to admire the total lack of class of these idiots.
Later this group took offense when I pointed out that conservatives lack the intelligence to have a sense of humor.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)A waste of time for them, so I guess they have nothing better to do.
I checked, and yes, one of them is mocking this thread, even as it continues. Funny, isn't it?
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)I am amused by the posts on these boards. These idiots do not realize that we are laughing at them
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)take it much further than that sometimes. Then, it's not funny at all.
But sites like that aren't really what this thread is about, primarily. Sites like that play a role in spreading unfortunate choices people make when posting things, though.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)These idiots are really funny and it is clear that we have hurt their feelings. They are claiming that there are a number of DUers on their board and that they do not ban DUers. I do not believe this crap but I am amused by how badly their feelings are hurt.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)and recognized that they aren't too bright.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)I found their board to be very funny because these posters are so very stupid.
pecwae
(8,021 posts)but why spend so much time reading what conservablogs are writing? There are thousands of other ways to find laughs. There are thousands of other ways to use the time and energy that's otherwise being wasted. You're giving away your personal power.
It's like posters here who put others on ignore, then log out to read what they say. Being so obsessed with what someone/group, whom one claims to abhor, is writing about gives control to them. They want a rise and they're getting it. They want to manipulate, and they're succeeding. They want to control, and they're doing so even in a small way. Why satisfy those cravings?
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)First, you can look at the conservative cave site without the need to take a shower. I have trouble looking at the free republic site without needing a shower.
Second, the posters on the conservative cave are really really stupid and are fun to laugh at. Right now, the posters on the conservative cave are stalking or targeting me because of my posts on this board. I have been invited or dared to join their silly little site which is really very amusing.
Third, I enjoy watching the reactions of the idiots on the conservative cave when DUers laugh at their posts. The conservative cave idiots are too clueless to realize that they have nothing to contribute to the discussions on this board and they really do not understand the issues being discussed. The reactions of the members of the conservative cave to the posts on this thread are very very funny. The idiots on the conservative cave do not realize how funny their posts are and why I find them to be so amusing.
Finally, I agree that it would be a waste of time to register for that board. The posters on that board are simply too stupid and poorly read to have a discussion with. The concept of debating the idiots on the conservative cave on any issue would be a complete waste of time.
pengillian101
(2,351 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The idiots on the conservative cave are really very funny. They are sad that I will not waste my time and come and play on their board. Debating conservatives on this board would be a total waste of time. Here are the rules of debate for the conservative cave
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Oh, well...
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Someone finally used google and found one of the explanations of my screen name but it is clear that these idiots have never read the Silmarillion. There are too many big words in this work for these idiots.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Total lack of class? That's putting it mildly.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Think about it. There's 2,405,518,376 internet users in the world, per this: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm
It only takes one sociopath to ruin your day. Even if that statistic is wrong, it only takes ONE. There's some really um not very nice people on the net.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Thank goodness for private, closed boards on Facebook for my friends and I to post stuff.
I still think that they are assholes and have a brand new hatred for republicans today.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The lack of class of these cretins is amusing
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)SMH...just don't get it at all...
I wonder how they are raising their children. I guess to hate and ridicule and bully and mock and make fun of other human beings. God help our nation and world. It's really, really sad.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Someone managed to find a post of mine from last year when I posted that my ex was released from the hospital with 9 scripts.
Who the fuck has the time to find this stuff? I already feel like I wasted 10 minutes of my life by going over there.
And who the fuck has a section on their board just to ridicule another board?
BTW, my ex is no longer my ex, he's healthy again and we are rebuilding....so there!
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The idiots on the conservative cave are simply too clueless to understand why I find their posts funny.
Response to blueamy66 (Reply #78)
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stage left
(2,961 posts)I get a restaurant and a theater. You're, of course, correct about Paul Ryan.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)you'll be lost far down in the results. It's a good name for anonymity that way.
stage left
(2,961 posts)I haven't found me yet.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)If you're feeling lonely, though, you can Google: "stage left" democraticunderground.com
Just use the quotes the way I did. Google will find you, then.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)I made this comment responding to the word "freeper" the other day:
'I've done some googling of the usernames and owner names to try to get some back stories about what is being posted here. All I got to say is 'holy shit there is some freaky fucking things being said about DU and peeps here' at other sites.'
I wasn't kidding one darn bit. There's some absolute mongrels out there, and the posts on DU are fodder.
I'll say this again, if you get frustrated about the posts here 'things could be a lot worse.'
K&R
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Could have fooled me.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)who has said that in those exact words.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Lets remember to use the word overrated with Paul Ryan as often as possible
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)us are aware and it's the reason some do post o DU instead of Facebook or other such media. When national radio and TV talk show hosts at times refer to posts on DU, you can be pretty sure it has a wide audience.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)I use that knowledge sometimes, too.
DU is a good outlet. If a poster is aware of SEO and how to use it well, DU can springboard things pretty well. Google loves DU, like it does many popular websites, and sends its robots here on a continuous basis. Anything posted here is in Googles database within about five minutes.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)But what you say is true.
Though I would be more worried about the large amount of juvenile, hostile and corporatist posts on here than one angry outburst by one person.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)who may not think about such things. Anyone who is very familiar with how the internet works already understands it, so it's not aimed at any particular person. The association you have made is coincidental, although I know what the association is.
Ms. Toad
(34,064 posts)and until very recently kept DU isolated from anywhere else I appeared online (as a rule, I use separate logins everywhere - so I never use my facebook account to login to any other online account, for example - but I have been even more careful with DU; I also have separate photo hosting accounts which I use solely for DU, etc.) I know that someone intent on finding out who I am could still do so, based on the content of what I post. Some of it is relatively unique. I'm just making something beyond trivial.
I decided very recently to post something here I had posted elsewhere under a different name, knowing it would be trivial to connect the two for the very reason you note. Using phrases from that post (or the other places it is posted), only one or the other is pulled up in each search, but never both. Very interesting.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)If you hotlink to photos in them, the URL can be seen easily. That's something people often don't realize and it's one of the commonest methods used by people who are trying to figure out who someone is.
Ms. Toad
(34,064 posts)is a dedicated account for DU, using my name.
For posting in any online community which is gated, I use my website.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd imagine that Will is aware of this, that he has zero problem letting others outside DU know his opinions, and accepts that as part and parcel of his craft. I think Will realizes he's not anonymous, and doesn't mind others reading his opinion pieces... regardless of whether those pieces raise the hackles of the dogmatic mind, or simply gets forgotten as quickly as its read.
(I'm not clever enough to maintain the fictional pretense this was directed at anyone other than Will, though I imagine it will be rationalized otherwise as a wonderfully straight-laced patina of PSA sincerity...)
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)He's a very smart person. This was not directed at him.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)on the bottom of your page. No need to Google to prove your point.
Truth be told, I didn't do either, I was just making a point
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)It's here on DU. I posted it. I know that it's public.
Thanks for the viral kick.
William769
(55,145 posts)Let's just say there is a website that we don't speak of, someone took one of my OP's from here and had a field day with it, showing the moron's for what they really are.
They even quoted the OP correctly, but their comments don't even come close to what was written. You would think I would be mad but I'm not, all I can do is pray for their poor wretched souls.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)That's putting it as kindly as I possibly can.
William769
(55,145 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Must suck for them.
William769
(55,145 posts)Skittles
(153,150 posts)who gives a shit what mental midgets think?
William769
(55,145 posts)But you are right.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Like I said, karma will be unkind to them.
MFM008
(19,805 posts)google that.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Put it in quotes.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Rumsfeld is indeed a shaved ape
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)polynomial
(750 posts)Thats exactly what I expected plus get the chance to see reactions and to have time to reflect in hind sight about my own writing. From my view and for those that want to sharpen their skills need this to happen.
It actually helps me understand myself in this time of change, with that said anyone who does not consider that is a very narrow minded person.
Besides anything written always the potential to be perfected to be better or realized to be incongruent with the social issues of the day. Or perhaps to be retracted, the one percent always have had the opportunity do it generously, however the one percent likely feel a new wave to compete, its called the first amendment applied to the Internet.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)But that one's probably been posted before.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Switch to Google Images and search "Flying Squirrel DUzy"
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)"I can't be contributing to driving down Democratic enthusiasm because I only talk about how sucky this President, and Democrats, are in the company of other "progressives/liberals" posts/posters are ill-informed and/or myopic?
lumpy
(13,704 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)not much else..
ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I get
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Conservatives and outright whack jobs have 90% of the Internet. I guess they find the appearance of normal people with real friends and lives who take the time to understand facts before forming an opinion to be a strange and curious thing.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)They sent one of their idiots over to attempt to call us out. That post was juried out and the poster removed. The posts on the conservative cave site are really funny. These idiots are too stupid to understand why we are laughing at them.
When I left work the conservative cave thread on this thread was 2 pages and now their thread is 5 pages and counting. These idiots are having a very amusing meltdown.
Are we sure that the conservative cave site is not a satire site? The posts are so very funny. Surely no one could be that stupid in real life. No true conservative is intelligent enough to have a sense of humor.
I am sorry if we hurt the feelings of any of the goats who dating/seeing members of the conservative cave. These poor goats have suffered enough already
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)You have to admire "smart conservatives" who would actually spend most of their day (in between Ann Coulter jack off sessions and probably getting some government assistance they've rationalized in their mind really isn't government assistance for them) obsessing over a group of people they claim are so stupid, irrelevant, DUmmies, etc...etc. I mean, seriously....dance puppet dance already.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The idiots in the conservative cave are so clueless that they think that their comments on their own board have an effect on what is posted on this board and that DUers care about what they think. It is really very cute. These idiots lack any self awareness or do not realize that the only reason people like me go to their boards is to laugh at them. The idiots posting on the conservative cave are still really upset that one of their fellow idiots posted on this board and was tombstoned in short order.
The idiots on the conservative cave actually think that they are capable of understanding the issues discussed on DU and that they can contribute to these discussions. It is really very cute that they think that they can contribute to any discussion or that anyone would care about their opinions.
I really enjoy laughing at the posts on this board. I really hope that these idiots decide to keep on posting on the conservative cave so that I can continue laughing at their posts.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Shit, shouldn't the idiot who pays server and hosting fees have thought about that before they wasted money setting up a message board to mimic DU???
My guess is when you're a right-wing moron, there's only one way to deal with anything....hide under your bed and cry about mean old Obama and libruls ruining your life until mommy comes down to the basement to either give you some Spaghetti-O's or tell you to shut the fuck up and rake the backyard.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The conservative cave thread on this thread is up to 7 pages and I really hurt their feelings. These posts are really very funny. No one on this board cares what a group of silly conservative post on their board. The posters on the conservative cave are simply too stupid to have opinions that any one would care about and yet they believe that DUers care about their board. This is so cute and silly that it is funny
BTW, these idiots are so ignorant that they have no idea as to the derivation of my screen name. Reading books without pictures is beyond the ability of the posters on the conservative cave. The fact that the idiots on the conservative cave think that that DUers care about their opinions is really funny
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)It's best to let them stew in their FAUX News bubble, ignorant to real world, and their own mental defects.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)The idiots on the conservative cave really want me or someone else to go to their board to argue with them. Posting on that board would be a complete waste of time. However, I am not the subject of a number of posts on the conservative cave and these posts are extremely funny to me.
I have been in meetings today and have not looked at their website in a couple of hours. The posts on the conservative cave concerning me really amuse me. I have really hurt their feelings and so the posters on the conservative cave have to respond which provides me with even more amusement.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Their thread concerning this thread is up to nine pages and they are upset that I will not join their board. It is really very funny
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)I'd seriously like to hear from someone that did not know this !
If you are one, please respond here.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)They are probably too embarrassed to say it. A lot of people are ignorant about Google and other search engines.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)it has received, I think a lot of people learned something from it. A reminder that what we post on the Internet often has longer legs than we think is never a bad idea.
That was the reason I began the thread, despite opinions to the contrary. It was prompted by another thread, but was not about that other thread or the person who posted it. Like many of my thread starters, something that occurred prompts me to post something much more general.
Not everyone on DU is an Internet expert. Not everyone on DU knows exactly how deeply Google looks into every website on the Internet. Sometimes, a reminder is appropriate, as I felt it was in this case.
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nilesobek
(1,423 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)User-agent: *
Disallow: /
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)My impression is that among many other things, DU is an activist site where there is some hope our discussions and ideas will have an impression on others.
I think it is a feature, not a bug that things written here are prominently featured on search engines.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)The commentary and discussions on DU represent our opinions. In most cases, those opinions are very worthwhile and worthy of being widely disseminated. Many people post here with the expectation that what is posted here is seen by a wider audience than just DU. If DU used a robots.txt file to block Google from putting DU threads in their database, DU would be useless as a venue for discussing political issues and spreading those discussions.
Part of the reason that DU has any influence at all is that it's a public forum. My OP is just there to remind people that they are writing in a public place. Even if they use screen names that are actually anonymous, what they write is attached to those screen names, and screen names are generally less anonymous than people think they are.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)rightwing sewers to read how much they hate me. Fuck them.
KauaiK
(544 posts)I just googled my screen and surprised to see my posts. I hope the NSA is enjoying the read.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)They should go out and feed the hungry like the Bible they say they believe in says.
Stalkers need to get lives. Do something positive. See above sentence.
Relevant website that has a lot to do with right speech:
www.wordscanheal.org
Words Can Heal is a national campaign to eliminate verbal violence, curb gossip and promote the healing power of words to enhance relationships at every level.
At a time when so many feel that outside events are beyond their control, we offer concrete tools and know-how to dramatically rebuild our communities and relationships through the words we speak and the way we communicate. At a time of national crisis, as we re-evaluate our lives and re-order priorities, the Words Can Heal message resonates even more forcefully.
Words Can Heal has captured the imagination and commitment of an unprecedented coalition. Our board includes the top leadership, leading diplomats, Wall Street's most influential CEO's, America's leading clergy, Hollywood celebrities and community leaders of every stripe,
including:
Tom Cruise, Goldie Hawn, Rene Russo, Senator Tom Daschle, Senator Sam Brownback, Congressman Peter Deutsch, Alan Hassenfeld, Chairman and CEO of Hasbro, Warren Weiss, Venture Partner at Charles River Ventures and Robert Schuller, Founding Pastor of Crystal Cathedral.
kickysnana
(3,908 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)My real name is Frank Drebin.
My father was Colonel Bat Guano.
One of my ancestors started the Judean Peoples' Front.
Or maybe the Peoples' Front of Judea, I'm not sure which.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)you'll find it, but just "Fuck Bush" is too general to be unique. In fact, it's probably out there a few million times already. It's a pretty commonly-used statement, to be sure.
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I said in 2003 that killing the families of heads of state without a trial was murder by our military. In spite of being quoted by every firebreathing rightwing troll on the internet, I am not in the least ashamed of having said so.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Whatdyaknow? Turns out Prosense is Obama's doppelganger according to some rightwing site! This is fun. Who should I look up next?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...please add this to your Moon List:
I hate the high humidity in July & August.
Can you do something about that too?
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)And you are responding now?
Are you taking names and making lists? Did I somehow violate a sacred DU cow a year ago? Are you using me to score points on some thread I wasn't even involved in? That my friend makes DU suck.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I was as baffled as you initially, until I checked the dates on the MM post.