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A Chicago man was killed Wednesday while protecting his only daughter during an alleged hate crime.
Fifty-nine-year-old Michael Tingling was walking his 15-year-old daughter, Masharah, home from school around 2 p.m. when he noticed Joseph Firek, 59, making inappropriate gestures towards her, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Firek approached the girl, Tingling stepped in and a fight ensued.
He was staring at me up and down, eyeballing me, Masharah said to NBC Chicago. My dad, being a father, he got protective and put me behind him and told the guy to go away.
During the altercation, Firek allegedly punched Tingling, who has a pacemaker, in the chest, causing him to go into cardiac arrest, reports the Chicago Sun-Times.
Firek allegedly used racial slurs while hitting Masharahs father.
http://thegrio.com/2014/03/22/man-dies-defending-daughter-during-alleged-hate-crime/
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts):tears:
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)A shame this was the outcome.
JI7
(89,247 posts)Warpy
(111,245 posts)He's a danger to public health and safety and needs to be off the street.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)Ever. No matter what.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)while spouting racism crap!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)However, this case was actually about a 15yo girl not being able to walk the streets without being harassed. It doesn't say the comments/actions directed toward her were racist, though they may have been. What it appears to be is another sleazoid thinking he was the shit and 15yo girl would think he was the same.
I do agree this asshole needs to go away for long time.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Would the sleazoid have thought that if the girl weren't black? There's this belief that women of color are "open for business," so to speak; particularly black and latina women are characterized as "promiscuous" by racist creepshows.
Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)Without seeing the nature of his "propositions" it is possible it was also racially motivated. Either way, it was disgusting and didn't need to end with a girl losing her father because of a creep.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)the idea that all black people are dangerously promiscuous has been intentionally spread by bigots for most of the nation's history. "See, they're not like us!"
A father protecting his daughter would still not be seen as having an equal emotional/protective reaction by many I have known and tried to get away from especially family.
JI7
(89,247 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)she was not able to walk the streets while being a 15 year old girl and black without being harassed.
Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)I didn't see anything indicating the initial "contact" was because of her race, though certainly a possibility. It sounded as if she was being "propositioned." Some have a negative association with the promiscuousness of minority women. The fact that the man used racial slurs in his attack on the father would indicate he is probably a racist.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Right now I can't say what I am really thinking about this ...
Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)I meant to say some see minority women as promiscuous simply because they are a minority. It is a nasty stereotype which actually afflicts both sexes in minority groups, though historically, black men are usually the target of that particular stereotype.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Would you please explain what you mean by that?
Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)It should read: some associate minority women with being promiscuous because they are a minority. It is that age-old stereotype of white = chaste, and non-white = hedonistic. Someone else brought up that the girl was approached because she was black and I was saying it is possible because of nasty stereotypes about the supposed promiscuity of minorities.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)thanks for the reply.
It's really sad that such stereotypes are not only still around, but also often reinforced in the media.
Number23
(24,544 posts)and damn near puritanical people I know. A man has to declare undying devotion before they even THINK about going there with him. The few (and I mean the VERY few) anomalies to this that I've known in my many years have been viewed (often unfairly) as unsavory aberrations.
But perhaps this was all in response to the "non-white = promiscuous" theme. Over compensation.
1000words
(7,051 posts)It's being interpreted in a way I doubt you intended
=======================================
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS
The following sentence is inappropriate in any context: "Some have a negative association with the promiscuousness of minority women"
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:57 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think it's fairly clear the poster does not assert such "promiscuity" on his or her own part but is referring to beliefs held by racists. BtA should probably clarify that, though.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I do believe the poster was trying to say that some people associate being a minority with promiscuity and that this is unfortunate. However, I will vote to hide it because the poster never came back to explain.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think the poster's wording is the culprit here. "Some racists believe minority woman are promiscuous." would have been a better way to phrase this. I hope the poster will edit so she or he does not appear to agree with this "negative association."
Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)I would alter my post but inevitably someone would scream I was trying to get around the rules by editing a post I know was juried (since it can't be juried again).
Juror #6 explained it better: ""Some racists believe minority woman are promiscuous.""
As for juror #5, if you know what I was trying to say, no matter how poorly worded, why would you hide it because I didn't respond? I wasn't around. I just sat down, saw the posts and immediately responded.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,951 posts)I should have re-read, but often, those really early morning posts don't get the once over or I would have seen it, but I also know what I was trying to say and sometimes it doesn't match what is actually written. I can certainly see how some might think I was making that assumption, especially if it had been a stand-alone post.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)That's the only possible way out of this for him. I hope a jury doesn't buy it.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Rest in peace, Mr. Tingling.
mopinko
(70,078 posts)here is a local article-http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140320/rogers-park/retired-boxer-protecting-his-daughter-dies-after-rogers-park-fight
>>please note from the bottom of the article-
The Tingling family is seeking donations to help cover funeral costs. Contributions can be sent to the "Mike Tingling Funeral Family Fund" at Bank of America.
the really sad thing about this is that this IS very tolerant, integrated neighborhood.
we do have a few more unbalanced people than is the norm, tho. popular hood for group homes of all sorts. most go completely unnoticed. (not to say that this is connected to this crime, i'm just saying that whacked out people on the street is pretty normal here.)
JI7
(89,247 posts)he didn't try to start a fight. he just told him to get away from her and the guy went attacked him physically.
siligut
(12,272 posts)The guy belongs in a cage.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)The only good thing is this girl knows how much her father loved her.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)NickB79
(19,233 posts)RIP, Mr. Tingling. You were one of the good ones. You died showing the rest of us what it means to be a "real" man: one who is willing to give everything in defense of his loved ones.