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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 01:25 AM Mar 2014

Man dies defending daughter during alleged hate crime



A Chicago man was killed Wednesday while protecting his only daughter during an alleged hate crime.

Fifty-nine-year-old Michael Tingling was walking his 15-year-old daughter, Masharah, home from school around 2 p.m. when he noticed Joseph Firek, 59, making inappropriate gestures towards her, according to the Chicago Tribune.

Firek approached the girl, Tingling stepped in and a fight ensued.

“He was staring at me up and down, eyeballing me,” Masharah said to NBC Chicago. “My dad, being a father, he got protective and put me behind him and told the guy to go away.”

During the altercation, Firek allegedly punched Tingling, who has a pacemaker, in the chest, causing him to go into cardiac arrest, reports the Chicago Sun-Times.

Firek allegedly used racial slurs while hitting Masharah’s father.

http://thegrio.com/2014/03/22/man-dies-defending-daughter-during-alleged-hate-crime/
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Man dies defending daughter during alleged hate crime (Original Post) MrScorpio Mar 2014 OP
So terribly sad. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #1
A Good Man, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #2
the guy has a long criminal record and was on parole when he did this JI7 Mar 2014 #3
Good, maybe this time they'll keep him in until he's an old man Warpy Mar 2014 #4
There are some people who don't deserve to be released JJChambers Mar 2014 #22
Enjoy prison, asshole. This is a Freeper's hero. Killed a minority in front of their child Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #5
Blacks cannot walk the streets in safety. Guy should go away forever. Disgusting and Horrible! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #6
Possibly. There certainly are cases where being black is dangerous. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #7
Question is... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #10
That's a very real possibility. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #13
Not just women-- xfundy Mar 2014 #14
i think her being black is why he did it even if she was with her dad JI7 Mar 2014 #17
+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #20
Let's refine that... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #11
We don't know if she was the target because she was also black. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #12
Excuse me, "association with the promiscuousness of minoruty women?" WTF!! kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #19
It was poorly worded. Apologies. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #25
"Some have a negative association with the promiscuousness of minority women." redqueen Mar 2014 #21
It was poor wording on my part and not re-reading what I wrote. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #27
Yep, I figured it was a case of poor wording... redqueen Mar 2014 #32
And what's so funny about that stereotype is that black girls/women are some of the most chaste Number23 Mar 2014 #36
You might want to clarify your statement 1000words Mar 2014 #23
I addressed it to the two posters who asked about it. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #28
Poorly written, but I knew what you meant 1000words Mar 2014 #29
Yeah, it was poorly written. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #30
Sadly the guy will get a good lawyer and claim he was attacked first davidpdx Mar 2014 #8
very very sad case for the girl and her family steve2470 Mar 2014 #9
I can't help but feel awful for this fella and his loved ones. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #15
this was right around the corner from my house. mopinko Mar 2014 #16
sexist and racist , and the thing is the dad did the safest thing anyone could do in this situation JI7 Mar 2014 #18
What sort of cretin acts like that toward a 15 yr old in front of her father? siligut Mar 2014 #24
Jebus...how awful... joeybee12 Mar 2014 #26
Sounds like a warehouse is in this thug's future. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #31
Heros among us NickB79 Mar 2014 #33
:( shenmue Mar 2014 #34
Horrible on so many levels etherealtruth Mar 2014 #35

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
4. Good, maybe this time they'll keep him in until he's an old man
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 01:57 AM
Mar 2014

He's a danger to public health and safety and needs to be off the street.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
5. Enjoy prison, asshole. This is a Freeper's hero. Killed a minority in front of their child
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:31 AM
Mar 2014

while spouting racism crap!

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
7. Possibly. There certainly are cases where being black is dangerous.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:55 AM
Mar 2014

However, this case was actually about a 15yo girl not being able to walk the streets without being harassed. It doesn't say the comments/actions directed toward her were racist, though they may have been. What it appears to be is another sleazoid thinking he was the shit and 15yo girl would think he was the same.

I do agree this asshole needs to go away for long time.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
10. Question is...
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:50 AM
Mar 2014

Would the sleazoid have thought that if the girl weren't black? There's this belief that women of color are "open for business," so to speak; particularly black and latina women are characterized as "promiscuous" by racist creepshows.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
13. That's a very real possibility.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:05 AM
Mar 2014

Without seeing the nature of his "propositions" it is possible it was also racially motivated. Either way, it was disgusting and didn't need to end with a girl losing her father because of a creep.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
14. Not just women--
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:38 AM
Mar 2014

the idea that all black people are dangerously promiscuous has been intentionally spread by bigots for most of the nation's history. "See, they're not like us!"

A father protecting his daughter would still not be seen as having an equal emotional/protective reaction by many I have known and tried to get away from — especially family.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
11. Let's refine that...
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:51 AM
Mar 2014

she was not able to walk the streets while being a 15 year old girl and black without being harassed.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
12. We don't know if she was the target because she was also black.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:03 AM
Mar 2014

I didn't see anything indicating the initial "contact" was because of her race, though certainly a possibility. It sounded as if she was being "propositioned." Some have a negative association with the promiscuousness of minority women. The fact that the man used racial slurs in his attack on the father would indicate he is probably a racist.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
19. Excuse me, "association with the promiscuousness of minoruty women?" WTF!!
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:13 PM
Mar 2014

Right now I can't say what I am really thinking about this ...

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
25. It was poorly worded. Apologies.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:17 PM
Mar 2014

I meant to say some see minority women as promiscuous simply because they are a minority. It is a nasty stereotype which actually afflicts both sexes in minority groups, though historically, black men are usually the target of that particular stereotype.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
21. "Some have a negative association with the promiscuousness of minority women."
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:28 PM
Mar 2014

Would you please explain what you mean by that?

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
27. It was poor wording on my part and not re-reading what I wrote.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:21 PM
Mar 2014

It should read: some associate minority women with being promiscuous because they are a minority. It is that age-old stereotype of white = chaste, and non-white = hedonistic. Someone else brought up that the girl was approached because she was black and I was saying it is possible because of nasty stereotypes about the supposed promiscuity of minorities.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
32. Yep, I figured it was a case of poor wording...
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:53 PM
Mar 2014

thanks for the reply.

It's really sad that such stereotypes are not only still around, but also often reinforced in the media.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
36. And what's so funny about that stereotype is that black girls/women are some of the most chaste
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:15 PM
Mar 2014

and damn near puritanical people I know. A man has to declare undying devotion before they even THINK about going there with him. The few (and I mean the VERY few) anomalies to this that I've known in my many years have been viewed (often unfairly) as unsavory aberrations.

But perhaps this was all in response to the "non-white = promiscuous" theme. Over compensation.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
23. You might want to clarify your statement
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:03 PM
Mar 2014

It's being interpreted in a way I doubt you intended

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REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

The following sentence is inappropriate in any context: "Some have a negative association with the promiscuousness of minority women"

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:57 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think it's fairly clear the poster does not assert such "promiscuity" on his or her own part but is referring to beliefs held by racists. BtA should probably clarify that, though.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I do believe the poster was trying to say that some people associate being a minority with promiscuity and that this is unfortunate. However, I will vote to hide it because the poster never came back to explain.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think the poster's wording is the culprit here. "Some racists believe minority woman are promiscuous." would have been a better way to phrase this. I hope the poster will edit so she or he does not appear to agree with this "negative association."

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
28. I addressed it to the two posters who asked about it.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:26 PM
Mar 2014

I would alter my post but inevitably someone would scream I was trying to get around the rules by editing a post I know was juried (since it can't be juried again).

Juror #6 explained it better: ""Some racists believe minority woman are promiscuous.""

As for juror #5, if you know what I was trying to say, no matter how poorly worded, why would you hide it because I didn't respond? I wasn't around. I just sat down, saw the posts and immediately responded.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
30. Yeah, it was poorly written.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:33 PM
Mar 2014

I should have re-read, but often, those really early morning posts don't get the once over or I would have seen it, but I also know what I was trying to say and sometimes it doesn't match what is actually written. I can certainly see how some might think I was making that assumption, especially if it had been a stand-alone post.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. Sadly the guy will get a good lawyer and claim he was attacked first
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 03:31 AM
Mar 2014

That's the only possible way out of this for him. I hope a jury doesn't buy it.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
16. this was right around the corner from my house.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:37 AM
Mar 2014

here is a local article-http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140320/rogers-park/retired-boxer-protecting-his-daughter-dies-after-rogers-park-fight

>>please note from the bottom of the article-
The Tingling family is seeking donations to help cover funeral costs. Contributions can be sent to the "Mike Tingling Funeral Family Fund" at Bank of America.

the really sad thing about this is that this IS very tolerant, integrated neighborhood.
we do have a few more unbalanced people than is the norm, tho. popular hood for group homes of all sorts. most go completely unnoticed. (not to say that this is connected to this crime, i'm just saying that whacked out people on the street is pretty normal here.)

JI7

(89,247 posts)
18. sexist and racist , and the thing is the dad did the safest thing anyone could do in this situation
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:07 PM
Mar 2014

he didn't try to start a fight. he just told him to get away from her and the guy went attacked him physically.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
24. What sort of cretin acts like that toward a 15 yr old in front of her father?
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:14 PM
Mar 2014

The guy belongs in a cage.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
33. Heros among us
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:02 PM
Mar 2014

RIP, Mr. Tingling. You were one of the good ones. You died showing the rest of us what it means to be a "real" man: one who is willing to give everything in defense of his loved ones.

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