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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:17 PM Mar 2014

Orgies? Check. Gang bangs? Check? Circle jerks? Hey, we got nothing on circle jerks!

http://deadspin.com/georgia-mens-basketball-has-policies-against-orgies-an-1551697809


Georgia Men's Basketball Has Policies Against Orgies And Gangbangs

The Student Press Law Center published the students' findings from various colleges around the country. The majority of the available guidelines are mundane, like sternly reminding athletes not to screw around on social media—we already know people are hired to monitor that stuff—but the most interesting set of rules belonged to the Georgia Bulldogs men's basketball team, led by head coach Mark Fox. The section delves into what not to do in terms of sex.

To be clear, the section titled "Treat women with respect" mostly contains responsible, obvious advice, but some of it is weirdly detailed:

-No means no, date rape is a serious issue.

-You don't own your girlfriend.

-Stay out of gray areas, Orgies and gang bangs are inappropriate.

-Never assault or intimidate a woman.

-Birth control is your responsibility too

-Don't spend all your energy in the bed all night

-Hicky's/passion marks should not be ever noticed by coaches

-One. Not two or three girlfriends...


Ugh, Dad. It's called a hickey. (Also, college students still get hickeys?)

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Orgies? Check. Gang bangs? Check? Circle jerks? Hey, we got nothing on circle jerks! (Original Post) Scuba Mar 2014 OP
Careful, I once got a post hidden for using "gang bang" quinnox Mar 2014 #1
Hickey's are so 90's. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #2
What!? 90's? longship Mar 2014 #3
70s FreakinDJ Mar 2014 #19
60s MineralMan Mar 2014 #34
Judge Scalia would disagree on the no-orgies rule...n/t monmouth3 Mar 2014 #4
sounds like exactly the right advice to give young men... mike_c Mar 2014 #5
+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #35
Orgies are "gray" areas???? joeybee12 Mar 2014 #6
Well "gang bang" certainly isn't a gray area gollygee Mar 2014 #7
Well ... not really. 1000words Mar 2014 #8
Google "gang bang definition" gollygee Mar 2014 #9
You asserted that there was "no gray area." 1000words Mar 2014 #10
If you google that word gollygee Mar 2014 #11
Be that as it may ... 1000words Mar 2014 #14
apparently the gray area is "porn films" gollygee Mar 2014 #15
Tell you what ... 1000words Mar 2014 #18
All gang rapes are gang bangs, but most gang bangs are not gang rapes. Xithras Mar 2014 #32
the term, gang bang, is used in porn a lot too quinnox Mar 2014 #12
Well the word comes from a rape description gollygee Mar 2014 #13
Do you ever go to porn sites? One whole category is often called, gang bang quinnox Mar 2014 #16
Porn films are based on male fantasies gollygee Mar 2014 #17
Here is what wikipedia says about it, I excised the more graphic parts. quinnox Mar 2014 #21
"Real life." 1000words Mar 2014 #22
I just happen to be very familiar with the term quinnox Mar 2014 #23
"Porn films are based on male fantasies"? Not so much anymore. Oh, a lot of it is, still, genwah Mar 2014 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #20
Strawman. gollygee Mar 2014 #24
Knowing what I've known about college sports Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #33
Go to craigslist.org, casual encounters for wherever you live. Search for "gang bang". genwah Mar 2014 #29
We're talking about HIGH SCHOOL KIDS gollygee Mar 2014 #30
So what's the problem here? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #25
You mean besides the spelling and punctuation? Scuba Mar 2014 #26
Orgy is Latin Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #27
Regrettable that they put "kinky" on a par with "non-consensual", but basically well-meaning. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #31
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
1. Careful, I once got a post hidden for using "gang bang"
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:19 PM
Mar 2014

as a description for something (and it had nothing to do with sex). True story.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. What!? 90's?
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:28 PM
Mar 2014

They go back at least to the 50's. Or earlier. Probably some Neanderthals gave their lovers hickeys. And yup! They too were likely teen-agers. As it always was.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
5. sounds like exactly the right advice to give young men...
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014

...who are also receiving the message from their peers and school administrators that they're special or otherwise gifted (e.g. athletes). Speaking from some experience-- I was once a young man, LOL-- it's unfortunate that some will not see the wisdom of that advice until after they've made fools of themselves or worse, but it's still good advice. University sports programs often view character shaping as part of their educational mandate.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
35. +1
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:27 PM
Mar 2014

Especially when college athletes get more than their share of female attention -- Not everyone is prepared for that when they leave high school...

It's just smart policy and has been discussed in locker rooms and behind closed doors at every major university for decades...It's just strange to see the 'guidelines' in print...

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
7. Well "gang bang" certainly isn't a gray area
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:41 PM
Mar 2014

it means gang rape, and is often used about gang rapes of unconscious girls at parties, a la Steubenville. They consider that to be a gray area?

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
10. You asserted that there was "no gray area."
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:45 PM
Mar 2014

Furthermore, you equated the word solely with the act of rape. You are incorrect.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
11. If you google that word
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:47 PM
Mar 2014

you'll find it means


1.
the successive rape of one person by a group of other people.
2.
an instance of violence, esp. a shooting, involving members of a criminal gang.


I assume they aren't talking about shootings.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
32. All gang rapes are gang bangs, but most gang bangs are not gang rapes.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:10 PM
Mar 2014

A gang rape is a gang bang without consent. Do a little browsing around some of the alt-sex sites and you'll find that women advertising for gangbangs are a LOT more common than most straights would assume. A gangbang is simply an orgy where everyone focuses their activities on a single person rather than random group members. There are a hell of a lot of women who are turned on by the idea of having four or five guys make her the center of their sexual focus.

And, for what it's worth, Mirriam Webster defines a gang bang as "copulation by several persons in succession with the same passive partner". It's telling that you chose to post the Oxford definitions 1. and 2., but left out Oxfords definition 1.1: "A sexual orgy involving changes of partner." THAT is the definition of "gang bang" that most people associate the term with.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
13. Well the word comes from a rape description
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:48 PM
Mar 2014

and more high school students are in Steubenville situations than porn films.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. Porn films are based on male fantasies
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 05:51 PM
Mar 2014

Not so much on real life. Real life and "gang bang" and high school kids = Steubenville.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
21. Here is what wikipedia says about it, I excised the more graphic parts.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:03 PM
Mar 2014

A gang bang is a situation in which one person engages in physical sexual activity with several individuals sequentially or at the same time. [1] Normally, there is a single individual who is the central focus of the sexual activity; for example, one man or woman surrounded by several men or women.

By contrast, three people engaged in sex is normally referred to as a threesome, and four people are normally referred to as a foursome. Gang bangs also differ from group sex, such as threesomes and foursomes, in that most (if not all) sexual acts during a gang bang are centered on or performed with just the central person. Although the participants of a gang bang may know each other, the spontaneity and anonymity of participants is often part of the attraction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_bang

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
23. I just happen to be very familiar with the term
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:10 PM
Mar 2014

Its something I know from watching too many porn movies.

genwah

(574 posts)
28. "Porn films are based on male fantasies"? Not so much anymore. Oh, a lot of it is, still,
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:44 PM
Mar 2014

but the Internet has changed the porn market forever, and overall, I'd say for the better. Now, no matter how "outre" you are, the Internet lets you know that you're not alone. When I think of all the LGBT kids in small towns with no open support networks around, I am so grateful that porn isn't just male fantasies anymore.

As far as gang bangs, my first recollection of the term was in the mid 1970s, in a swingers magazine. It was an ad from a couple, that began with "My husband is getting me a gang bang for my birthday..." They had negotiated what was acceptable to them, and requested Polaroid penis pics (remember, 1970s) but face pics didn't count, her requirements were total strangers and whe would be blindfolded. The ad closed with (soft quote) "I've been breaking my butt with a big dildo, my husband is very sore, we've been training hard". I was in high school at the time, and while it wasn't something I'd have done then, it was interesting.

P.S. gollygee, porn was kinda my business for a while. I am a male, ex-sex-worker, made my share of porn, been trained as a sex-educator, and I got about `1/3 of the way to a degree before I learned that I'm really not an educator type person. If you want to chat about porn sometime, I still know people, and if you're near SF, there's a hardcore, BDSM porn studio hereabouts that has regular tours. They do quality work, and the reason "Steubenville" was a news story was precicely because it was outrageous and unusual. Porn is not newsworthy, except for the financial pages.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
33. Knowing what I've known about college sports
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:22 PM
Mar 2014

in a given situation, athletes have been known to, shall we say, "team up" in bed with a groupie(s)?

And even with a completely clean, sober and 100% willing female participant begging for a 4-on-1, there is still a very real risk of hidden cameras, extortion, national embarrassment for the university and program, and a litany of uglier possibilities I don't want to think about...

I know it seems like the coach is overly prudish, but at the end of the day he's trying to protect his players, his program and his job...

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
26. You mean besides the spelling and punctuation?
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:47 PM
Mar 2014

As you may have seen in the thread, there's some disagreement over just how far into "inappropriate gray areas" some of these activities are.

And of course, why is "Orgies" capitalized, but "gang bang" is not?

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
27. Orgy is Latin
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:22 PM
Mar 2014

But seriously, how do you know this snip or whatever it is, is a cut and paste and not a retype.

I read it as, 'you boys are gonna be boys, but behave like gentlemen and stay smart.' And it's written pretty frankly, which IMO goes a little further with the kids than the G rated version.

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