What say you happened to MH370. I say it was such a series of events, over long periods of time,

[applegrove]

that it had to be malevolent. It was intentional, repetitive, resolute. Not a mistake. It was evil. But beyond that we don't know. Till we have the data recorder and cabin recorder as witnesses.

[Gravitycollapse]

1. I think no one on this board actually has even the faintest idea what happened.

And that these incessant threads are a waste of bandwidth.

[applegrove]

2. We are human. We wonder at the questions of our times. I did not notice too many threads on this

topic today. Sorry if I offended. I was just listening to the news and feel bad for the pilot being blamed tonight without enough info. So I agree with you we don't have enough information.

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. Many aircraft mishaps are caused by a cascading series of failures. I don't think this one was. n/t

[AngryAmish]

20. If the pilot was a nutter then failing to discover this was a failure

[madokie]

21. Here's what I think

I read that they had a couple pallets of lithium batteries. We know that lithium batteries can and do catch fire under certain conditions. If the batteries due to the way they were stacked and loaded did catch fire they could have caused a fire that maybe burned through the wiring harness, hence the loss of some systems and possibly burning a hole in the fuselage causing a loss of cabin pressure causing a loss of conscientiousness of all aboard. It seems the pilots made a turn and maybe they did that after realizing something was wrong and during this time is when the loss of cabin pressure and loss of conscientiousness. The plane then could fly on auto for no telling how long possibly until it ran out of fuel.
Payne Stewart's last flight comes to mind when I think about this scenario.

[Roland99]

4. My first thought was akin to what happened to Payne Stewart's plane.

[R B Garr]

9. Same here about Payne Stewart's plane! I also thought about that flight that lost altitude

instruments so the pilots couldn't tell how close they were to the ocean when the plane's wing tipped and hit the water. I think it was this flight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroper%C3%BA_Flight_603

[KinMd]

5. Cockpit voice recorders only cover the final 1/2 to 2 hours..

depending on the model

[applegrove]

6. Yeah but if it is quiet that tells us it was a zombie flight at that point.

[KinMd]

7. Exactly...

but we won't hear what was said when the plane first went off course

[applegrove]

8. Right. And that would have been more informative. It is already lost.

[sir pball]

10. They, along with Flight Data Recorders, also have circuit breakers

Pretty much every pilot-suicide involves throwing the breakers; assuming this was deliberate acts, the perpetrator would definitely have shut down the black boxes along with the transponders and other comms gear.

Bottom line, we might be able to tell if the engines were still running and how hard the plane crashed from the state of the debris, but that's all that's left to find out. There is no recorded data.

[TorchTheWitch]

11. and the wreckage

Most information about why a plane crashed is expert examination of the recovered wreckage.

You should watch some of the plane crash documentaries on YouTube... they're fascinating.

[applegrove]

12. No. I'm just following the mystery of this. I like stories with happy outcomes for the most part.

I'm trying to read unbroken but it has gotten too heart wrenching and they have not yet gone to war.

[Loudly]

13. The disappearance of MH370 occurred the same week as the Uygher knife attack at the railway station.

Two Muslim pilots and a plane full of Chinese nationals?

This was an act of solidarity with the Uygher separatists.

Dump the plane in the drink in as remote a place as your fuel will carry you.

Made to look like Allah himself had magically made the plane disappear.

To punish evil godless China.

[jberryhill]

14. "Terrorism" absent a claim of responsibility, is pointless

Terrorist acts are committed to make a point, to inspire fear of the persons responsible and/or to draw attention to an agenda.

One might as well say that natural disasters are God's punishment of the victims for whatever is bothering God at that time.

But when you have a situation where a profusion of theories such as Uighers, Malaysian politics, and what-have-you fill the void, then it would seem that we have some very stupid terrorists at work, since they have failed to accomplish the essential goal of committing a terrorist act in the first place.

It's like a kidnapper failing to make a ransom demand and wondering why the money is not coming in.

[KittyWampus]

15. Very well written & sound reasoning, IMO. Thank You.

[Loudly]

17. They would not call themselves terrorists, however.

They would call themselves devout men of conscience doing the will of Allah.

And Allah does not issue press releases to explain himself.

Only the Prophet could articulate such will, peace be upon him.

The disappearance of a plane full of Chinese nationals in a seemingly supernatural fashion speaks for itself to the world.

[marions ghost]

18. It doesn't fit the pattern

of a disabled plane trying to return to point of origin (or plan B emergency landing) because of the usual issues of equipment failure.

Something caused that plane to veer wildly off course before finally ending up in the ocean.

My hunch? (And that's all it is) I don't think the pilots were in control of the plane at any point after the sudden course change. That might be due to deliberate sabotage, or it might be a result of equipment failure/human error. But I don't think they had control of the plane. If one of the pilots was disabled, the other might not have been able to manage. Or maybe someone else entirely was flying the thing at that point. I see a struggle for control of the plane that did not succeed--and I mean struggle in the sense of trying to get control of the plane itself. I even wonder if something malicious had been loaded onto the plane's computer on the ground, programmed to malfunction at a certain point.

Speculation is only natural when there are so many unanswered questions.

[karadax]

19. Many veteran pilots point to change in altitude

On more than one occasion during the speculation hoopla I've heard seasoned pilots say that the altitude drop tells them that there was a struggle for control of the plane. When 40 lbs of force or more is placed upon the stick autopilot turns off automatically. I tend to go with this scenario.

The pilot or co pilot tried to hijack the plane. The other noticed and a fight ensued (altitude drop) . The hijacker dies while other pilot is mortally wounded. Returns plane to altitude (autopilot kicks in) then croaks. There is no one to fly the plane and it eventually hits the water.

[marions ghost]

22. In agreement with that in general

as a likely scenario. But I'm not sure one of the pilots was a hijacker. Could have been done by someone else. What makes you think it was a pilot? The last messages?