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Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:36 AM

The NSA was created in secret … and Congress wasn’t even notified.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2014/03/intelligence-agencies-have-gone-rogue-with-no-oversight/


In 2007, reporter Charles Davis asked then-Chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee – Jay Rockefeller – about clandestine U.S. operations against a foreign government:
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DAVIS: Is there anything you could do in your position as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee to find answers about this, if it is in fact going on?

ROCKEFELLER: [font color=red]Don’t you understand the way Intelligence works? Do you think that because I’m Chairman of the Intelligence Committee that I just say I want it, and they give it to me? They control it. All of it. ALL of it. ALL THE TIME. I only get - and my committee only gets - what they WANT to give me.[/font]


This is shocking … but not new.

The NSA was created in secret … and Congress wasn’t even notified.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/02/nsa-federal-agency-created-secret-memo-rather-congressional-legislation.html

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More, plus links:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2014/03/intelligence-agencies-have-gone-rogue-with-no-oversight/

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kpete Mar 2014 OP
Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #1
Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #4
alc Mar 2014 #2
2banon Mar 2014 #3
Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #5
librechik Mar 2014 #6

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:44 AM

1. ROCKEFELLER providing oversight...

says everything I need to know.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:22 AM

4. I completely agree with one proviso....

I think the Rockefellers are a diverse, hard working, and, believe it or not, variously well-meaning group.

But there's these pesky two things:

Power Corrupts, Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

and

The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions.

As a culture, our Achilles' Heel is self-deception, so, of course, we base our National Defense in the Nuclear Age on secrecy and deception. And how is THAT going?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:02 AM

2. I'm sure there's another

Ever since they became an open secret then a non-secret agency I've guessed our government has created a new secret agency. They have more than enough money in the budget that isn't accounted for (other than "national security" not to mention the hidden bank accounts they could create pretty easily over the years (maybe that missing Iraq cash didn't go to "bad guys"

Given what the "leaders" say, I'd call them irresponsible if they feel that way and have not created a new agency that's beyond any oversight and not on anyone's radar.

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Response to alc (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:07 AM

3. I'd love to see the Feds go after all these agencies.. (lol not going to happen) n/t

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:40 AM

5. The period between 1945 and 1950 has ALWAYS fascinated me...

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When I did use libraries, one of my favorite things to do was to read how the popular media covered The Bomb between 1945 and say, 1950. The hubris, the suggestions that we use the bomb to move mountains and reroute rivers, the sense that God gave US the bomb, so obviously God wanted US to rule the World. And the absolute HORROR when the USSR exploded its first bomb. Thus the setup for McCarthyism.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022869035


Guess one of the new CIA's biggest early failures? Missed the USSR A-Bomb thing completely.

Wrong turns were made. Toward the end of his life, Robert Byrd kept going on and on about that....

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:19 PM

6. all those years the head of CIA in Europe was a double agent

but it's not like we didn't have every opportunity to know this. Stupid stupid venal people in charge.

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