Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:24 AM Mar 2014

Tragedy for Republicans: More people will be getting health insurance!

A new grace period for Obamacare enrollment means many will now be covered -- and the right couldn't be more upset

BRIAN BEUTLER


Putting it out there now: By May 1, enrollment in ACA-compliant health plans through federally facilitated and state-based exchanges will hit the symbolic 7 million mark, and conservatives will whine that it doesn’t count because something something.

I’ll even go way out on a limb and put five whole dollars on it.

My confidence stems from the Obama administration’s decision, announced Wednesday, to create a grace period of sorts for people who have attempted to apply for coverage on healthcare.gov but got sidelined along the way.

This would annoy and delight conservatives under any circumstances, just as every Obamacare delay and exception annoys and delights conservatives. But what genuinely pisses them off in this circumstance is that the administration has set up a system that’s deliberately easy to game, for the purposes of increasing enrollment.

more
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/27/a_tragedy_for_republicans_more_people_will_be_getting_health_insurance/
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Tragedy for Republicans: More people will be getting health insurance! (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2014 OP
If my experience with trying to sign up for ACA is typical, I'll take your bet. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #1
No fine...the deadline has been extended for those in the process of applying. nt DonViejo Mar 2014 #2
Well they won't get me to waste any more of my time. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #3
I'm not aware of anyone "begging" as you like to call it... DonViejo Mar 2014 #4
I choose not to defend a failed plan. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #5
Who asked you to defend an alleged "failed plan"? DonViejo Mar 2014 #6
You are lying. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #7
Worked like a charm for me and all my family and professional associates Berlum Mar 2014 #8
I don't know what a Republicon is, but if you were successful- congrats. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #9
In the first place the ACA was not designed for everyone, not even eighty percent. Bandit Mar 2014 #11
2.2 percent is quite a bit short of 80 percent. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #14
ACA was not designed to help over eighty percent Bandit Mar 2014 #21
I don't know what the "Democrat Party" is either, but... Berlum Mar 2014 #16
I'm lying, huh? DonViejo Mar 2014 #10
If I do attempt a career in comedy, your ACA story will be my first joke. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #12
Good luck with that career change! DonViejo Mar 2014 #13
Right now I'm considering Health Care salesman. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #15
If it will save me and my family a lot of money, as it did, of course I'm buying Berlum Mar 2014 #17
Only a fool would pass up such great savings on health care Berlum Mar 2014 #18
Failed? Its on pace to beat estimates. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #22
Look, everyone! A phony ACA horror story! This might be number 1 million! Who gets the prize? DanTex Mar 2014 #19
Chris Hayes last nite: Bush extended Medicare Pt D signup by 6 MONTHS! ErikJ Mar 2014 #20
 

Cofitachequi

(112 posts)
1. If my experience with trying to sign up for ACA is typical, I'll take your bet.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:40 AM
Mar 2014

Now I just have to decide how to spend my $5.

So far, more than 9 hours on the website, in five sittings. Twice called the "navigators" to be told they's call back- never did, first time is more than two weeks ago. Most recent trip to site was today- got fed up and called "navigator", put on hold, and after listening to muzak for 25 minutes, tape recording came on to tell me due to a high number of calls, they would not take my call and line went dead.

I'll likely be paying the fine.

 

Cofitachequi

(112 posts)
3. Well they won't get me to waste any more of my time.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:06 PM
Mar 2014

And there will be no deadline, ever.

A deadline is necessary when the "product" is tremendously popular and you need to keep the numbers manageable. That will never be a problem with a program that you have to beg people to participlate in and if that fails, threaten them with tax penalties.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. I'm not aware of anyone "begging" as you like to call it...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:19 PM
Mar 2014

It is expected that 7 million people will have signed up by the end of the month. Sorry to say this but, if you've got time to sit on DU, you have time to enroll in the ACA but, that's your choice, correct?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
6. Who asked you to defend an alleged "failed plan"?
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:31 PM
Mar 2014

I'm betting if you had applied for the ACA months ago, you wouldn't be on here today complaining about the delay you are "suffering" from because you waited until nearly the last minute to apply.

 

Cofitachequi

(112 posts)
7. You are lying.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:35 PM
Mar 2014

That is not the case.
But as you seem to be interested in spinning a tale to attempt to prop up a failed program, speaking reason to you is senseless.

But you should listen to yourself. How could four days until (the most recent non-) deadline be the "last minute to apply", except in a failed and inefficent system?

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
8. Worked like a charm for me and all my family and professional associates
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:39 PM
Mar 2014

But you'll want to note that since Republicons are wired for negativity and fail, they tend to have massive problems. Something to do with karma, I reckon.

 

Cofitachequi

(112 posts)
9. I don't know what a Republicon is, but if you were successful- congrats.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:47 PM
Mar 2014

If the program does hit 7 million, you will be part of the 2.2 percent of the nation enrolled in the plan.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
11. In the first place the ACA was not designed for everyone, not even eighty percent.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:14 PM
Mar 2014

It was designed to help many of the forty million people that have no health insurance at all. In the second place I defy you to explain the failed part of the Law. I know there have been problems getting people enrolled but once they are enrolled I have not heard a single complaint. You spout right wing rhetoric with not a single example to back up what you say. Failing to enroll is not failure of policy. Why is it seven million people have managed to enroll but you can't manage it? I believe the failure is you and not the ACA.

 

Cofitachequi

(112 posts)
14. 2.2 percent is quite a bit short of 80 percent.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:24 PM
Mar 2014

But the horror stories have not yet begun. You are talikng about applications as success. We have not yet heard about people who try to use whatever it is they have bought in to.

I believe that National Health Care is a noble goal and if it ever happens it will certainly be progressives who accomplish it. This aint it. This gift to the insurance companies is not even close.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
21. ACA was not designed to help over eighty percent
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 03:21 PM
Mar 2014

Forty million is about ten percent of the population and that is who the ACA was designed for. And in fact not even all those forty million realistically. Probably around thirty million will be helped and the rest will continue on just as they have done so before the ACA became law.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
16. I don't know what the "Democrat Party" is either, but...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:42 PM
Mar 2014

...virtually every Republican -- and all of their overpaid corporate propaganda pimps -- including Fox 'news', Rush 'Draft Dodger' Limbaugh, Sean 'Chickenhawk' Hannity, and Bill 'Felafel Freak' O'Reilly apply that mindscrew term systematically and religiously to denigrate the Democratic Party.

Decent Americans regard that systematic disrespect as juvenile, unpatriotic and outright queer.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
10. I'm lying, huh?
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:12 PM
Mar 2014

Lying by saying if you had signed up months ago, instead of waiting to nearly the last minute to apply, you probably would not be experiencing the difficulties you now are? Sorry, THAT'S fact. My youngest son successfully signed up for the ACA months ago. Granted, he had some problems on his initial try but, he was successful with his second effort. He subsequently informed us he "had misunderstood the directions he was given" resulting in his first application failing to register.

And you don't see waiting until four days before the deadline to apply for the ACA as "last minute"? Have you ever considered going into comedy? You're truly hysterically, but nonetheless pathetically, funny.

 

Cofitachequi

(112 posts)
12. If I do attempt a career in comedy, your ACA story will be my first joke.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:19 PM
Mar 2014

You will get a writing credit, I promise.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
20. Chris Hayes last nite: Bush extended Medicare Pt D signup by 6 MONTHS!
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 02:48 PM
Mar 2014

And not a peep from the RWers...or Dems.
Its obvious the GOP doesnt want ACA to work because it will have too few signups. We should extend the deadline by a couple months.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Tragedy for Republicans: ...