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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:16 PM Mar 2014

Ford Just Absolutely Destroyed Cadillac's Ad Praising Rich Guys Who Work All The Time

Ford is giving Americans a choice: Either you can be a self-absorbed Cadillac owner who spends his entire life working so he can buy expensive things, or a civic-minded Ford owner who pours her heart and soul into a project aimed at making the world a better place.

That's the message in a new Ford commercial skewering Cadillac for a controversial recent ad that ruffled feathers by presenting what some felt was a misguided perspective on the American work ethic.

The Cadillac ad starred actor Neil McDonough as a rich guy looking out at his pool and pondering why he and other Americans work so hard when people in other countries take off the whole month of August.

<snip>

In order to draw a contrast, Ford mimicked the structure of Cadillac's commercial. Only it decided to use Pasho Murray, a real woman who founded Detroit Dirt, a company that turns waste into compost and sells it to people who want to create urban gardens.

Murray looks out at a landfill and wonders why Americans aren't more like other countries who buy locally grown food.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-destroys-cadillacs-rich-guy-ad-2014-3#ixzz2xCi9PRdu

Yes, it's all marketing but this is really quite interesting.

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Ford Just Absolutely Destroyed Cadillac's Ad Praising Rich Guys Who Work All The Time (Original Post) cali Mar 2014 OP
Ooooh, what a smackdown! I love it! n/t MicaelS Mar 2014 #1
Freakin' awesome! cyberswede Mar 2014 #2
Fabulous! Thanks for linking it cyberswede! Scuba Mar 2014 #25
She is sooo much better than that douche from the Cadillac commercial progressoid Mar 2014 #27
love it. Schema Thing Mar 2014 #3
Cadillac raised its American corporate scumbag meter to the top with that commercial. quinnox Mar 2014 #4
Indeed, it was so bad it was damn near satire arcane1 Mar 2014 #49
Ford just wants to sell more Lincolns. idendoit Mar 2014 #5
I think that Cadillac ad was intentionally made to be Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #6
Cadillac knows their demographic is middle aged self important white guys. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #14
Actually, I think I see more of those hogs being driven by Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #18
What? Polly Hennessey Mar 2014 #26
A Maddam? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #30
A Maddam? Polly Hennessey Mar 2014 #37
"Well, I do live in Las Vegas." Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #57
I have not seen Blue hair in 20 years happyslug Mar 2014 #68
Wow, thanks for the info. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #69
Somebody forgot to tell all the nice ladies in Texas snooper2 Mar 2014 #72
Meh CFLDem Mar 2014 #7
My daddy said you're gonna make start drinkin' deaniac21 Mar 2014 #8
Hope you don't mind if I correct you, 'cause it's... Ferretherder Mar 2014 #31
That is my recall as well... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #58
After watching that ad I think I'd rather have a Cadillac. name not needed Mar 2014 #9
why? cali Mar 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author name not needed Mar 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Mar 2014 #23
Well, the woman in the ad really does what she claims to do in the ad... cyberswede Mar 2014 #34
I didn't see that woman as being anything like Mitt Romney. And I didn't think the Squinch Mar 2014 #38
Wow MrScorpio Mar 2014 #44
Ford and their marketing team have realized that appealing to mainstream American values .... Scuba Mar 2014 #10
Ford 1,2,3 n/t reddread Mar 2014 #11
I would rather promote both Ford and Cadillac as products of unionized American companies. totodeinhere Mar 2014 #13
I hear that. /nt pintobean Mar 2014 #16
And Ford got their shit together without needing to be bailed out by the govt. 7962 Mar 2014 #81
"sit down or get out of the way" (or howzabout "Cadillac: the Cadillac of cars"?) MisterP Mar 2014 #15
I think people missed the punchline of the Cadillac commercial ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2014 #17
I missed it too, what was it? arcane1 Mar 2014 #52
Basically, here's this red meat loving alpha male.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2014 #59
Cadillacs are overpriced and poorly made cars GETPLANING Mar 2014 #19
my dad had an old used Cadillac a few years before I was born...... lastlib Mar 2014 #50
Cadillacs used to have a high rating...until the Great Recession hit. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #53
I Had An Old One ProfessorGAC Mar 2014 #64
JD Power might disagree, some Cadillacs get the highest rankings FogerRox Mar 2014 #76
That is just NOT true. OverBurn Mar 2014 #83
Frankly, I like both ads. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #20
Yeah, we blew up several people TWICE trying to go back and get the car with the keys in it. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #24
Best. car. ad. ever. Brigid Mar 2014 #22
"Mama, if that's movin' up then I'm movin' out." adirondacker Mar 2014 #28
Touche! Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #29
We have to encourage the wealthy to disperse their hoarded money. LakeVermilion Mar 2014 #32
You're not going to get the wealthy to spend more than they are starroute Mar 2014 #46
Yep. The lady came across working to help others; he came across as working snappyturtle Mar 2014 #39
It *is* interesting; you're right. Ten years ago... Marr Mar 2014 #33
That's pretty great. Did you see the conspiracy version? JackRiddler Mar 2014 #35
Thanks! this is good. nt snappyturtle Mar 2014 #42
haha Cool! Joe Shlabotnik Mar 2014 #47
Excellent!! oldandhappy Mar 2014 #36
Set in Detroit? GM went big with Detroit messaging last year. Ford hit 'em there too. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #40
That ad will make me look at that Ford the next time I am buying a car. Squinch Mar 2014 #41
Cadillac further shoots own feet by "clearing up misconceptions". HughBeaumont Mar 2014 #43
What a crock of shit. llmart Mar 2014 #45
He forgot to add: DeSwiss Mar 2014 #67
LOL, not the richest 1%, just the richest 2.8%. FogerRox Mar 2014 #77
Brilliant n/t rumdude Mar 2014 #48
Big DU rec and kick! n/t zappaman Mar 2014 #51
Proud to own two Fords MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #54
My partner, a car nut, fell in love with sync. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #65
A whole slew of DUers just put their Fords up for sale on Craigslist. bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #66
Still Will Never Buy A Ford ProgressiveJarhead Mar 2014 #55
It is all marketing. Still, Ford took advantage of a competitors mistake. Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #56
My last three new cars were Fords... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #60
I have to kinda laugh at all the "new" styled Fords.....they remind me of a kennedy Mar 2014 #63
Some of this regulation driven happyslug Mar 2014 #70
Please don't tell me this is the ad fad of the year jmowreader Mar 2014 #61
Boom! Esse Quam Videri Mar 2014 #62
Americans gave up on Cadillac, when DeLorean spilled the beans. n/t CanSocDem Mar 2014 #71
Just marketing MosheFeingold Mar 2014 #73
I saw that commercial and was disturbed by it Rider3 Mar 2014 #74
Ouch! That's going to leave a mark! colorado_ufo Mar 2014 #75
Excellent relayerbob Mar 2014 #78
Sold me ... sarchasm Mar 2014 #79
I think this is a huge step in the right direction. The American dream isnt to be wealthy as we rhett o rick Mar 2014 #80
Sweet !!! beemer27 Mar 2014 #82
Damn Ford - fecking Brilliant! mackerel Mar 2014 #84
Note the woman in the Ford ad looks much younger and smarter than the guy in the Cadillac JDPriestly Mar 2014 #85
Love it! DesertRat Mar 2014 #86
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. Cadillac raised its American corporate scumbag meter to the top with that commercial.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:36 PM
Mar 2014

Nice to see a proper response. I would be embarrassed to drive a Cadillac, if I could afford one, that is.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
49. Indeed, it was so bad it was damn near satire
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:36 PM
Mar 2014

It's amazing to think of how many people had to sign off on that idea.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. I think that Cadillac ad was intentionally made to be
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:36 PM
Mar 2014

"so-bad-its-almost-but-not-quite-good", in a sort-of subtle way...

It certainly did get people talking, which is a good thing *IF* you belong to that "no such thing as bad publicity" school of thought...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. Actually, I think I see more of those hogs being driven by
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:02 PM
Mar 2014

little old blue-haired ladies wearing ostentatious gold earrings & displaying pearl necklaces around their wattled necks.

Polly Hennessey

(6,793 posts)
37. A Maddam?
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:57 PM
Mar 2014

Well, I do live in Las Vegas. I guess I could qualify. Or do you mean Mad Dam as in Mad Damsel? I still qualify. My husband thinks I am quite mad and I am a damsel.

Polly

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
68. I have not seen Blue hair in 20 years
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:29 AM
Mar 2014

Prior to the 1980s, hair stylists would give senior citizens the option of what color they wanted their hair. Do to the decline in their eyesight, many senior citizens opt for blue hair for it looked blonde to them. In the 1980s Blue Hair was "big" then Senior Citizens learned that their hair was blue (no one wanted to insult grandma, so people for years did not tell them). The hair stylists would make comments among themselves, but like the rest of us, they did not want to insult grandma.

Once senior citizens learned about their eyesight and blue hair, they decided to either have a younger member of their family pick the color, or told the hair stylist what they wanted and that given their eyesight it was better for the hair stylist to pick the actual color. That killed off blue hair.

Thus I have NOT seen Blue Hair in 20 years, and I live in an area with three senior citizen apartment buildings.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
31. Hope you don't mind if I correct you, 'cause it's...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:36 PM
Mar 2014

...My daddy said 'son, your gonna' drive me to drinkin' if ya' don't stop drivin' that hot rod Lincoln'.

At least that's the way I remember it goin'.

3catwoman3

(23,971 posts)
58. That is my recall as well...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:18 PM
Mar 2014

...with great little rhythmic pauses between the last 3 words -


Hot......Rod......Lincoln......

Response to cali (Reply #12)

Response to name not needed (Reply #21)

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
34. Well, the woman in the ad really does what she claims to do in the ad...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:40 PM
Mar 2014

as opposed to being an actor. (As I understand it, anyway).

Squinch

(50,946 posts)
38. I didn't see that woman as being anything like Mitt Romney. And I didn't think the
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:02 PM
Mar 2014

project she runs or the idea of trying to make things better is faux populist bullshit.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. Ford and their marketing team have realized that appealing to mainstream American values ....
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:44 PM
Mar 2014

... is different than what Cadillac thinks it is. I'm betting Ford's ad is the winner.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
13. I would rather promote both Ford and Cadillac as products of unionized American companies.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:50 PM
Mar 2014

We can have marketing spats like this one, but the bottom line is they are both American made in union shops and having both Ford and GM thrive is good for our economy.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
17. I think people missed the punchline of the Cadillac commercial
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:59 PM
Mar 2014

But then again, yeah, it's not directed at people like us, and those people probably missed it too.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
59. Basically, here's this red meat loving alpha male....
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:06 PM
Mar 2014

....who loves his money, luxury, etc. talking about American ingenuity, and at the end we find out the Cadillac is a hybrid which is supposed to be decidedly against what the guy represents or what people of his ilk find "manly".

GETPLANING

(846 posts)
19. Cadillacs are overpriced and poorly made cars
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:03 PM
Mar 2014

They last about three years, then they just fall apart. My colleagues at the Cadillac dealers tell me they are a pain in the butt to work on as well.

lastlib

(23,208 posts)
50. my dad had an old used Cadillac a few years before I was born......
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:38 PM
Mar 2014

always needed fixing (I think it was severely abused, maybe wrecked by previous owner). He swore he'd never have another one, and he hasn't. I think I was about twelve before I realized the brand-name wasn't "damnCadillac"...........

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
53. Cadillacs used to have a high rating...until the Great Recession hit.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:00 PM
Mar 2014

People that owned Cadillacs traded them in or got a new lease within four years, and always gave high marks on quality surveys. Easy to do with a relatively new car, nothing has broken yet.

Until the Great Recession. Like everyone else who got slammed economically, they kept their vehicles longer.

The quality surveys took a nosedive.

The owners found out they started to fall apart after four years and were quite expensive to fix.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
64. I Had An Old One
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:26 AM
Mar 2014

I beg to differ. We got it when my FiL died. It was 16 years old at the time. Ran like a new car. Sold it to a old Caddie lover for a couple grand. He's still driving it. Thing is 22 years old.

Lady who lives on a farm just outside of town has a 1990. A little rust but runs great.

That's only anecdotal, but no less say than your opinion.
GAC

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
76. JD Power might disagree, some Cadillacs get the highest rankings
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 12:34 PM
Mar 2014

In quality and reliability.


http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Cadillac/index.htm

The 2014 CTS got Motor Trends car of the year.

The DTS is a staple in Limo fleets, not because it lasts only 3 years....

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
20. Frankly, I like both ads.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:03 PM
Mar 2014

"We left a car on the moon with the keys in it. Why? 'Cuz it'll be there when we go back for it."

Both ads are different riffs on the same theme. Americans get shit done. Exceptionalist? Maybe. Americans have done some exceptional things... in both realms.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
24. Yeah, we blew up several people TWICE trying to go back and get the car with the keys in it.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:14 PM
Mar 2014

Lots if people are exceptional all the time all around the world.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
28. "Mama, if that's movin' up then I'm movin' out."
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:26 PM
Mar 2014

Billy Joel couldn't have said it better...

"Movin' Out (Anthony's Song)"


Anthony works in the grocery store
Savin' his pennies for someday
Mama Leone left a note on the door,
She said,
"Sonny, move out to the country."
Oh but workin' too hard can give you
A heart attack
You oughta know by now
Who needs a house out in Hackensack?
Is that all you get for your money?

It seems such a waste of time
If that's what it's all about
Mama, if that's movin' up then I'm movin' out.

Sergeant O'Leary is walkin' the beat
At night he becomes a bartender
He works at Mister Cacciatore's down
On Sullivan Street
Across from the medical center
He's tradin' in his Chevy for a Cadillac
You oughta know by now
And if he can't drive
With a broken back
At least he can polish the fenders

And it seems such a waste of time
If that's what it's all about
Mama, if that's movin' up then I'm movin' out.

You should never argue with a crazy mind
You oughta know by now
You can pay Uncle Sam with the overtime
Is that all you get for your money?

And if that's what you have in mind
Yaeh that's what your all about,
Good luck movin up, cause I'm movin' out!

I'm movin' out...

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
29. Touche!
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:26 PM
Mar 2014

What a great ad! This will resonate with "working Americans". The guy in the Cadillac ad comes across as a pompous ass.

LakeVermilion

(1,039 posts)
32. We have to encourage the wealthy to disperse their hoarded money.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:37 PM
Mar 2014

If the Cadillac commercial creates more money in the economy, I'm all for it. I really don't care if the wealthy have money, its keeping it in their mattresses, or in overseas accounts, that gets to me.

By the way I'm all for ending welfare for the wealthy. They should have to pay for everything they use, just like you and me.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
46. You're not going to get the wealthy to spend more than they are
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:26 PM
Mar 2014

There are only so many limousines and yachts one person can own. And I'm not sure the 1% are buying Cadillacs anyway -- the brand has a bit too much of the Elvis/nouveau riche aura about it. High end European cars is more like it.

The only reliable way to get more money in the economy is redistribution. Give free money to poor people and you'll see how fast it flies out the door.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
33. It *is* interesting; you're right. Ten years ago...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:39 PM
Mar 2014

... that ad wouldn't have inspired a mocking response.

I do think there's a strong undercurrent of discontent in the United States, and a growing disgust with conspicuous consumption and the Randian ethos that's squawked out of corporate media outlets in a thousand little ways every day.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
36. Excellent!!
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:54 PM
Mar 2014

What a nice response. Love it. I am in favor of Ford anyway. Now I love this lady and activist mind and labor. Yes!

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
43. Cadillac further shoots own feet by "clearing up misconceptions".
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:09 PM
Mar 2014
http://adage.com/article/news/cadillac-clears-misconceptions-poolside-ad/291925/

Advertising Age interviewed Cadillac's Mr. Bierley on the strong reaction to the spot. He said the spot's been "misconstrued" by some viewers. He wanted to set the record straight. Among the misperceptions:

It's aimed at the richest 1%
Not so, says Mr. Bierley. Rather than millionaires, the spot's targeted at customers who make around $200,000 a year. They're consumers with a "little bit of grit under their fingernails" who "pop in and out of luxury" when and how they see fit, he said. "These are people who haven't been given anything. Every part of success they've achieved has been earned through hard work and hustle. . . . One of the ways they reward themselves for their hard work is through the purchase of a luxury car," he said.

It's about materialism

Go back and watch the beginning, said Mr. Bierley. Right up front, Mr. McDonough dismisses the idea the reason American work so hard is to buy "stuff." What he's really saying is that Americans work hard because that's what they love to do. Luxury cars and other expensive goodies are a byproduct of success; not the objective. "It's basically saying hard work creates its own luck. In order to achieve it, you just have to believe anything's possible. You have to believe in yourself, you have to believe in possibilities. It's really about optimism. It's really a fundamental human truth: optimism about creating your own future. It's not about materialism."


Americans work hard because if we DON'T, we're under a bridge and starving. Some of us end up that way no matter HOW hard we work, and working your fingers to the bone often gets you nothing but bony fingers. Certainly doesn't get you a fucking swimming pool.

And is anyone but me completely sick of that line "hard work creates its own luck"?? Or "you make your own luck in life"??

llmart

(15,536 posts)
45. What a crock of shit.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:24 PM
Mar 2014

I've worked very hard all my life and can't afford a new car right now.

I hated that Cadillac commercial from the first time I saw it and I'll bet many Americans saw it just the way I did. It's like they're rubbing it in our faces that maybe we just didn't work hard enough to own one.

I wouldn't have one anyway. The only people I see driving Cadillacs are old people.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
67. He forgot to add:
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:13 AM
Mar 2014
''The fact that the American public's tax dollars saved our parent company's ass during The Great Recession and the fact that we now make huge profits off the bastards who caused The Great Recession, is purely coincidental. But is our way of paying it forward. In selective areas.''

- He seems nice.

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
77. LOL, not the richest 1%, just the richest 2.8%.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 12:39 PM
Mar 2014

Cadillac has vastly improved quality & reliability compared to the 1980-1990's. they've finally made a non large car that gets respect in the industry.

This add is embarrassing.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
65. My partner, a car nut, fell in love with sync.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:41 AM
Mar 2014

Milan, Focus and now Escape. Before that, he never owned a domestic.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
56. It is all marketing. Still, Ford took advantage of a competitors mistake.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:14 PM
Mar 2014

From the PR side, Ford gets respect, GM doesn't.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
60. My last three new cars were Fords...
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 02:58 AM
Mar 2014

my next new one will be. I grew up in Brook Park, OH. I lived within 5 miles of the Chevy and Ford plants. Most of my neighbors worked at one of them.

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
63. I have to kinda laugh at all the "new" styled Fords.....they remind me of
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:20 AM
Mar 2014

what older Hondas looked like. ha ha. Honda is the leader in cool looking cars, and now Ford is just using all the older Honda styles. But, good for them, love the Honda style....new or old.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
70. Some of this regulation driven
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:36 AM
Mar 2014

Europe has adopted rules to protect pedestrians when hit by a car. Given most cars are design for the world wide market (and then modified to meet various nation's regulations), this European requirement is working its way throughout the Auto Industry making more car front ends more and more alike.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
61. Please don't tell me this is the ad fad of the year
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 03:59 AM
Mar 2014

Someone did a campaign where he stood on a ladder and photographed a model pointing down...and for the next five years, every ad in the world had that picture in it. Then UPS did their whiteboard campaign, and now half the ads in the world are those idiotic whiteboard animations. This year, half the ads are going to be someone doing his or her impression of the Cadillasshat schtick.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
73. Just marketing
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:49 AM
Mar 2014

So Ford is picking a niche and some Don Draper wannabe figured out how to push your buttons.

It's not like Ford doesn't make Lincolns.

Heck Ford and Jaguar/Landrover used to be the same company and still work closely together. You don't get much more snotty than a Land Rover (well, except the Land Rover Defender, which is just cool --- and not available here).

Subaru pushes the same buttons are Ford is doing here.

It's all consumerism. They are picking their consumers.

Me? I just pick a good used car, preferably about a year or two old, keep it in good shape, and drive it for about a decade or so. Pretty much any used car, kept in good shape, is more environmentally-friendly than any new car, due to the environmental foot print of making something new.

Don't be a sucker.


Rider3

(919 posts)
74. I saw that commercial and was disturbed by it
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:57 AM
Mar 2014

I'm glad Ford is taking the opposite approach. Smart move.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
78. Excellent
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 12:46 PM
Mar 2014

I despised that Cadillac ad - nothing would push me faster to buy a BMW if I was into those sorts of things. Thanks, I'll stick to my gas-sipper

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
80. I think this is a huge step in the right direction. The American dream isnt to be wealthy as we
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 02:49 PM
Mar 2014

have been bombarded with for the last 30 years, but to be a good spouse, parent, and citizen of the world.

Plant extra for your local foodbank.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
85. Note the woman in the Ford ad looks much younger and smarter than the guy in the Cadillac
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:11 PM
Mar 2014

ad.

By the way, the Cadillac ad is nauseating. Just nauseating.

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