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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHobby Lobby Is DOA (Supernatural Powers vs Corporate Personhood)
Supernatural Powers vs Corporate Personhood.$$$ wins?
FRI MAR 28, 2014 AT 04:05 AM PDT
byMan from Wasichustan
Forget about corporate personhood.
Forget about Super Natural Corporate Powers (courtesy of SCOTUS, inc.).
Forget about Citizen's United (courtesy of SCOTUS, inc.).
Forget about employee vs. employer rights.
Forget about "Your gay violates mah religious freedom, Part Deux."
Forget about contraception, the Pope, the Bishops, the snake handlers.
Hell, while we're at it, forget about the pie!
(OK, not going to forget about the pie. We'll need that later).
...........Ring of Fire radio host Mike Papantonio (appearing yesterday on the Ed Schultz radio show) says such a ruling would be good news for anyone damaged by corporate malfeasance. For Hobby Lobby's super Jesus Powers would not only mark the end of Corporate Personhood. It would end Corporate Indemnity. Or as Mike Papantonio says, it would completely alter corporate law on such a grand scale, "It would pierce the corporate veil," and allow law suits to proceed against the owners of a corporation for the illegal or negligent acts of the corporation.
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Well, Mr. Papantonio has but one question:
Where are the amicus briefs?
Gobs were filed in Citizens United by every Big Corporate Governance entity from the Chamber of Commerce to Americans for Saving Cute Kittens from Liberal Scum. Inc. But Hobby Lobby?
(For those of us who don't do law, an amicus brief is basically an opinion offered by someone who is not a party to a case but has an interest in its outcome enough to pay some lawyer thousands of dollars to make the argument to the SCOTUS and add it to the case record. )
According to Mr. Papantonio, Citizens United has already breached the veil and test cases are imminent challenging the separation of corporation from owner based on that steaming pile of, uh, jurisprudence. [font color=red]Add supernatural powers and suddenly [/font]"There's no distinction between the owner of a corporation and the corporate entity and then all of a sudden the protection...this corporate veil protection...that says you can't sue...the owner of the corporation no matter how bad their conduct is..." goes poof!
Mr Papantonio argues that the lack of amicus briefs is the corporate world's way of telegraphing to its fully owned subsidiary majority on the SCOTUS, inc., to Have fun with your God fit, but don't you dare rule in favor of these morans. Which places this, for me, on the kabuki shelf.
Thanks Mike!
much more plus sighs & crickets:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/28/1287909/-Papantonio-Hobby-Lobby-Is-DOA
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Hobby Lobby Is DOA (Supernatural Powers vs Corporate Personhood) (Original Post)
kpete
Mar 2014
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RKP5637
(67,102 posts)1. Yep! None, in the corporate world are going to stand for their armor being pierced. Their long held
shenanigans have always been shielded by their corporate armor.
IggleDoer
(1,186 posts)2. Birth Control saves corporations (and insurance companies) money.
If they gave birth control to everyone who wanted it, the cost would be far less than having to pay for the consequences (pregnancies, deliveries, and paid leave, etc.).
Hobby Lobby knows this - they use to include birth control in their insurance policies, until the ACA.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)3. come on
if this is ruled in HL favor I plan on going to one of their stores and getting a pap smear. I mean all their merchandise is eith discounter, BOGO, or clearance out. I will be saving my insurance co. a lot of money.
I wonder how long it would take the manager to start arresting women for trespassing.