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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:35 AM Mar 2014

What DC Democrats Don’t Get About Populism

http://www.thenation.com/blog/179013/what-dc-democrats-dont-get-about-populism-and-lot-america

Weiland speaks the language of the old-time populists. He says, “I was born here. I grew up on this land. It was ours because our democracy kept it that way. Today our democracy is being bought by big money and turned against us. To feed their profits we lose our jobs, our homes and our farms, our kids’ education, even our health, and the Congress they have bought looks the other way, or worse.”

The Democratic contender campaigns as the populists did, not with slick television commercials but on the road, with a commitment to visit every one of South Dakota’s 311 towns.

Why,” as the Washington-insider journal The Hill asked this week, “is South Dakota’s Rick Weiland getting [the] cold shoulder?”

As The Hill explains:

Rick Weiland will be the Democratic Senate nominee in South Dakota, but party leaders are less than thrilled about it.

Stuck with a candidate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has publicly trashed and a race the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee routinely leaves off its competitive list, the seat of retiring Sen. Tim Johnson, D-S.D., now looks like a lost cause for Democrats who face an increasingly difficult map to hold onto the Senate.
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. Populism is white supremacism thinly disguised as class consciousness
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:46 AM
Mar 2014

If that leopard has managed to change its spots, it's still going to need a lot of time before it's trustworthy again.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. Increase punishments for drug offenses. Eliminate parole. Increase drug testing.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:27 AM
Mar 2014

Decrease foreign aid. Decrease immigration quotas. Enact tariffs on global south countries. Increase military spending. Opposes even medical marijuana.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Rick_Weiland.htm

Leopards have a way of being spotted...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Favoring increased drug testing and elimination of parole is white supremacism.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:29 AM
Mar 2014

The war on drugs has been one of the biggest populist/white supremacist tools of the past several decades and he definitely is a big proponent.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Rick_Weiland.htm

Lasher

(27,556 posts)
6. You just linked his general On The Issues page, so I'm not sure where you are coming from.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:09 AM
Mar 2014

He supports drug testing for federal employees in sensitive positions. Do you think that makes him a white supremacist? I don't.

Please show how populism is white supremacy. You have only argued that the war on drugs has had racial implications in the past, but you have said nothing to establish that as fact. And even if we assume for the sake of argument that this could be so, you have not shown a direct link between populists and white supremacists. Surely some populists harbor racist attitudes, but it's quite a leap from there to your false dichotomy between populism and racism.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
7. Populism is working for the majority of the people
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:55 AM
Mar 2014

What about Populism as practiced by Elizabeth Warren and crew is white supremacy? Looking out for the general public is a key element of community and necessary for a just society. To me and most I believe that is what populism means. It does notr mean white supremacy, hell with the one percent we already have that, and populism is part of the fight against the one percent.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. Populism, at least as the term has been used until last year, is a style, not an ideology
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:28 AM
Mar 2014

It's a style of political engagement, not a political position. Its practitioners have run the ideological gamut from William Jennings Bryan to Huey P. Long to Charles Coughlin. But it has always been based on white downscale resentment. Like I said, it's possible this leopard can change its spots, but it will take a long time to prove it. Why people insist on calling Warren, et al, "populist" over the past couple of years, given what the term has actually meant, is beyond me (and notice they give the same label to Sarah Palin). Weiland's positions on crime and sentencing (get rid of parole, increase drug sentences, not even medical marijuana) fit in pretty well with the populist style, and that troubles me.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
16. If you aren't corporate enabler then you are a racist! This is what they are going with.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:09 PM
Mar 2014

I think many want a party more or less in line with Bob Corker with a "left wing" round about Jon Huntsman.

Lasher

(27,556 posts)
17. I don't want to seem mean spirited, but you clearly do not understand populism.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:37 PM
Mar 2014

A populist is the opposite of a libertarian, not that of either a liberal on the left or conservative on the right. Members of the Occupy movement were liberal economic populists. John Edwards said himself that he is a populist. Elizabeth Warren is a progressive populist. There are populist elements of the Tea Party but they are on the conservative side.

Maybe you will be receptive to this, I don't know. But I think you would benefit from reading this:

Populism in the United States

Or if you don't want to be guided by me, then please consider going to Google and searching on populism.

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
8. I went to Mr Weiland web site and there is very little on the site
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:16 AM
Mar 2014

as where he stands on the issues. However what little there is, is riddled with TeaHadist buzzwords

such as .....'Rick is running so that we can take back our country and our government'

http://rickweiland.com/priorities/

Personally I would not trust the guy nor give him any money or support until he becomes crystal clear as to where he stands on the issues such as abortion for starters.

See Abortion is one of the best litmus tests for a candidate there is, most anti choice individuals are as also against gay rights, equal opportunity, the obvious women's rights, global warming, and they are also typically religious loons. But that is just the way I see things.

If Democrats in SD think Mr Weiland is worthy to Send to DC as a Democrat then either I need to rethink why I am in the Democratic Party or the people of SD need reassess why they are Democrats if this is the best they can come up with.




smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
13. Nobody's perfect, but he's not bad at all.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:34 AM
Mar 2014

I don't expect to agree with anyone on every single issue.

Lasher

(27,556 posts)
14. He looks good on some economic issues.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:58 AM
Mar 2014

That is particularly appealing to me because we need people to oppose the economic neoliberalism that is prevalent in both parties.

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