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Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:01 PM Mar 2012

Why are we even arguing about ObamaCare aka RomneyCare 2.0?

Why are we even letting the health care argument get framed this way? We Democrats seem to have a problem with letting the other side frame the debate for us. We should be ignoring these distractions and pushing for Medicare for All.

Let's re-frame the debate.

http://medicareforall.org

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Why are we even arguing about ObamaCare aka RomneyCare 2.0? (Original Post) Zalatix Mar 2012 OP
Because they're still selling ACA zipplewrath Mar 2012 #1
How can you ever take a giant-step if you are unable to take a baby-step? FSogol Mar 2012 #2
Because the GOP views this presidency as one with a binary solution: ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #3

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. Because they're still selling ACA
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:05 PM
Mar 2012

Because the advocates for ACA are still trying to convince us that ACA was the right answer. They're still trying to make the case that mandates were a good thing and that nothing better could be achieved. Because they know they've killed any chance at single payer of medicare for all for the better part of 20 years and so they have to fight like hell just to keep what they've accomplished.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
2. How can you ever take a giant-step if you are unable to take a baby-step?
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:10 PM
Mar 2012

Did anyone notice how hard it was to get at least this much of the healthcare bill enacted? How long it took? How much political capital it took? This bill helps a lot of people. It is a good first step when viewed in the history of healthcare reform.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
3. Because the GOP views this presidency as one with a binary solution:
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:11 PM
Mar 2012

If he wins, on anything, they lose. So their game plan is to prevent, by any and all means, any victory on his part.

Conversely, if they win, America loses, but they simply do not care.

It is not so much Obamacare, given its Bob Dole, Heritage, and RMoney roots, as it is a fishbone stuck in the craw of every racist, conservative, christian GOPer who hates everything this president represents.

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