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H2O Man

(73,510 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:31 PM Apr 2014

Set


If I have a problem, I prefer to think about it while outside. Since I live in a rural area, and consider myself fortunate: I've been able to spend a lot of time walking paths in the woods, visiting a beautiful waterfalls, and sitting out near my pond. Some of that time, I'm by myself; other times, one or more of my dogs accompany me.

I know that many people prefer urban life, which is understandable. People have differences. And many individuals tend to deal with problems differently in their youth, than in their older ages. Some prefer group settings, and others solitude. That's a good thing.

As I walked along a snow-covered path near the creek last week, I was thankful for that opportunity. I have walked that path since long before I bought my house; next month will mark my owning this house longer than anyone else, since it was built in the 1790s. When I bought the place, a neighbor ("Old Fred&quot who lived here in the 1950s would walk that same path with me, and we would talk about local history.

It was twenty years ago that an area newspaper reporter ask me for something to use in her article about religion. I talked to Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman, and he okayed me sharing a poem with the reporter. It's a song, actually, from the Mid-Winter ceremonies. The lyrics speak of snow melting, and tiny streams flowing down the hills, and how that water is medicine.

I can hear the water running under the icy patches along the creek. The creek itself is covered with ice -- including a build-up of large sheets of ice collected below the waterfalls. The sound of a smaller stream meeting the larger creek -- all under ice -- makes beautiful music. Such music is soothing and healing. Medicine for this old man's ears.

I'm reminded that long, long ago, a teenager named Daniel Dickinson worked here, at a "cloth-and-carding factory" at the falls. My 8-year old son found a mill stone there, several inches beneath the soil, the year we moved there. Today, I'm looking for another type of stone: those which withstand the heat of fire, without shattering.

I'm an old man, and I don't know how many more springs I will have the opportunity to walk this lovely path. So I concentrate on enjoying every second of it. I greet the blue jays that sound their warning: "Human alert! Human alert!" And I find the delta, where the stream enters the creek. It is bare of ice, much like in the summer, these "lack-a-wannas" (where two streams meet) will be clear of fog. There is gravel and piles of cobble stones showing. I carry out a number of cobbles, and notice a large sandstone rock -- bigger than a volleyball -- near where a tree was uprooted.

Over the past few days, I've collected all the stones I need. I've also moved enough firewood out to the fire pit near my pond in the past three weeks. I had asked for some help from the young folks who wanted to participate in ceremony. But young folk are always busy, and so it ended up just me doing all the preparation.

There are no coincidences: either everything has meaning, or everything is meanless, despite the values our culture assigns. I value my time alone. I realize that, as I consider my many problems, I alone am responsible for all of my choices -- and the actions that result from those choices. Loneliness, on the other hand, is the dark side of being alone. Both sides weigh heavily.

***** ***** ****** ****** ***** ****** ******* *******

I made the platform and fire from oak, cherry, hemlock, blue spruce, locus, white pine, and hickory. The stones include sandstone, flint, and granite.

The pond is covered with ice. There are small gaps, where the mountain streams flow into the pond. When I move away from the fire, I can hear springs gurgling over.

I fill the bird-feeders my daughters have hung for me, and watch as the chickadees feast. Other small song birds begin to visit the familiar feeders. Chief Waterman instructed me to listen carefully to the tunes of the smallest song birds.

Soon, two friends come from opposite directions. Their work-day is over, and they are happy it is now the weekend. The first brings three gallons of water, one for each of us during ceremony. I've brought 16 gallons of water to pour during ceremony. Although it is chilly out, as the stones are brought into the lodge -- and sage is sprinkled on them -- the red-hot rocks begin to sing.

I am equally happy to conduct ceremony alone, or with others. I know the advantages that groups offer. Yet, as I consider one "problem," I realize that the answer can alone be identified by me, alone. After I reach that answer, I may bring it to other groups of people. But there is no other human being that can influence my final decision. That is up to me to decide.

The ceremony goes well. It is very hot, but not too hot, inside. The third person, here for the first time, volunteers to bring the rocks in for the two last rounds. This is good, because old men like me can grow tired. That's a young man's job.

I've known him less than a year. He is proud to be an atheist, who questions everything. He strikes me as very ethical, even spiritual. I was a little surprised he wanted to be here. Inside the lodge, I told him some things about his childhood that he had forgotten. I'm confident that, in the future, he will help me with stones and fire wood.

***** ***** ****** ***** ****** ***** ****** ******

Tom Libous is the most powerful republican in NYS politics. He has been in the state senate for a long time. The Koch brothers contribute generously to him. He is the lap dog of the local "energy" industry.

In 2010 and 2011, Libous worked with Governor Andrew Cuomo on a plan to make the Southern Tier a sacrifice area for the gas industry. Grass roots opposition put this plan in check. Libous was unwilling to meet with anyone from the pro-environment side, and so in 2012, I engaged in a "hunger strike" until Libous finally met me me.

In the time since then, Libous has been named as a politician seeking to use influence to secure employment for his son, in a federal "mob" trial in NYC. Later, it was reported that Libous lied in telling the state that neither he nor his wife had any financial interest in hydrofracking. In reality, both Senator and Mrs. Libous have significant investments in fracking.

I'm thinking about this, as I walk out to my pond. It's much warmer today; almost 60 degrees, and sunny. I fill the bird-feeders, and within minutes, the chickadees are there. The ice has melted off half of the pond. A million minnows and a number of Koi come to where I've tossed in fish food. There is but one dead fish, exposed by the ice melt. My dog Kelly, who loves the pond, sniffs the dead fish out quickly.

Kelly wades into the water, snatches the fish, and carries it to shore. He acts as if that fish were alive: tossing it with a twist of his head, pouncing upon it, and pawing it with a series of rapid jabs. He is a white dog, with blue spots, and it appears like he is dancing with the dead fish. I'm laughing out loud, and his tail begins wagging faster and faster.

The Koi in the still-cold water are moving in low gear. It appears to be slow-motion. After maybe half-an-hour's feeding, they swim faster. A few break the surface to grab food.

If Tom Libous is re-elected, the water from these tiny streams, creeks, ponds, and waterfalls will be destroyed by the poisons used in hydrofracking. The registered democrats in our region do not get to select who will run against him; each time, they pick someone who has patiently waited their turn to get destroyed by the republican machine.

A fairly wide range of people have asked me to run against Libous. Numerous democrats, members of the democratic left, and even some republicans have told me that they want me to run. The county chairpersons are less encouraging, noting their lack of influence in deciding on the candidate. In my opinion -- and I'm not alone -- the last fellow was channeling the spirit of Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh.

I'm a tired old man. I'm deemed 100% physically disabled. My physical health has seriously deteriorated since being deemed 100% disabled. I think that my mind is still relatively intact, although others might disagree.

If there was a better person to challenge Libous this year, I would be the very first to support her/him. Gladly. Fully.

But I do not see that person.

I walked in from my pond, and contacted the NYS Democratic Party HQ. I said that I want to be the candidate to challenge Libous. I have 40+ years of grass roots activism for the Democratic Party. I've ran numerous "local" elections in recent years, and have a winning record. I can get the votes of the party, the democratic left, and rational republicans.

I haven't heard back. So I wait, alone ..... but pretty soon, I may ask others to e-mail the Democratic HQ in Albany, to lobby for me.

Thank you,
H2O Man
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Wow! I wish for you many good helpers. scarletwoman Apr 2014 #1
Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Apr 2014 #28
Excellent. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #2
Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2014 #16
You have assets that would serve you well as a state senator. pacalo Apr 2014 #3
Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2014 #17
Thank you, H2O Man, for standing up. I praise your invincible spirit and I hope get to run and win! The Wielding Truth Apr 2014 #4
Thanks! H2O Man Apr 2014 #18
Please keep us informed of how this turns out. I know many people up here who are totally opposed sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #34
I have been reading your posts for awhile now and I can see the depth of your commitments. The Wielding Truth Apr 2014 #44
This thread is beautiful in so many ways, H20 Man Samantha Apr 2014 #5
Beautiful on so many levels. FourScore Apr 2014 #6
If I lived in your state defacto7 Apr 2014 #7
Such a beautiful post. You described perfectly the place in Upstate NY where we live, though we are sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #8
This is so very beautifully lived and written Hekate Apr 2014 #9
I'm originally from the Southern Tier and proReality Apr 2014 #10
Most excellent post! PotatoChip Apr 2014 #11
It is always a joy to read your posts, H2O Man. brer cat Apr 2014 #12
K&R marions ghost Apr 2014 #13
You would be great for the environment malaise Apr 2014 #15
Give 'em a combination they can't stand. Octafish Apr 2014 #19
You running for office is the best news of the week Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #20
You're a brave man. malthaussen Apr 2014 #21
K&R a substantial amount and a whole bunch. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #22
Fantastic! panader0 Apr 2014 #23
That's right. alberg Apr 2014 #24
Whoot!!!! That's GREAT H2O Man! loudsue Apr 2014 #25
K&R n/t handmade34 Apr 2014 #26
Beautiful as always H2O Man livetohike Apr 2014 #27
I'm not going to wish you good luck, Patrick. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #29
appears to be a tough district hfojvt Apr 2014 #33
Perhaps if the Dem Party gets behind candidates like H20Man those numbers will change. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #48
well let's hope so hfojvt Apr 2014 #53
People vote for their own interests, and in this part of NY this is huge issue right now. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #54
I am going to wish you luck hfojvt Apr 2014 #30
Excellent post Beringia Apr 2014 #31
Wishing you well, old friend. immoderate Apr 2014 #32
K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #35
Please post a link forus to email our support for a real democrat. Vincardog Apr 2014 #36
I could have kept reading this piece for hours. Luck and Prayers to you H20 Man..n/t monmouth3 Apr 2014 #37
k&r... spanone Apr 2014 #38
You should start your journey..... llmart Apr 2014 #39
That is a very good idea, to share these thoughts with the voters, the reason why he made this sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #49
Wow... Thank You For That... HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #40
Last week, after I read your "Rise" essay, I had a very powerful "notion" to Zorra Apr 2014 #41
I think you have a calling Mr. H2O, I'll help anyway I can. AAO Apr 2014 #42
If I still lived in NYS. you would have my vote. Raine1967 Apr 2014 #43
Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2014 #45
Very Cool! ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #46
Awesome! n/t coeur_de_lion Apr 2014 #47
I want to thank H2O Man Apr 2014 #50
I wish we had candidates like you everywhere RobertEarl Apr 2014 #51
Beautifully written. Frustratedlady Apr 2014 #52
that touched me BelgianMadCow Apr 2014 #55

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
1. Wow! I wish for you many good helpers.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:43 PM
Apr 2014

I have every faith that you can win!

Please be sure to take care of your health.

H2O Man

(73,510 posts)
14. Thank you.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:05 AM
Apr 2014

Gandhi taught that if we are doing what is right, we will always meet the right people, at the right time. I've found that to be true, many times in this strange life I've lived.

Response to scarletwoman (Reply #1)

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
3. You have assets that would serve you well as a state senator.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:47 AM
Apr 2014

You're a great communicator, intelligent & thoughtful in using it, & good Democratic values.

I wish you the very best of luck, H2O Man!


H2O Man

(73,510 posts)
17. Thank you.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:35 AM
Apr 2014

In recent years, our party has acted as if Libous cannot be beaten. While it is a heavily republican area, it is possible to win. But it requires a candidate who can unite the Democratic Party with the Democratic Left, and a portion of republican voters.

Instead, Albany has selected candidates who do not appeal to anyone, except perhaps their families and friends. They are incapable of creating even a ripple of excitement, much less a wave. Thus, each time, the Democratic Left runs a candidate; that person actually takes votes from progressive/liberal democrats. And very few, if any, republicans are interested in casting a vote for a sure loser.

I'm not interesting in running, simply to make a statement. For I can make statements without subjecting myself to the pressures of a campaign. I like to win, and I hate losing. (smile) Also, I have always kept a mental tab of "numbers," in everything from village elections and school budget votes, to county and state contests. And the numbers are there, if the correct candidate runs the correct campaign. I'd like to take the opportunity to take my best shot at it.

H2O Man

(73,510 posts)
18. Thanks!
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:45 AM
Apr 2014

You know, I'm an old, long-retired boxer. And I think that the experiences from that phase of my life would suit me quite well for this contest.

A while back, my younger son -- now an amateur boxer -- visited me. He wanted to tell me that he had been thinking .... that I wasn't the fastest, the strongest, or the hardest puncher. Yet my record speaks for itself; more, he had seen how the top promoters etc reacted when they saw me at a fight card, decades after I hung up the gloves. So, my boy said, it had to be that I was so good, because I was the smartest in the ring.

I told him that was half of it. The other half was that I trained very hard. I was prepared for anything and everything. And I was capable of going farther than anyone else. Both mentally and physically, I was prepared to go to that next level.

And that is exactly what I am prepared to do in this year's election.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Please keep us informed of how this turns out. I know many people up here who are totally opposed
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:57 PM
Apr 2014

to fracking, most of them farmers but feel helpless to fight the Corporate influences they are up against.

I can't think of anyone who would be better for the job.

The Wielding Truth

(11,411 posts)
44. I have been reading your posts for awhile now and I can see the depth of your commitments.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:44 PM
Apr 2014

I can see that you are a force to be reckoned with.

Your fight for clean water is something that gives me hope that fracking will not ruin our fresh water supply. It is truly frightening to think of our fresh water supply being trifled with by irresponsible greedy big corporations. The shale is under our land. They have to come to us. Why are the states giving it away? Why aren't the states making sure the chemicals used are not toxic?Now that the dangers of fracking are exposed with the release of more methane and the cause of earthquakes, it is obvious to me that fracking at all, is not worth the risk.

Your struggle has not gone unnoticed. Thank you.
Bless you and God speed to your new goal!

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
5. This thread is beautiful in so many ways, H20 Man
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:32 AM
Apr 2014

I am so happy you have decided to run, and I look forward to updates from you on this.

I do not know how old is "old" -- with regard to your comment you are an old man. But after seeing former President Jimmy Carter recently, I believe he is 90, I do not believe he is old. This man is truly with it. And so are you. So get ready -- you have an election to win.

Regards,

Sam

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
6. Beautiful on so many levels.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:52 AM
Apr 2014

NYS needs you H2O Man. The Southern Tier needs you. This is excellent news!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. Such a beautiful post. You described perfectly the place in Upstate NY where we live, though we are
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 02:42 AM
Apr 2014

probably quite far from you. I would be more than happy to email the Democratic Party in support of you. Just let us know.

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
9. This is so very beautifully lived and written
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 02:46 AM
Apr 2014

I hope you can do this -- May you find strength and friendship and loyalty (and $$$$$) in the days and months to come.

I have zero understanding of NY State geography so please excuse a dumb question. Is Wilseyville in your district? I know someone who moved out there and bought a few acres to make a farm. To say she is opposed to fracking is putting it mildly; she taught me what it is. I doubt she has the energy or inclination for politicking, but she votes and so do her organic farmer can-their-own-food friends. I would be pleased to pass your name and campaign contact info along once you make your decision final.

All the best from 3,000 miles away,

Hekate

proReality

(1,628 posts)
10. I'm originally from the Southern Tier and
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:19 AM
Apr 2014

if I see that you're running, I'm telling all my NY friends and relatives they need to vote for you.

No matter what happens though, you definitely need to write a book about your life. I'll be in line to buy the first copy.

Mita kuye ayasin

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
11. Most excellent post!
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:32 AM
Apr 2014

I'd vote for you without one bit of hesitation if I lived in your area. Your home sounds like a lovely place, btw.

I wish you the best of luck!

brer cat

(24,524 posts)
12. It is always a joy to read your posts, H2O Man.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 06:51 AM
Apr 2014

You seek out the peace and calm that living with nature brings, and express it so well I can hear the "songs" in your writing.

I am also glad that you are up to another challenge in your old age. I suspect that you are stronger than many of the younger folks you were waiting to see take on Libous. Best of luck to you! I know that you will serve NY well.



 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. You running for office is the best news of the week
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:13 AM
Apr 2014

I endorse you instantly. Of course keep us all posted so we can lean on our friends and families in the area and offer any sort of support you want. NY needs you, you are called by the land.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
21. You're a brave man.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:20 AM
Apr 2014

I can't vote for you since I don't live in NY, but you strike me as the kind of man the Democratic Party in your area needs to nominate if they are serious about changing things for the better.




-- Mal

panader0

(25,816 posts)
23. Fantastic!
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:49 AM
Apr 2014

Let us know what we can do to help you.
I also have some questions about your sweat lodge. Dimensions and materials.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
25. Whoot!!!! That's GREAT H2O Man!
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:45 AM
Apr 2014

That is the best idea I've heard in a long time!!! Go for it! I wish you the very best of luck in the world!!

livetohike

(22,123 posts)
27. Beautiful as always H2O Man
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:25 PM
Apr 2014
I am there with you on the path, next to the streams, at the waterfalls and pond and in Spirit in the lodge.

You are called to run for office. No better time than now, before the frackers destroy anymore of the life giving waters and land that we love.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
29. I'm not going to wish you good luck, Patrick.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:58 PM
Apr 2014

Instead, I'm just going to hope and pray that you will win.

That would be good fortune for your district, but maybe not for you, considering the grind you will face both before and after victory.

There is nobody whose wisdom and judgment I respect more than yours.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
33. appears to be a tough district
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:56 PM
Apr 2014

Orzel got beaten pretty badly in 2012
71,912 to 37,856

And I don't see how somebody could lose channelling EOR, but that's what would happen.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
48. Perhaps if the Dem Party gets behind candidates like H20Man those numbers will change.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:43 PM
Apr 2014

I live in upstate NY, and people are extremely concerned about the threat to their lands which in their case, IS their living.

A candidate who is willing to fight 'city hall' to stop the threat to their farms and homes regardless of political affiliation has a very good chance now of being elected.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
54. People vote for their own interests, and in this part of NY this is huge issue right now.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:39 PM
Apr 2014

If the Dem party doesn't accept him as a candidate, perhaps he can run anyhow. Then he doesn't need to flip votes, just represent the people who definitely need strong representation to turn the tide on this issue. There's so much money to be made from this most destructive business that it will be a difficult fight. But if anyone can do it, H20Man can. At this point what effects people's lives directly is of the utmost importance to them. The Dem Party would be wise to back a candidate like this.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
30. I am going to wish you luck
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:41 PM
Apr 2014

although I am confused about your candidate selection process. Do you just mean that you get out-voted by Binghamton?

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
31. Excellent post
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:43 PM
Apr 2014

I enjoyed reading it. One thought I had, was you might want to aim at doing the best campaigning you can and if you don't succeed, try again. The 2nd or 3rd time might be the charm, with people learning who you are and that you are committed.
 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
32. Wishing you well, old friend.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:52 PM
Apr 2014

It seems that nature needs you. I hope this task energizes you. Give 'em hell! (so to speak)

--imm

llmart

(15,533 posts)
39. You should start your journey.....
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 06:16 PM
Apr 2014

by submitting this extremely eloquent essay you've just shared with us in your local newspaper.

I was very touched by it and could envision everything so clearly, and then you had me at "fracking"

My son lived in upstate NY for a couple of years and when I would visit him I would be in awe of the beauty of some of the areas. This just has to be protected from the likes of the Kochs and who better than you?

Please do the environment a favor and run. Even if you lose, you will never regret not trying.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
49. That is a very good idea, to share these thoughts with the voters, the reason why he made this
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:45 PM
Apr 2014

decision. It is moving and the issues are huge, to almost everyone who lives upstate NY.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
41. Last week, after I read your "Rise" essay, I had a very powerful "notion" to
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:16 PM
Apr 2014

ask you to run for office.

Thank you for making this decision to serve. You would be a dedicated, conscientious, and I believe, an incorruptible state senator.

Offering my support from out West, and donations (meager as they may be).


Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
43. If I still lived in NYS. you would have my vote.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:37 PM
Apr 2014

If i lived in your district I would vote for you.

Here is the man that lives is in my former district: http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/terry-gipson

I know him and his wife. They would welcome you candidacy. If you are willing, I would like to send them a copy of this post. I'd lobby for you.

Terry overcame amazing odds -- It was his first foray into NYS politics. It was grassroots that got him the win.

I wish you success, H2O Man.

H2O Man

(73,510 posts)
50. I want to thank
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 10:09 PM
Apr 2014

everyone who responded -- by posting, recommending, or both -- to this OP. I surely do appreciate it.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
51. I wish we had candidates like you everywhere
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:24 PM
Apr 2014

So you realize there is something special with you, eh?

What is most important, besides the obvious, is getting the message out.

Hope you continue to feel good. Asking for continued and increased blessings may be required?

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
52. Beautifully written.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:53 AM
Apr 2014

May I extend my best wishes to you for a successful run for office? I, too, am in my later years and am devastated by the fracking and oil lines scarring our landscape. We have seen pristine...we can't tolerate destruction.

Good luck! You know DU members will be behind you, no matter what state they are from. Go get `em.

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