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Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:08 AM

 

The L word, still embarrassing conservatives in both parties.

When Republican leadership campaigns, they talk about conservative values, conservative voting record, conservative policies, etc.

When was the last time Democratic leadership used the word liberal?

Apparently a long time. I never did find and answer but found this instead...

“Liberal” became a dirty word in American politics for two reasons. First, a combination of Democratic leaders perceived as ineffectual — George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis — helped tarnish the term. However, these individuals alone did not cause liberalism’s disappearance; after all, one does not see a similar aversion to conservatism because of Nixon, Bush and other Republican failures. The second and more important reason was that conservatives successfully conducted a campaign against the term, transfiguring it from a philosophy of freedom and social mobility into a bureaucracy-loving, freedom-depriving, taxation-and-entitlement ideology of largesse. Conservatives linked liberalism with the turmoil of the ’60s and stagflation of the ’70s, as well as the various foreign policy crises of that decade, and liberals themselves disowned the term. In vulgarizing the word liberal and polluting its definition, Republicans put Democrats on the permanent defensive. It was an act of staggering political genius.

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/im_proud_to_say_im_a_liberal_how_conservatives_vulgarized_a_term_and_why_the_left_must_reclaim_it/



Democratic Leadership needs to stop being embarrassed by liberals - you know, we are against spying, is it really that hard to understand why? And NAFTA/TPP, why should we celebrate more jobs to Asia and lower wages for US workers? The median wage has barely moved since 1970s - unlike price of housing, food, health care, education, fuel, etc. We have states approaching 3rd world levels of poverty, yet we have money for 100s of billions worth of citizen surveillance and drone development? We are sending millions of jobs (new and old) and R&D to India and China. What's so unfashionable about putting America first?

Seriously - why so embarrassed by any opposition to these destructive policies, regardless of political affiliation?

Do you think being against spying or demanding justice for torture or CEO crime means you have to wear tie dye and sing folk songs?

Is that what this is about? Is Democratic leadership so superficial that they are afraid to stand up for and clearly articulate liberal values because it isn't "cool"?

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Reply The L word, still embarrassing conservatives in both parties. (Original post)
pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 OP
Fumesucker Apr 2014 #1
reddread Apr 2014 #2
Bandit Apr 2014 #3
reddread Apr 2014 #4
pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #7
CrispyQ Apr 2014 #5
pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #10
Octafish Apr 2014 #6
pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #8
WillyT Apr 2014 #9

Response to pragmatic_dem (Original post)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:56 AM

1. Who do your Senators/Representatives mingle with socially?

Do they mingle with the tie died folk singing 99% or do they mingle with the 0.01% at Georgetown dinner parties?





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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:22 AM

2. dont be greedy. we cant all have representation

 

the kind of people who would prioritize the concerns of the lower classes are "unelectable"
"not serious" "protest candidates" "spoilers" and a million other terms of derision straight out of Atwater and Rove's playbook and handed around by suckers, victims and perpetrators.

Only if people vote for the candidates in their own income strata, candidates who dont chase the money God, is there a chance.
If only.

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Response to reddread (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:15 AM

3. You do that at the local level

Republicans figured that out and look what they have accomplished since 2010. They are positioning themselves for a permanent majority and complete control of America. You may think Congress and the Administration are the controlling interest in America but they are not. Mayors, City Councilmen, and State Legislators and Governors. That is where the control really lies and you can bet your bottom dollar that is where the great majority of wealthy Republican money will be spent.

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Response to Bandit (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 10:18 AM

4. the controlling interest is $ and it owns EVERYTHING

 

but you can look at it any way you like.

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Response to Bandit (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:41 PM

7. I fear it is too late, we will soon see school board candidates spending $1,000,000

 

if it hasn't happened already.

The moral hazard genie is out of the bottle and can never be put back in.

The non-rich have no representation.

Democratic Leadership hasn't the courage to fight back. There's too much money to be made by comforting the rich.

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Response to pragmatic_dem (Original post)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 10:43 AM

5. The dems are weak. They have been since they ran from the word liberal,

when a two bit actor poked fun at the word. They should have stood proud & said, "Hell yes we're liberal & here's why," and then read the Joe Conservative essay. But no, they tucked tail & ran from the word & now, many of our party are on the same gravy train as the repubs.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:50 PM

10. For example, why should a person who is not a heterosexual, call themselves

 

centersexual and make up a bullshit story to about how fair it is that heterosexuals can discriminate against them since they are so embarrassing?

If someone is afraid of the word liberal then perhaps the Republican Party is the right place for them.

I guess conservatives have figured out that they can push weak Democratic leadership to the right much easier than they can push Republicans to the left.

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Response to pragmatic_dem (Original post)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 11:41 AM

6. Great post.

It's a subject of interest to DUers. In 2004:

Call me “Liberal!”

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:41 PM

8. Great post as well! nt

 

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Response to pragmatic_dem (Original post)

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:43 PM

9. K & R !!!

 


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