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RandySF

(58,772 posts)
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:23 PM May 2014

Dallas judge who asked victim if she cried during rape has recused herself from case

First some background provided in a great Dkos post:

1. A 14-year old girl is raped by 18-year old self-confessed rapist.
2. Judge gives rapist only 45-day jail sentence after facing 20 years.
3. Judge defers rapist's 5-year probation - no need for him to get any help.
4. Judge orders rapist to do community service at rape crisis center.
5. Judge asks victim during trial, several times, if she cried during the rape.
6. Judge tells press, "She's not the victim she claims to be." - not a virgin.
Now go back to #1 where it says, 'girl is raped'.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/03/1296542/-Dallas-Judge-Asks-Victim-If-She-Cried-During-Rape-5-More-Actions-That-Make-This-Judge-Unfit


Now the recusal:

State District Judge Jeanine Howard has recused herself from the case of a rapist she sentenced to five years probation.

Howard’s decision came Friday in reaction to the fallout from last week’s sentence for 20-year-old Sir Young, who admitted to raping a 14-year-old girl at Booker T. Washington High School for the Performing and Visual Arts, where both were students. Young was 18 at the time of the 2011 assault.

n addition to the sentence, Young does not have to stay away from children, attend sex offender treatment, undergo sex offender evaluation or refrain from watching pornography.

Howard told The Dallas Morning News that she gave Young his light sentence in part because his victim wasn’t a virgin and “wasn’t the victim she claimed to be.” She declined to comment Friday beyond the statements she made Thursday night.

After Howard’s recusal, the case is now assigned to state District Judge Carter Thompson.


http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/05/dallas-judge-recuses-herself-from-case-of-admitted-rapist-sentenced-to-probation.html/
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Dallas judge who asked victim if she cried during rape has recused herself from case (Original Post) RandySF May 2014 OP
wow, that's seriously one fucked up judge... dionysus May 2014 #1
Appointed by Bush edhopper May 2014 #2
i expect sexism from a RW judge usually, but the female misogynists particularly creep me out. dionysus May 2014 #4
Me too. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #24
Unfortunately - elected Dem 840high May 2014 #26
ewww. :( dionysus May 2014 #27
+1 lunasun May 2014 #34
She's an elected Democrat malokvale77 May 2014 #5
That is edhopper May 2014 #6
What is dreadful? malokvale77 May 2014 #7
Her being a Dem edhopper May 2014 #23
Yes malokvale77 May 2014 #40
That makes me want to vomit Dorian Gray May 2014 #25
It is sick malokvale77 May 2014 #42
She's trying to convince herself she could never be a victim Warpy May 2014 #8
Are you letting her off the hook? RandySF May 2014 #11
No warpy is not letting her off the hook. She is talking about how such a travesty enough May 2014 #15
Of course not. She needed to back away from this case because she botched it. Warpy May 2014 #16
plus 1000 Liberal_in_LA May 2014 #35
Unfortunately, she runs for election as a Dem. nt tblue37 May 2014 #3
Rape culture is bigger than one political party gollygee May 2014 #9
Which is why it's so frustrating when people dismiss these discussions as "male bashing." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #19
+1 gollygee May 2014 #21
disgustingly enough, the war against women is sometimes fought by women. niyad May 2014 #10
The war against women is systemic Cal Carpenter May 2014 #41
she should have been removed without any chance of recusing herself spanone May 2014 #12
Has anyone asked whether the victims race was a factor? RandySF May 2014 #13
why? TorchTheWitch May 2014 #22
I wonder if the victim was white... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #28
^^^ + 1,000 ^^^ eom DonViejo May 2014 #29
I see you're in Cleveland... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #31
Left Cleveland in 69...was just there a month ago for Dad's 87th... DonViejo May 2014 #32
My hometown is Steubenville... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #33
Twisted, disturbing, get this judge off the bench, for good. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #14
Any way they can revoke the probation and give him a 5-year sentence instead? n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #17
I'm sure the sentence will be appealed. RandySF May 2014 #18
I sure hope so. The guy needs to be put away for a few years at the least. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #20
It would be interesting to research the Judge's record... DonViejo May 2014 #30
Seriously? LisaL May 2014 #36
I guess she wants him to "learn a lesson." And who cares if he terrorizes others in the process? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #39
How disgusting. Somehow seems even worse coming from a female judge. LeftishBrit May 2014 #37
WTF sakabatou May 2014 #38
and Rape culture does not exist Texasgal May 2014 #43

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
42. It is sick
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:31 PM
May 2014

the Democratic party abandoned Texas decades ago. Anybody in Dallas can put a "D" by their name and get elected.

It's why I never vote a straight ticket. Another bad judge is Lynn Cherry. What a joke she is. Statewide we have the LaRouche candidate, running on the Dem ticket. It all makes the Democratic party look bad.

Wendy Davis is great, but the DGA won't back her. I think there is an agreement to let big oil and big business have Texas.

Vet these candidates, please.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
8. She's trying to convince herself she could never be a victim
Sat May 3, 2014, 06:13 PM
May 2014

You see a lot of this at work with women on juries, "what did she do to cause this that I can/do avoid?"

Shaming and blaming women for their own rape has to stop. Men are the perpetrators 99.99% of the time. Men are the ones who have to figure out how to stop this.

We're only the shattered remains of what a rapist leaves behind.

RandySF

(58,772 posts)
11. Are you letting her off the hook?
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:30 PM
May 2014

The perp admitted to being a rapist and Jeanine Howard was in a position to impose a sentence that fit the crime. To say that women are incapable of making sound legal judgements re. sexual crimes is to argue that they cannot hold judicial office (and we both know it's not true). And no one has asked whether she was so lax because the victim was likely African American.

enough

(13,256 posts)
15. No warpy is not letting her off the hook. She is talking about how such a travesty
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:40 PM
May 2014

could happen. We all have the tendency to think that anything we know, everybody else knows also. The fact is that many people currently alive, both male and female, are still living under the old conditioning about rape.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
16. Of course not. She needed to back away from this case because she botched it.
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:52 PM
May 2014

I've just tried to understand women like this and I think I do. I've picked their brains long enough.

Lawyers, especially for the prosecution, need to acknowledge this phenomenon and figure out how to address it. Their conviction rate on rapists is dismal.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
19. Which is why it's so frustrating when people dismiss these discussions as "male bashing."
Sat May 3, 2014, 08:14 PM
May 2014

Most of us, regardless of gender, have nothing to lose and everything to gain from an honest look at things.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
41. The war against women is systemic
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:16 PM
May 2014

Simply having women working within the system doesn't change the system.

It may help, particularly if those women are consciously challenging it, but it doesn't stop it, and those who do challenge it are often discredited and marginalized at the least, more likely punished/demoted/fired.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
22. why?
Sat May 3, 2014, 08:22 PM
May 2014

The rapist is black. She had no problem giving a black man who admitted to being a rapist such a light sentence while blaming the victim whatever her race. What's your point about the race of the victim? Trying to make this a racist issue instead of the sexist one it so obviously is?



 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
31. I see you're in Cleveland...
Sat May 3, 2014, 11:14 PM
May 2014

I lived there from 13-24. Moved to Texas in 1992. I really miss C town sometimes (especially in autumn- a season we don't have here).

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
32. Left Cleveland in 69...was just there a month ago for Dad's 87th...
Sat May 3, 2014, 11:17 PM
May 2014

What a city. Definitely NOT the city of the 60's and early 70's. I'm very proud of my hometown.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
20. I sure hope so. The guy needs to be put away for a few years at the least.
Sat May 3, 2014, 08:20 PM
May 2014

More so because his current (lack of a) sentence is a likely signal to others that they can rape with impunity.

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