Chris Christie is a glutton...

[malaise]

for punishment.

Given Bill Maher's recent comment on 'political correctness' and the reality that gluttony is frowned on in all cultures, did Joel McHale cross the line last night?

How can it be wrong to call a glutton a glutton? And speaking about Christie, why is it OK to all him a bully, but not a glutton if both are facts.

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[randys1]

1. I wont make fun of someones appearance or addiction issues

But the man is a filthy fucking bully jackass who doesnt deserve to pick up my garbage let alone run an entire state.

His popularity goes along with how half this country wants to rename Earth to Reagan, when in fact Reagan was a complete dumbass who fucked this country up so bad it is unrecognizable.

[dsc]

2. Have you seen him eat? Do you cook his food?

I have no earthly idea if he is overweight because he overeats or because his metabolism makes him gain weight with normal eating habits.

[malaise]

4. So when did this metabolism problem begin?

I am no medical doctor but someone needs to explain to me exactly when this metabolism problem began because he sure had no such problem in his youth.

Additionally why are there so many caricatures of him eating if that's not the truth?

This is Christie on Letterman - he chose this act.

[Brickbat]

20. "Additionally why are there so many caricatures of him eating if that's not the truth?"

Wow, listen to yourself.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

26. That is an interesting question

And I think the answer is actually simple if you separate what causes one to become perplexed about it.

Look at from where he stands ,the way to be in the favor of the fat cat's is to become one !It is what it is !

Robbie Ford checked into a rehab. center in Chicago. You might say he flew the coup.He is no Blue Jay !

I wonder where Christie would go ?

[moriah]

29. Why are you so obsessed with what the man does or does not eat?

Why the fuck does it matter in political discourse? Fat people know being fat is bad. They don't have to be told. They're told every day.

I don't want to defend the blowhard, and I wish people would stop posting threads about his weight so I didn't have to seem like I was.

[malaise]

30. This thread is not about weight

It is about gluttony and that is about food and not metabolism or bad eating habits often caused by poverty.

Calling a glutton a glutton has nothing to do with the genuine weight issues of other folks. Christie only decided to abandon food gluttony because he is also a glutton for power.

[Marr]

12. Gastric bypass (which Christie had done) is for people who eat too much. /nt

[malaise]

31. Correct n/t

[Fred Sanders]

3. Is it odd that an ad popped up for large size women's fashion on this thread page, because that is

kind of spooky.

Edit: I am not making that up.

[malaise]

5. LOL

They are watching everything


I had a month between subscriptions a year ago and it was unbelievable to see the invasive ads.

[pscot]

24. Get yourself a star

and the ads go away.

[Le Taz Hot]

6. Contrary to what everyone here seems to think

I think McHale went for the low-hanging fruit most of the night. I just didn't think he was funny. Christie fat jokes? Really?

[malaise]

7. I thought his parody of Christie's take on his bridgegate problem was brilliant

and when Christie attacked a doctor for raising medical problems associated with his size, then went on Letterman with that do-nut in mouth - & then suddenly decided he needed to staple his stomach so that he would lose weight to run in the presidential election, he made himself fair game.

The notion of fat cats is real. I don't see why he should get a pass.

McHale was hilarious to me - a little green, but very funny.

[Le Taz Hot]

8. I realize I'm in the minority here.

[Adrahil]

9. Yea for fat-shaming!!!! NT

[malaise]

10. Can there be a discussion about gluttony

as opposed to fat-shaming?

Can one be called out for being a glutton in the same way one can be called out for being a bully, etc.?

[Adrahil]

13. IMO....

Gluttony is almost always directed ONLY at fat people. Frankly, I think it's merely a way to deride a fat person for some kind of supposed lack of control, or some desire to consume more than their "fair share" as an example of consumption gone mad. Lots of academic work on this. Before pursuing this kind of argument, I suggest you peruse some of it. I highly recommend a book called "Bodies Out Of Bounds"

[malaise]

14. Out of control for me means the failure of self-mastery

which would include lack of discipline re punctuality and several other factors including lack of self control re food.

I do know a few skinny gluttons. There are people who lose control in the presence of food - particularly 'free food'.

[Adrahil]

15. Again, I highly recommend you read about this...

The kind of arguments you are making are WELL addressed in the academic literature. In particular, the whole "self-mastery" argument is ripped to shreds by a number of people using theory based on Michel Foucault, among others. Another book I recommend is The Fat Studies Reader.

[malaise]

16. I'm no fan of Foucault or the rest of the post-modernist gang

Sorry.

[Adrahil]

18. Welp... I dunno what to say then.... Welcome to 1920? NT

[Logical]

11. The DU is as rude about weight and looks as any right wing site....

I am amazed how many posters love to make fun of apearance.

[malaise]

17. When Christie showed up on Letterman and stuffed the do-nut in his mouth

What exactly was he doing?

[Ed Suspicious]

21. Defense mechanism. Getting out ahead of the jokes and ridicule.

That's classic overweight response. I guess if you have never been labeled fat, disgusting, and of low moral character you wouldn't know that.

[Adrahil]

22. Simple....

....he was attempting to blunt attacks on his weight by embracing them with humor. Classic tactic.


There is TONS to criticize Christy for. Being a "Glutton" is not one of them. In fact, these days, a fat person is more likely to be poor than rich.

[Logical]

23. Try to justify it all you want. Christie has plenty wrong with him politically....

but there are many overweight DUers you also insult with your childish justifications.

Some people here were bullies in High School and still want to be apparently.

[malaise]

25. So you don't think DUers and other folks can separate overweight from metabolism problems or

poverty from gluttony?

From everything I have seen and read Christie has political baggage, and is also a bully and a glutton.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. For some people, eating feels like all they have.

No judgement of character or quality should be made based upon a persons weight or what they eat.

[Ed Suspicious]

19. It's sickening.

[moriah]

28. Guess it's better than calling him a "beached whale". Way to stay classy!