Oh oh about to have a conversation with my very right wing cousin on Benghazi ....

[SummerSnow]

I'll give you the juicy details when were done


Done...now that was fast . It was short and sweet. OK. We exchanged pleasantries and he asked me about the White House Correspondents dinner and if I watched it. i told him I did. So then he went on about how dumb it is to watch that and he watched the Fox news special on the Benghazi cover up. He went on about Obama should be jailed blah blah blah, and Hilary should be too . So I said yes Benghazi was a tragedy and then I said to him' well what about those other Americans that was killed under Bush's watch? He started huffing and puffing about 9/11 blah blah blah. I said , I'm not talking about 9/11 . I'm talking about those embassies that were attacked under Bush's watch and Americans were killed. Then I sent him this...

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and I said look it up. Then I said i guess Bush covered those up too and how Americans lives don't important unless they are lost under Obama it seems. Then he said well yeah those lives are important too. I said so how come Fox news never ever talked about this? he said for me to hold on and I did then in a few seconds I got a dial tone. roflmao

[tiredtoo]

1. Hope you have some Wine or Beer during the conversation

Otherwise this will be a waste of time.

[lunasun]

7. +1 !! exactly

[alp227]

2. Send your cousin a copy of this book

Under Fire: The Untold Story of the Attack in Benghazi, by Fred Burton and Samuel M. Katz

As Media Matters notes, this book shoots down a lot of right wing mythology about the 9/11/12 attack.

[chrisstopher]

3. Give 'im hell

[JoePhilly]

4. Ask if he heard the recent jobs numbers ... aka ... JOBS-ghazi!!

[lordsummerisle]

5. Why

was he huffing and puffing about 9/11? Wasn't that one of the greatest intel failures in history?

[SummerSnow]

6. he hates when you bring up anything 9/11

cause he knew I was going to start talking about the fake wmd's the 9/11 report etc

[Chathamization]

8. That picture should be the default response anytime this comes up. N/T

[colsohlibgal]

9. Just Stunning Hypocrisy

So many killed at the WTC under Dubya's watch, here in the U.S, and you were somehow suspect and unpatriotic if you at all blamed Dubya and his staff for it. And yet...Obama is fair game for Bengazi, bad as it was it was with a fraction of the deaths and overseas.

Simply amazing.

[calimary]

10. If you need any more ammo, or graphics and images that are worth at least 4000 words/lives,

go HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024909114#post32

Or

here:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024902613

[gratuitous]

11. Delightful use of facts as bullshit disinfectant

A couple of other questions you might pose: "Now, I know that Ambassador Stevens was one of the Americans killed there. Who were the other three?" Or: "Benghazi. Now, what country is that in, again? Could you show me on this unmarked map?" Huffing and puffing will be the least of your concerns.

[egold2604]

12. Ask him where it is on the map.

[Shemp Howard]

13. Disengage!

Look, you will not be able to move your cousin politically. That's a fact, and you know it. And he will not be able to move you politically. That's a fact, and he should know it.

So any political conversation between the two of you can only cause hard feelings. So if you value your cousin otherwise, disengage. Stay away from political discussions. Don't attempt to "score points" at the expense of your friendship.

Put your political energy into things that will yield positive results. Volunteer for your favorite candidate, for example.

I say this because I had a good friend who admired Bush 43. I despise Bush 43. He is a murderer and a war criminal. So I told my friend exactly how I felt. I lost a good friend. And I gained nothing.

We both would have been better off if I had talked about hockey instead. Peace.

[passiveporcupine]

14. Once again, be careful how you frame this defense

Of all the attacks listed in the OP, there may have been only one American death.

March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/12/1130950/-If-diplomatic-attacks-are-a-sign-of-weakness-Bush-was-the-weakest-of-all#

I have not researched all of the attacks in the OP's list, but the two highest death counts I did, and no American's were killed. And in Daily Kos's article, they only list one American Death, which I assume they would have highlighted if American's were killed in the other attacks.

The problem here, in saying "American deaths", instead of just "deaths" is in giving the right wing any "error" to build a defense on. They probably only care about American deaths. After all there are terror attacks all the time with people getting killed in other countries, and it's only the four Americans in Benghazi that seem to get their panties in a wad.

Using 9/11 is a much better argument, because that happened right here on our own ground. But then the Boston marathon attack happened here too, under Obamas watch. So be careful with that.

The right is only using Benghazi as a distraction because it is election year. And they may continue to use it until 2016 for the same reason...to swing elections. Just watch how quickly they drop it once 2016 elections are done.

[Skittles]

15. be sure to followup with this

yes INDEED

[Sarah Ibarruri]

16. Oh, so he hung up on you? Sore loser. Silly man too. nt