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spanone

(135,789 posts)
Mon May 5, 2014, 08:14 PM May 2014

supreme court: If you don't like it, leave the room.

worse supreme court ever...imho

That's the essence of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy's advice for atheists and others who object to sectarian prayers before government meetings.

In a 5-4 decision written by Kennedy, the Supreme Court allowed Greece, New York, to continue hosting prayers before its monthly town board meetings - even though an atheist and a Jewish citizen complained that the benedictions are almost always explicitly Christian.

Many members of the country's majority faith - that is, Christians - hailed the ruling.

Many members of minority faiths, as well as atheists, responded with palpable anger, saying the Supreme Court has set them apart as second-class citizens.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/05/supreme-court-religious-minorities-dont-have-a-prayer/?hpt=hp_t1

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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
7. A few things,
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:53 PM
May 2014

that doesn't make their ruling right. And the Senate is a wholly different body. While the prayer and chaplain practice should be done away with and is likely unconstitutional, it has been opening with prayer for a very long time. The town in case had only recently started. It lacked the tradition angle. And, the town meetings in question are the only way to petition the local government. It is the sole venue to have your voice heard. So, it is more coercive than the opinion suggested.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
8. The Senate also has guest chaplains of many faiths give the opening prayer
Mon May 5, 2014, 10:28 PM
May 2014

Despite the objections of the lunatics in the gallery...

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
10. If someone interrupted a christian prayer, they'd scream persecution
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:42 AM
May 2014

until they were blue in the face.

But of course, this is ok.

mucifer

(23,477 posts)
13. Ok I kinda take back what I said. The religious leader was so intimidated
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:35 AM
May 2014

he couldn't look up. That was scary. I feel really bad for him. The right wing christians wouldn't have done that to a rabbi. They are total hypocrites.

mucifer

(23,477 posts)
2. I suppose I should be more bothered by it. I'm Jewish. To me compared to
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:14 PM
May 2014

everything the supreme court has done, I really don't care about this. They aren't saying I can't pray.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
11. No, they aren't.
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:43 AM
May 2014

They are creating a slippery slope and greasing it. What do you think some of these radical Christian theocrats are going to do with this? It will certainly embolden them. Look at what the McCutcheon decision has done for big money donors. Look at the effects of some of the legislation in states on guns. You should be concerned. There is a streak of insanity in this nation now that is absolutely frightening given where it will possibly be taken by those who refuse to acknowledge "the other" of whatever stripe.

mucifer

(23,477 posts)
12. I just feel that in some places these meetings have been started with
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:13 AM
May 2014

Christian prayers for hundreds of years. It's not the same as McCutheon.

rurallib

(62,377 posts)
3. Will the Roberts Court eventually considered the worst?
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:16 PM
May 2014

Definitely on its way.
I have no what Court is considered the worst - I would guess the Taney Court pre Civil War.
But Roberts and gang seems to be trying hard

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
4. I usually just sit and chat
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:24 PM
May 2014

fuck em and their sky wizard fantasies.

Personally I'm waiting for Dearborn to hold some Islamic prayers before a meeting, then we'll see Pat Robertson do a little sweating.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
5. I admittedly haven't followed prior rulings
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:37 PM
May 2014

Usually when they accept such a case there is some ambiguity in the body of precedent that they are trying to address, or to change an existing precedent. Is this why they took it?

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
6. Use the time to caucus with others.
Mon May 5, 2014, 09:45 PM
May 2014

Essentially, start the meeting without them. No one said you have to be quiet about it, either.

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