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I always thought that Monica was paid well to tempt Clinton. (Original Post) appleannie1 May 2014 OP
This will go better if we can work the words "harlot" and "slattern" into the narrative. Orrex May 2014 #1
And "brazen hussy". (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #6
The brazen hussies are always the worst. Orrex May 2014 #7
She'll grift as much as she can & rapidly fade into the relevant news dust bin. misterhighwasted May 2014 #2
"Under her rock"? Throd May 2014 #3
It all seemed just the way things happen to me. Shrike47 May 2014 #4
how can I say this without sounding harsh? Enrique May 2014 #5
I don't think so. Regardless, he was the master of his own demise politically. chrisa May 2014 #8
What demise? MoonRiver May 2014 #11
Demise?! Why? Because he didn't have a third term? Because his wife might be President?! WinkyDink May 2014 #35
It is well-known that her family are big Dem supporters YarnAddict May 2014 #9
Who gives a shit that she gave a blowjob to Clinton? giftedgirl77 May 2014 #10
Wait! She did what?!? Orrex May 2014 #14
Yeah I said it. giftedgirl77 May 2014 #17
She just blew on it? snooper2 May 2014 #19
Honestly, woolldog May 2014 #12
Your spin is maddening. Marshall III May 2014 #13
She was the step daughter of a major Democratic donor karynnj May 2014 #15
Ken Starr wouldn't have had to kidnap her if she were a paid agent. n/t Orsino May 2014 #16
Men cannot BE tempted. They sometimes ARE tempted but that's on them. randome May 2014 #18
Even by a "temptress"? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #20
A 'temptress' isn't responsible for someone's reaction. randome May 2014 #24
That's a... novel interpretation of the word. Orrex May 2014 #22
'Be' implies something being done TO you. In this context. I think. randome May 2014 #23
Maybe, but... Orrex May 2014 #31
And, poor, helpless, Bill wasn't strong enough to resist evil temptation by the Devil Girl. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #21
I'm a fan of Bill, but even I don't think anyone had to be paid joeybee12 May 2014 #25
signed sealed and delivered SummerSnow May 2014 #26
Huge Clinton fan here... NCTraveler May 2014 #27
No, I am certain that this was the only time he ever, ever strayed from his marriage vows. Nye Bevan May 2014 #29
I'll always believe that madokie May 2014 #28
I don't believe some of the shit I'm seeing. moriah May 2014 #30
You think she was a hooker? Riftaxe May 2014 #32
So She's A Prostitute otohara May 2014 #33
Not then, but now? I'd bet on it. WinkyDink May 2014 #34

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
2. She'll grift as much as she can & rapidly fade into the relevant news dust bin.
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:31 AM
May 2014

She's already becoming old news after only 1 day.
Well, except for Joe Scar.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
4. It all seemed just the way things happen to me.
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:34 AM
May 2014

Conspiracies are pretty difficult to keep hidden over time; people talk.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
8. I don't think so. Regardless, he was the master of his own demise politically.
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:39 AM
May 2014

He should have known better and controlled himself, regardless of Lewinski's intentions.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
9. It is well-known that her family are big Dem supporters
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:39 AM
May 2014

which is how she got her WH internship in the first place. Also, her father is (or was?) a Beverly Hills doctor. Money didn't mean that much to her because she had always had plenty of it.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
10. Who gives a shit that she gave a blowjob to Clinton?
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:42 AM
May 2014

Shit, I thought this was complete bullshit when it happened the first time & I was about 15 or 16. My dad & I used to get into arguments because he would badger my grandmother over what a terrible president she voted for over a damn blowjob.

Get over it & stop implying that she's a whore for doing it. Opportunistic maybe, whore unacceptable.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
12. Honestly,
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:44 AM
May 2014

If you were going to pay someone to seduce a President would you pick her? No. You would've picked someone a lot better looking.

 

Marshall III

(69 posts)
13. Your spin is maddening.
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:45 AM
May 2014

President Clinton behaved like a pig. Despite being president "in the people's house", he was married, her boss, and twice her age. He humiliated himself, her, his family, his supporters and this country.

Any time a relationship takes place between a boss and subservient, the boss is absolutely wrong- every time!!!!!

Not to say that Monica is or was faultless, but Clinton could have and should have avoided the affair.

All that said, her "kiss and tell" attempt to jump in to the limelight is ugly and wrong, but expected and the price of doing this sort of business.

Best to take the lumps and let it pass, but there is no conspiracy theory or rationalization that makes any of it any better.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
15. She was the step daughter of a major Democratic donor
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:48 AM
May 2014

I seriously doubt that anyone paid her to do anything. My own take was why did she (or anyone) think that doing something like flashing the President would not lead to being quickly and quietly shown the door for inappropriate behavior.

This is a case where no one other than Bill Clinton is responsible for the harm to his reputation and the hurt to his family and the Democratic party.

As to someone on the right paying Monica now - I doubt it. She is just continuing to seek attention and likely hopes to get money or a position out of this. To this point, Monica destroyed her own life through her actions. As a 19 year old, her likely future was that she would marry and live the life of privilege she was born to. It is sad that at 40, she is still trying to make something of her own (as well as the President's) poor taste. This is like a faded groupie still trying to trade on the biggest moment of her life.

I suspect that if it were the right, they would wait until maybe June 2016 - maybe sending her out for a book tour that summer before the Democratic convention. Imagine the lead up to the convention being filled with discussions that seemed like they were right out of 1998 when Bill Clinton confessed. (or August 2000 the weekend before a Democratic convention when there was a major TV confessional by the president or hearing in many interviews in June 2004 that Monica happened "because I could". ) Having it all come out again now, means it likely will not come out then.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. Men cannot BE tempted. They sometimes ARE tempted but that's on them.
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:23 AM
May 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
24. A 'temptress' isn't responsible for someone's reaction.
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:46 AM
May 2014

The person without self-control is responsible. (Can't believe I entered a Monica Lewinsky thread. What was I thinking?)
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. 'Be' implies something being done TO you. In this context. I think.
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:44 AM
May 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
[/center][/font][hr]

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
31. Maybe, but...
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:18 PM
May 2014

It depends whether we're treating "tempted" as a verb or an adjective, and it depends also on who is assumed to have agency in the transaction.

Sort of like:
Randome was offended by Orrex's ribald limericks

versus

Orrex's ribald limericks offended randome.

Who's at the reins?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
27. Huge Clinton fan here...
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:13 PM
May 2014

and even I am not blind enough to think she was paid or promised anything beforehand. She was living her dream. We are talking the Big Dog. No temptation needed. If it wasn't Monica, it would have been someone else. May have been.

Edit to add: Where do you get your info from. Assumptions can be drawn from what happened. Your assumptions seem to be based off something that is unknown. Many make assumptions based off of known details. Your assumption seems to be in conflict with the actual events.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
29. No, I am certain that this was the only time he ever, ever strayed from his marriage vows.
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:17 PM
May 2014

Yes siree.

OK, sarcasm aside, yes, both JFK and he were serial adulterers. But really, who cares? They were both good presidents and I would infinitely prefer to have either of these men as president than someone like W who (AFAIK) never strayed from the marital bed.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
28. I'll always believe that
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:16 PM
May 2014

the pukes were on a witch hunt and all they were getting for their troubles was a big ass bill so they had to do something for show.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
30. I don't believe some of the shit I'm seeing.
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:18 PM
May 2014

No one is willing to put responsibility where it belongs -- on both their shoulders, equally.

Now she's got to either be an innocent victim or not just a "slut" but a whore as well? Because that's what you're saying, that she was paid for sex. Along with suggesting that a man can't think beyond his penis, but I'm sure others will mention that.

She's not a slut, whore, temptress, child, or victim of anything except possibly the media. She was a grown woman who was fully capable of making her own decisions, and happened to make a bad one that's haunted her the rest of her life. And that bad decision was NOT to give a man a blowjob -- it was to give a *married* man a blowjob.

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