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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:50 PM May 2014

Clinton: Even Killing Goldman Sachs CEO Wouldn't Satisfy 'Blood Lust'

Bill Clinton told former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner that nothing would appease the populist "blood lust" for bankers -- not even slitting the throat of Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein in a dark alley.

That's according to a lengthy new article by Andrew Ross Sorkin published online Thursday for the New York Times magazine, which includes interviews with Geithner.

Here's the relevant excerpt about the former president from Sorkin's piece:

[Geithner] cheerfully relayed a story that also appears in his book about the time he sought advice from Bill Clinton on how to pursue a more populist strategy: “You could take Lloyd Blankfein into a dark alley,” Clinton said, “and slit his throat, and it would satisfy them for about two days. Then the blood lust would rise again.”


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Clinton: Even Killing Goldman Sachs CEO Wouldn't Satisfy 'Blood Lust' (Original Post) Capt. Obvious May 2014 OP
My, that was helpful of him. Skidmore May 2014 #1
Clinton is right. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #2
You took the words right out of my mouth Aerows May 2014 #86
Wow. Hit parade! Jackpine Radical May 2014 #109
Isn't it worth a try? Demo_Chris May 2014 #3
Sort of a straw man hyperbolic distraction. How about just prosecuting the white collar criminals? nt GoneFishin May 2014 #4
I'll repeat that. AlbertCat May 2014 #55
Yep Aerows May 2014 #87
Make them work for minimum wage after taking all their money. SammyWinstonJack May 2014 #107
this, exactly ^^^^ magical thyme May 2014 #65
I couldn't care less if the parasites live or die, but I bet the people he and his ilk robbed redqueen May 2014 #5
Exactly. We don't want his blood: we want our money back dickthegrouch May 2014 #76
Third Way types think they are criticizing extremism... Bjorn Against May 2014 #6
+1. They also don't realize that they've defined it as a Them vs. Us situation, where winter is coming May 2014 #36
+1 RedCappedBandit May 2014 #111
We know which side the Clintons are on, they don't even try to hide it LittleBlue May 2014 #7
Her attitude was clear while Bill was still governor. ChairmanAgnostic May 2014 #9
Interesting Art_from_Ark May 2014 #92
You said that right, that money is an investment from the super rich. Whisp May 2014 #44
Yes LittleBlue May 2014 #51
"A vote for Hillary is a betrayal of every member of the 99% " FiveGoodMen May 2014 #50
It would be better to give them 20 years in a Supermax and strip them of every penny in assets hobbit709 May 2014 #8
"Strip them of their assets",I agree, but I would sentence them to work at a fast-food for min wage. rhett o rick May 2014 #28
AFTER the 20 years in a Supermax. hobbit709 May 2014 #29
And if minimum wage wasn't enough... KansDem May 2014 #62
Too much taxpayer money would be spent to keep them Bohunk68 May 2014 #101
What's the difference between Justice and Bloodlust? el_bryanto May 2014 #10
BS wryter2000 May 2014 #11
put 'em in jail, seize their assets and repay those they stole from rurallib May 2014 #63
Of course it wouldn't satisfy the "blood lust" because there justiceischeap May 2014 #12
Why am I reminded of the ten lawyers on the bottom of the ocean? tularetom May 2014 #13
Who said anything about a dark alley? . . . Journeyman May 2014 #14
I'd be much more satisfied with letting him live... tk2kewl May 2014 #15
WTF? Arugula Latte May 2014 #16
It would be a start. n/t Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #17
Still trying to justify alsame May 2014 #18
Yeah, but maybe prison for them would go a long way Ilsa May 2014 #19
What an insult. Lloyd Blankfein is a man, the problem is the system that supports him. arcane1 May 2014 #20
Boo hoo. Poor oppressed bankers. chrisa May 2014 #21
Hey Bill ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #22
Bills correct Slit throats in an alley won't do Exposethefrauds May 2014 #23
Call me old fashioned.... AnneD May 2014 #42
That is saved for those who allowed them to get away with it in Congress Exposethefrauds May 2014 #78
I was thinking noon, strapped to that fucking bull. nt Jeff Murdoch May 2014 #100
Is this the same Goldman Sachs that paid Hillary $400,000 to talk to them? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #24
Rather an obscene amount for a couple of speeches flpoljunkie May 2014 #80
Nah! Politicians returning favors for money? Tsk. Tsk. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #88
I see it as flat out corruption. This wasnt a campaign contribution, the money increased Ms. rhett o rick May 2014 #105
Sometimes, holding people accountable for their bad policy making decisions Baitball Blogger May 2014 #25
hmm jollyreaper2112 May 2014 #26
Where can I cast my vote for you? Enthusiast May 2014 #95
my my, one troll fantasizes about killing people and it makes others (who probably boast about being dionysus May 2014 #98
The dumb is strong with you jollyreaper2112 May 2014 #103
i agree. i apologize for that post. dionysus May 2014 #110
my blood lust just went up a notch n/t Enrique May 2014 #27
Yeah.. sendero May 2014 #32
Why not just use the new way Oklahoma handles things. Lint Head May 2014 #30
Why is there bloodlust, why would there be such animosity toward the 1% Bill? Rex May 2014 #31
This Leith May 2014 #46
nothing ventured nothing gained. lets give a good try. piratefish08 May 2014 #33
It would be astart....... Guy Whitey Corngood May 2014 #34
That's dumb. moondust May 2014 #35
Blood lust? Surely not! Nye Bevan May 2014 #37
Stupid polls tend to get stupid results Bjorn Against May 2014 #41
Ever the tool whatchamacallit May 2014 #38
Well, I suppose we can trust them to do absolutely nothing about it then. Shandris May 2014 #39
Damn, mutherfocking right I wouldnt be satisfied with that mindwalker_i May 2014 #40
This is why I'm a Democrat. We have a party that is not afraid to stand up for the bankers!! Douglas Carpenter May 2014 #43
Can't wait to hear how Bill Clinton explains this sycophantic remark flpoljunkie May 2014 #45
Loved what Elizabeth Warren said about how Geither saw his role in her new book... flpoljunkie May 2014 #61
Bwah! I hadn't seen that. Nailed it, as usual. n/t winter is coming May 2014 #74
It's not bloodlust, it's anger. Iggo May 2014 #47
That was a terrible thing for Clinton to say, it is disgusting to pass off the valid outrage and Jefferson23 May 2014 #48
Yep, that sounds accurate. Impolitic, perhaps, but not wrong. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #49
I wonder whether Clinton has any family or friends who lost their business or their home thanks JDPriestly May 2014 #52
I think Bill's satisfied with the way things went down... raindaddy May 2014 #58
Au contraire! His son-in-law has his very own hedge fund & a$10.5 million "flat". Divernan May 2014 #89
What a pompous and idiotic thing to say. geardaddy May 2014 #53
That's a pretty trollish way for Bill to put it muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #54
what an asshole frylock May 2014 #56
What a stupid thing to say, Bill. Whisp May 2014 #57
No, NO! no blood intaglio May 2014 #59
So pleased to see a show of 100% unity - 2banon May 2014 #60
I am utterly sick of the "you can never make liberals happy" argument. Laelth May 2014 #64
Reading your comment about "you can never make liberals happy" gave me dejavu GoneFishin May 2014 #82
Or deja vu on every other thread in GD Capt. Obvious May 2014 #84
k&r for the responses to this OP. Laelth May 2014 #66
No, but it certainly would be a great start. hatrack May 2014 #67
"All people want is to play by the rules and have a fair shot." Boomerproud May 2014 #68
Lets not worry about onecaliberal May 2014 #69
I'm not saying Bill didn't say this, but remember, this is Geithner saying Bill said this... joeybee12 May 2014 #70
Am I the ONLY one that physically cringed at Clinton's statement? AAO May 2014 #71
No, you are not the only one. flpoljunkie May 2014 #77
I would not slit this throat DonCoquixote May 2014 #72
We know what side you Clinton's are on ...and it isn't our side! L0oniX May 2014 #73
What a Looni statement! Auntie Bush May 2014 #91
The Clintons chose sides many years ago. Ikonoklast May 2014 #75
Ah.... the battle royal talking point has been disclosed in order Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #79
let's try it and see 2pooped2pop May 2014 #81
"Just ignore them. They'll never be happy. Why even try?" GoneFishin May 2014 #83
It is NOT an issue of "blood lust"; but an issue of Justice that is paramount. laserhaas May 2014 #85
laserhaas, I share your view. President Clinton has confused a desire for ms.smiler May 2014 #93
Should be found in our courts laserhaas May 2014 #102
ahem RainDog May 2014 #90
We can't afford Hillary and an attitude like this. grahamhgreen May 2014 #94
This is all part of the depress the vote effort. Enthusiast May 2014 #96
How about just breaking up the banks and putting the fraudsters in jail? eridani May 2014 #97
Re: THANKS! Wealthy5015 May 2014 #99
Change the policies Bill or Guillotines are in our future. mmonk May 2014 #104
Ah, Bill. Always willing to offer the Third-Way perspective on the issues. marmar May 2014 #106
Of course it would only satisfy for a couple days, Bill. Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #108
Disgusting. myrna minx May 2014 #112

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. Clinton is right.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:55 PM
May 2014

But if I weren't afraid of having my sardonicism taken too seriously, I'd point out that it would be a good start.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
86. You took the words right out of my mouth
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:58 PM
May 2014

and no, I wouldn't say that either because I'm afraid I would get taken too seriously. Still, it wouldn't hurt to include Jamie Dimon in that particular hit parade.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
55. I'll repeat that.
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:55 PM
May 2014

Sort of a straw man hyperbolic distraction. How about just prosecuting the white collar criminals?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
87. Yep
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:59 PM
May 2014

Put their asses in jail and take all of their money. That would be a fate worse than death for most of them.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
65. this, exactly ^^^^
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:38 PM
May 2014

thank you for sparing me the effort to wrap words around it. All I could come up with was "hyperbole much?"

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. I couldn't care less if the parasites live or die, but I bet the people he and his ilk robbed
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:58 PM
May 2014

would like their money back.

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
76. Exactly. We don't want his blood: we want our money back
Thu May 8, 2014, 06:20 PM
May 2014

If my 401K portfolio gets to where it should have been by now absent the 2007 downturn before I retire, I shall be happy. If not, look out banksters and GOPers, since I happen to think you are personally responsible for my economic distress.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
6. Third Way types think they are criticizing extremism...
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:00 PM
May 2014

They don't realize that when they accuse people of "blood lust" based on a difference of opinion they are the ones who sound like extremists.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
36. +1. They also don't realize that they've defined it as a Them vs. Us situation, where
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

they've identified themselves as Them. Voters turn out enthusiastically for Us.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
7. We know which side the Clintons are on, they don't even try to hide it
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:00 PM
May 2014

A vote for Hillary is a betrayal of every member of the 99%

She will feed you scraps on social issues while working to make the 1% even wealthier. Don't fool yourselves, $200k a speech isn't a gift, it's an investment.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
9. Her attitude was clear while Bill was still governor.
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:04 PM
May 2014

I had the misfortune of running into her posse and her majesty at an ABA convention. Let's just say that she made no friends there.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
92. Interesting
Thu May 8, 2014, 11:23 PM
May 2014

She apparently also made few friends among teachers in Arkansas while she was First Lady of the state. I had a history teacher who was a dyed-in-the-wool "Big D" Democrat who told me that he and lots of other Arkansas teachers were really irritated about her educational "reforms".

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
44. You said that right, that money is an investment from the super rich.
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:38 PM
May 2014

But they think we are all so stupid as not to see that it is Bribery, is what it is.
Rewards for past deeds like wall street favours that has served the upper crust so well and pocket money for future favours of the same.

Disgusting, and they do it out in broad daylight while their fans coo about how wonderfully liberal and caring they are - a lifetime of service to the people.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
51. Yes
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:48 PM
May 2014

Speaking fees and board memberships are just a more sophisticated form of bribery. Plenty are fooled because it doesn't come in the form of a brown envelope stuffed with cash.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. "Strip them of their assets",I agree, but I would sentence them to work at a fast-food for min wage.
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:03 PM
May 2014

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
101. Too much taxpayer money would be spent to keep them
Fri May 9, 2014, 07:02 AM
May 2014

in lockup. Yup, strip them of their assets, all of them. Wife and kids can go on SNAP. I kind of favor that invention by our friends, the French, in 1792. As the Queen said, "Off with their heads." Take care of a bit of that ole "blood lust".

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
11. BS
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:07 PM
May 2014

Put a few of them in jail, but most important, change the rules so they can't steal from our citizens again.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
63. put 'em in jail, seize their assets and repay those they stole from
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:21 PM
May 2014

that would be a start.
That would be something called "justice"

I am not a believer so I don't expect there will be justice in another life. They stole it here, they get justice here.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. Of course it wouldn't satisfy the "blood lust" because there
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:07 PM
May 2014

are too many responsible for this mess to only use two as an example--not that I'm advocating violence against bankers but come on, two is just a tiny drop in the bucket.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
15. I'd be much more satisfied with letting him live...
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:09 PM
May 2014

And making sure he, his company and his clients are taxed fairly and face criminal charges for their ripoff schemes.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
16. WTF?
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:10 PM
May 2014

Bankers have gone unpunished for torpedoing our economy and he's protesting "blood lust"?

STFU, Bill. Gawd, I'm so sick of him.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
19. Yeah, but maybe prison for them would go a long way
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:14 PM
May 2014

Towards stopping their thievery. Especially with heavy fines so that it isn't worth it to sit in jail for ten years.

The bloodlust is irrelevant. Fixing a broken, cheating system is relevant, Mr. President.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
20. What an insult. Lloyd Blankfein is a man, the problem is the system that supports him.
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:14 PM
May 2014

With friends like these...

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
23. Bills correct Slit throats in an alley won't do
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:19 PM
May 2014

Hanging them by their entrails from their towers of corruption along Wall Street would be much more satisfying!

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
78. That is saved for those who allowed them to get away with it in Congress
Thu May 8, 2014, 06:52 PM
May 2014

The final result rolling and bouncing down the Capitol Steps to the roar and cheer of the crowd would be very satisfying.

PPV of course we have to still pay off the debt created by them.

Now just need to think of something very special for the Koch Brothers.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
24. Is this the same Goldman Sachs that paid Hillary $400,000 to talk to them?
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:19 PM
May 2014

Perish the thought that there could be a correlation between the payoffs and Bills observations.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
80. Rather an obscene amount for a couple of speeches
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:14 PM
May 2014

You don't suppose Goldman Sachs sees this as an investment in a possible Clinton term. It's arguably a sign of the corruption in our current political system.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
88. Nah! Politicians returning favors for money? Tsk. Tsk.
Thu May 8, 2014, 09:03 PM
May 2014

I'm sure it was merely an act of pure generosity and public spirit. The kind capitalists have built they're reputations on. No strings attached...no expectations...no obligations.

Now, let me tell you about that bridge in Brooklyn....

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
105. I see it as flat out corruption. This wasnt a campaign contribution, the money increased Ms.
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:20 AM
May 2014

Clinton's personal wealth. We dont even know that she actually gave them two speeches. And why two? Couldnt she get all of her advice into one? She is flaunting her ties to Wall Street. Elect Clinton-Sachs for 8 more years of Wall Street looting the lower classes.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
25. Sometimes, holding people accountable for their bad policy making decisions
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:20 PM
May 2014

is much harder than triangulation. I would respect the Democratic leaders' penchant for compromise if they all didn't seem so richly rewarded for looking the other way.

I'm sure that's just my perception.

And while I'm here, may I add, Edwards for President!

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
26. hmm
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:20 PM
May 2014

Clinton: Even Killing Goldman Sachs CEO Wouldn't Satisfy 'Blood Lust'

No, but it's a start. I have a few ideas in mind.

1. All attempts to bribe politicians or influence-peddle are capital crimes and those convicted will face public execution.
2. Make Wall Street an actual wall, hollow out niches in the wall. Those convicted of financial crimes face immurement, being walled up inside Amontillado-style.
3. Public servants are to have nice pensions and want for nothing but are otherwise forbidden from accepting gifts, making investments or engaging in significant business activity.
4. The door between private and public sector should be one-way, not revolving. You can work in industry and later enter public service but no more of this shit with generals leaving the service to become lobbyists.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
98. my my, one troll fantasizes about killing people and it makes others (who probably boast about being
Fri May 9, 2014, 02:53 AM
May 2014

anti death penalty) chip in with their own execution fantasies....


jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
103. The dumb is strong with you
Fri May 9, 2014, 07:44 AM
May 2014

I am not trolling.

If I actually had a chance of making these laws real I would make the death penalty a life sentence. Walling someone up doesn't mean death, not if you keep feeding them. But it serves as a sharp lesson to others.

Just because you disagree with me doesn't make me a troll. That's a childish mentality.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
31. Why is there bloodlust, why would there be such animosity toward the 1% Bill?
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:17 PM
May 2014

Why would we want to murder someone, what was so horrible that the 1% deserve to have their throat slit? Can the ex-POTUS answer that or does he just feel good, because he's defending his wifes meal ticket?

That's pathetic, Bill Clinton making cheesy statements to deflect from the real problem OR even addressing the real problem. I am always disappointed when someone I expect to act like an adult, instead plays CYA for the 1% who (last time I checked) are rich beyond belief from criminal behavior.

I don't want someone murdered in a dark alley, I want them to face criminal charges and a court date. I guess that is too much to expect in America now that a plutocracy is in charge and running things.

Fucking SIGH.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
46. This
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:42 PM
May 2014

In calm moments, nobody is calling for blood. What we the 99% want is justice.

A young woman is looking at 7 years in prison for defending herself against sexual mauling. That is not justice.

OWS got beaten and pepper sprayed for hanging around too long. That is not justice.

How many of the robber barons are looking at any kind of retribution for destroying the middle class or their thievery? Just a couple. How many regular hard-working Americans have lost their homes, livelihood, and dreams to said robber barons? Millions.

Let's start looking at regulating Wall Street and the whole financial schemes they have come up with. Then Holder must let the pot smokers alone and go after the big criminals - and get convictions. Enough is enough.

If WJC doesn't get how to start, he should listen to Elizabeth Warren. Using language like "bloodlust" is just inflammatory and ignores the issue.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
35. That's dumb.
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

So Bill doesn't understand that it's the SYSTEM that needs fixing? You could get rid of any number of oligarchs but as long as the system is broken there will be thousands of would-be oligarchs waiting in line to take their place.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
41. Stupid polls tend to get stupid results
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:32 PM
May 2014

When you don't pose a serious question you can't expect serious responses.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
39. Well, I suppose we can trust them to do absolutely nothing about it then.
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:30 PM
May 2014

We wouldn't want to fuel any more 'blood lust', after all.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
40. Damn, mutherfocking right I wouldnt be satisfied with that
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:32 PM
May 2014

It wouldn't do any good. Even if one CEO dude was killed, there are many more to take his place. Even if all CEO or banker people were killed, more people would rise up to take their place - fill the vacuum that was left behind.

What I want to see are laws and tax codes that stop people with this addiction to hoarding everything from getting too powerful. I want laws and tax codes that reward people WHO DO FUCKING WORK as opposed to laws that suck the dicks (Kochs) of people who HAVE money.

This is the kind of shit that makes me really not like the idea of Hillary being president. Yeah, she'd be better than Romney, but a sewage dump would be better than Romney.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
61. Loved what Elizabeth Warren said about how Geither saw his role in her new book...
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:15 PM
May 2014
Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts senator and creator of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, has written in her new book, “A Fighting Chance,” that Geithner “believed the government’s most important job was to provide a soft landing for the tender fannies of the banks.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/11/magazine/what-timothy-geithner-really-thinks.html

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
48. That was a terrible thing for Clinton to say, it is disgusting to pass off the valid outrage and
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:43 PM
May 2014

as if Geithner was ever going to do the right thing..which was what Americans wanted.



Why Does the Media Ignore Timothy Geithner’s Disastrous Leadership of the NY Fed?
Posted on November 18, 2013 by Devin Smith

By William K. Black
(Cross posted at Benzinga.com)

Remember nine months ago when Timothy Geithner assured us that it was “extremely unlikely” he would take a position on Wall Street?

The media meme when Geithner announced that he was stepping down as Treasury Secretary and taking a position as a “senior fellow” with the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) was what a superior human he was for not taking a job with Wall Street. The “extremely unlikely” (to no one’s surprise) was announced nine months later. The private equity firm Warburg Pincus has hired Geithner as its President.

“The unusually low-key announcement — made with little fanfare on a Saturday morning — is Mr. Geithner’s first foray into the private sector in 25 years, after serving in the Treasury Department, the International Monetary Fund and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.”

The IMF and the NY Fed are far more private than public and they both exist primarily to serve banks. They NY Fed is owned by the private banks it supposedly examines and supervises and the banks elect bankers to act as the NY Fed’s directors (including until very recently the supposed “public interest” directors). They are not subject to U.S. government caps on pay, and in the case of the IMF the employees have their pay increased to compensate for the U.S. taxes they are supposed to pay (which Geithner did not pay for many years). Geithner’s disastrous “public service” at the NY Fed and the IMF made him a multi-millionaire at great cost to the public.

The NYT is typical in acting as if Geithner first held a leadership position in 2008 (he was made head of the NY Fed in 2003).

“As president of the New York Fed in 2008, Mr. Geithner helped lead the federal government’s response to the financial crisis, including the sale of Bear Stearns and the bailout of the American International Group.”

The NY Fed, of course, was supposed to be the leading examiner and supervisor of many of the Nation’s largest banks and bank holding companies. Geithner was the top regional supervisor during the key years of the three epidemics of control fraud that drove the financial crisis and the NY Fed drew special criticism for its total failure as a supervisor during the crisis. Naturally, President Obama responded to his failures by promoting him. The NYT whitewashes Geithner’s role as the Fed’s top regional supervisor out of history. The fact that Geithner used AIG to secretly bail out some of the world’s largest banks (at the direct expense of the U.S. government) also disappears from the paper’s account.

Geithner’s new employer, however, seeks to outdo the NYT by preventing any account of what it cost to change Geithner’s “extremely unlikely” into “where do I sign” from ever becoming public. Neither the firm nor Geithner want the public to learn how lucratively the bankers reward the anti-regulators.

“His new employer, Warburg Pincus, is a 47-year-old private equity firm that oversees $35 billion in assets. [T]he firm has remained privately held and has kept a low profile.”

Because Warburg Pincus (WP) is privately held we may never know Geithner’s compensation. Even the NYT concedes that Geithner is an example of how Wall Street ensures that the revolving door makes wealthy its supporters in high government positions once they resign and that Geithner proves that this has nothing to do with the former official’s merits or fitness for the private sector position.

“Since leaving the Treasury, Mr. Geithner has joined the Council on Foreign Relations as a fellow and has taken paid speaking engagements.

Mr. Geithner follows in the path of past Treasury secretaries who, after leaving government, have accepted lucrative Wall Street posts. After leaving the Clinton administration, Robert E. Rubin joined Citigroup. And John W. Snow, a Treasury secretary in the George W. Bush administration, joined the private equity firm Cerberus.

While Mr. Geithner has been given the lofty title of president, several private equity executives questioned whether he would be much more than a prominent name who would help Warburg Pincus open doors on the fund-raising side, especially with foreign investors like sovereign wealth funds.

Unlike past Treasury Secretaries Henry M. Paulson Jr. and Mr. Rubin (both alumni of Goldman Sachs), Mr. Geithner has been a public servant for most of his career. He has never worked at a bank, and he has no experience making private equity deals.”

Geithner is not a financial expert, but that was no bar to making him the head of the NY Fed or Treasury. The bankers and their political allies put the Geithners of the world in positions of increasing power not despite their weaknesses and failures but because of their willingness to aid the bankers even when doing so will betray their office. Geithner “has been a public servant” as long as one recalls that in this world this means being made a millionaire to lead a mostly private bank (the NY Fed), owned and run by and for the big banks, into its worst supervisory failures in its history at the (massive) expense of the public – which the bankers and the NYT term as being a “servant” of the “public.” Ryan Grim has a nice piece emphasizing that Geithner, as Treasury Secretary, issued the insipid regulation that was weakened to the point that it would please the private equity industry.

Geithner was a Republican who switched to an independent as a fig leaf to ease Obama’s appointment of him as Treasury Secretary, but firms like Warburg Pincus care little about party. They largely backed Obama in 2008 and largely backed Mitt Romney in 2012. What they want from Geithner, as even the NYT admits, is someone who excites wealthy foreign investors about the prospect of using his political connections on their behalf.

remainder: http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2013/11/media-ignore-timothy-geithners-disastrous-leadership-ny-fed.html

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
49. Yep, that sounds accurate. Impolitic, perhaps, but not wrong.
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:44 PM
May 2014

Far too many people don't get that the last recession was the fault of politicians, not of bankers.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
52. I wonder whether Clinton has any family or friends who lost their business or their home thanks
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:50 PM
May 2014

to the last banker orgy. And not all bankers are responsible for the terrible damage that so many American families suffered in the last crash. We still have conscientious responsible bankers. But in the contest to see who can eat the most middle class families' homes, they are easily beaten by some of the biggies.

The 2008 crisis was foreseeable and avoidable. When housing prices rise drastically and wages stay stagnant, a housing crash, a foreclosure crisis is inevitable. Water flows downhill. It's as obvious as that.

Clinton should apologize for having signed away Glass-Steagall. He should take some of the responsibility. And GWBush should take a lot of the responsibility too.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
58. I think Bill's satisfied with the way things went down...
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:01 PM
May 2014

Great point. Bill and Hillary's total worth increased while the middle class was being fleeced! Pretty much tells us a justice system that ignores Wall Street crime works for him.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
89. Au contraire! His son-in-law has his very own hedge fund & a$10.5 million "flat".
Thu May 8, 2014, 09:05 PM
May 2014

Wall Street has been very, very good to all the Clintons.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
53. What a pompous and idiotic thing to say.
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:54 PM
May 2014

Just try them and put them in jail and put the law back to the way it was before you changed it Bill.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,308 posts)
54. That's a pretty trollish way for Bill to put it
Thu May 8, 2014, 04:54 PM
May 2014

To characterise desire for bankers to be held to account - which could mean confiscating illegally obtained wealth, shutting down criminal enterprises, or jailing the bankers for specific crimes - as 'blood lust' is a damn stupid thing for Bill Clinton to say. If a newbie said it here, we'd call them a troll.

Hopefully Hillary is not so stupid about it.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
59. No, NO! no blood
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:02 PM
May 2014

Just the pound of flesh nearest his heart (or whatever the equivalent organ in a banker is), unlike Elizabethans we now have the technology to do this!

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
60. So pleased to see a show of 100% unity -
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:11 PM
May 2014

telling Bill essentially to bugger off. Now, suppose we take this show of unity to the next level, gather our communiques' and send them to the presses, tweet, twitter, tumble and face book and whatever other social media and make it go viral... mass mailings via Snail mail to the Clinton Library, to their offices etc..

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
64. I am utterly sick of the "you can never make liberals happy" argument.
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:26 PM
May 2014

I am not sure it was useful for President Clinton to repeat it. It certainly doesn't give me warm fuzzies for the political party that allegedly protects my interests, nor is it wise to bash the base. Nor is it even true. Just try us. Give us ten years ... just ten years ... of consistently liberal government policy and watch how happy we will be.

Sigh.

-Laelth

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
82. Reading your comment about "you can never make liberals happy" gave me dejavu
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:23 PM
May 2014

for the right wing "liberal press" meme that they used to push the networks to the right by relentlessly falsely accusing them of being too liberal.

Looks like a somewhat similar tactic.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
68. "All people want is to play by the rules and have a fair shot."
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:46 PM
May 2014

How many times have I heard Bill Clinton say that? I always thought empathy was an inherent part of his character-but I was dead wrong. As a liberal, and someone who seeks true justice, I will NEVER have his back again.

onecaliberal

(32,829 posts)
69. Lets not worry about
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:53 PM
May 2014

all the people who lost their homes and all they had worked for their entire lives because of those bankers. Just goes to show how out of touch the corporatists really are with Main Street. WTF does he expect. Was Clinton not paying attention to what's been going on since the crash in 2008. More who gives a fig about the little people. Let them eat cake.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
70. I'm not saying Bill didn't say this, but remember, this is Geithner saying Bill said this...
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:55 PM
May 2014

Take that into consideration, knowing how decent and honrable Timmeh is.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
71. Am I the ONLY one that physically cringed at Clinton's statement?
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:56 PM
May 2014

He could have used a better analogy. JMO

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
91. What a Looni statement!
Thu May 8, 2014, 11:02 PM
May 2014

Well if they aren't Democrats...then you must think they are Republicans or Teabaggers? Which is it? There is no other viable party.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
75. The Clintons chose sides many years ago.
Thu May 8, 2014, 06:08 PM
May 2014

And it isn't the side that favors the rest of us rabble suffering from blood lust.


Clinton lost me years ago.

I do not want to take a step backwards.

Their friends are no friends of mine.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
79. Ah.... the battle royal talking point has been disclosed in order
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:13 PM
May 2014

to marginalize it, that degrades it ,that segregates it because they are the good guys that know what is best for us, the blood thirsty masses.

This is very revealing when you read between the lines of the message and the lies of the message to kept the masses in control of the royalty.....

You serfs never had it so good.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
81. let's try it and see
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:54 PM
May 2014

I'm thinking it will help. Maybe he should just go to the top floor of the bank building and get pushed....I mean jump. On second thought, I am liking that slit throat thing much better.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
85. It is NOT an issue of "blood lust"; but an issue of Justice that is paramount.
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:53 PM
May 2014

No one wants anyone dead, hung or otherwise; but we all desire a better sense of justice. There's nothing noble about justice in America today. If you have much money and/or power - you ARE - above the law.

And that's what sucks!

In our cases of eToys, Petters Ponzi, Dreier etc.,;
Goldman Sachs & Bain Capital break the law - openly!

And that ain't right!

ms.smiler

(551 posts)
93. laserhaas, I share your view. President Clinton has confused a desire for
Fri May 9, 2014, 12:52 AM
May 2014

accountability and justice with “bloodlust.” President Clinton is correct in that “bloodlust” would rise again even if Blankfein were found in a dark alley with a slit throat because it would do NOTHING to restore the wealth that has been stolen from the American people.

When defrauded investors, homeowners, students, credit card holders, municipalities, cities, states, pension funds, etc. have been properly compensated and made whole and when those responsible parties are thoroughly investigated, arrested and sent to trial and if found guilty, appropriately sentenced to prison, then justice and accountability will be served and we’ll realize a cessation of this so called “bloodlust.”

The very same thing offends me because as an American, regardless of money, influence or power, there is no one in this country with a crown upon their head; we are ALL subject to the law.

While the notion of Jamie Dimon hanging upside down from a tree might be pleasing to me, I’m in court fighting for accountability for the fraud in my mortgage and the damage done to my property Title. Justice isn’t found in a dark alley or under a tree but it can be found in our courts.

I didn’t pick up a knife or a rope - I picked up my pen to sign a lawsuit because I don’t want blood, I want justice.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
102. Should be found in our courts
Fri May 9, 2014, 07:06 AM
May 2014

I agree.

The reason we have tge code n rule of law is for the sake of justice civil.

It is when justice is arbitrary n capricious

Then civil battles are frustrated to the point

Of physical mayhem

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
90. ahem
Thu May 8, 2014, 10:52 PM
May 2014

look at my sig line.

I try not to have contempt for Bill Clinton. I really do. But he makes this so difficult - and eventually I wonder if he's worth the bother.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
96. This is all part of the depress the vote effort.
Fri May 9, 2014, 02:36 AM
May 2014

That last thing these blue dogs want is a Democratic majority.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
97. How about just breaking up the banks and putting the fraudsters in jail?
Fri May 9, 2014, 02:47 AM
May 2014

Killing them isn't really necessary.

 

Wealthy5015

(1 post)
99. Re: THANKS!
Fri May 9, 2014, 02:59 AM
May 2014

You telling this,,,Bill Clinton told former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner that nothing would appease the populist "blood lust" for bankers -- not even slitting the throat of Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein in a dark alley.
thanks for replay.

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Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
108. Of course it would only satisfy for a couple days, Bill.
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:29 AM
May 2014

Because there would be so very many more Wall Street CEO throats left unslit... Oh, was that my outside voice? Oops...







Yes, I'm joking.







Mostly.

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