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From The Independent, from yesterday:
Israel has been trying to steal secrets from the US, its principal protector and benefactor, but also occasional rival, ever since the inception of the Jewish state in 1948, and even before. But according to the latest issue of Newsweek, quoting Obama administration officials, these activities have crossed red lines rarely encountered in the past.
In the words of one Congressional aide, with access to classified briefings in January on the subject, Israels behaviour was very sobering ?alarming ?even terrifying. Israel, it would appear, is after everything it can lay its hands on: not just diplomatic and policy documents, but industrial and military technology. The means include Israeli trade missions to the US, joint ventures between Israeli and American companies and, presumably, spying by Israeli intelligence agencies.
Everyone does it, is a common reaction to such claims of ungentlemanly conduct. But by these accounts, in the case of America no one does it like Israel not even allies with intelligence services as skilled as those of France, Germany, even the UK.
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From Haaretz, from Tuesday:
Israeli espionage operations in the United States have "gone too far," senior U.S. intelligence officials have told Congress in recent weeks, Newsweek reported on Tuesday.
The intelligence assessments were given in confidential briefings to a number of congressional committees dealing with proposed legislation that would lower visa restrictions on Israeli citizens wishing to enter the U.S., according to the report.
Israel spies on the U.S. under the cover of trade missions or as part of joint defense technology agreements between the two countries, the intelligence officials reportedly told Congress. "Israel has crossed red lines," Newsweek reported the officials as saying.
American counter-intelligence officials told members of the House Judiciary and Foreign Affairs committees at the end of January that Israel's espionage activities in America are "unrivaled and unseemly," going far beyond the activities of other close allies, such as Germany, France, the U.K. and Japan.
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Many more articles being written about this revelation, covered in this week's Newsweek:
PB
Autumn
(45,046 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Newsweek: Israels Aggressive Spying in the U.S. Mostly Hushed Up:
According to a senior former U.S. intelligence operative, a Secret Service agent who was enjoying a moment of solitude in Gores bathroom before the Veep arrived heard a metallic scraping sound. The Secret Service had secured [Gores] room in advance and they all left except for one agent, who decided to take a long, slow time on the pot, the operative recalled for Newsweek. So the room was all quiet, he was just meditating on his toes, and he hears a noise in the vent. And he sees the vent clips being moved from the inside. And then he sees a guy starting to exit the vent into the room.
Did the agent scramble for his gun? No, the former operative said with a chuckle. He kind of coughed and the guy went back into the vents.
To some, the incident stands as an apt metaphor for the behind-closed-doors relations between Israel and America, frenemies even in the best of times. The brazen air-duct caper crossed the line of acceptable behavior between friendly intelligence services but because it was done by Israel, it was quickly hushed up by U.S. officials.
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Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Next time stay at the ambassadors residence.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)The Israeli government are NOT our allies...
Scuba
(53,475 posts)mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)It is incredible how any people do not know about it and since Alex Jones is the only one who does it gets easily dismissed.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)so that it is never forgotten.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...they always get removed.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)the Austin Powers calling Agent 86 "Licensed to Shag".
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)of dollars every year? I think we need to reevaluate our friendship.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)I think we need to reassess for sure. We have starving children in this country and we give Billions to other countries to kill other people instead. We certainly have our priorities confused.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)we ain't it.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)we do need to begin at home.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)It's been my experience and observation that it's usually your best friend that tries to fuck your wife or girl friend.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... is our Friend! Stop saying bad things about our Friend!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)But now I realize that Israel isn't exactly the worst non-American offender when it comes to spying; that honor probably goes to China more than anyone else(though Russia is likely a close second).
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Shocked, I tell ya!