We Grew Apart

[kpete]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/29/1079059/-We-Grew-Apart

[RKP5637]

1. Excellent chart!!! Tells it all in one chart!!! n/t

[madaboutharry]

2. And the top 1% conned half the country

Into supporting policies so that they too would benefit when they struck it rich.

[Jamaal510]

8. 1% strategy: Divide the 99%, and conquer.

Split the 99% vote and have them vote against their interests in order to maintain the status quo.

[indepat]

15. Therein lies the rub, that an overwhelming majority of those who vote Republican are

voting against their own interests, like lemming rushing out to sea, like they are both brain-dead and lacking a lick of sense.

[iemitsu]

38. lemmings don't jump into the sea.

disney made that up.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp
but you are right about the behavior of many/most republicans.
we must be careful of what and who we believe. disney is not a reliable source of scientific knowledge.

[PoliticAverse]

3. It would be nice if they had taken the top 1% out of the left chart for comparison. n/t

[tabatha]

4. Before Reagan versus after Reagan

or ... Democrat control to the left, mostly Republican control to the right.

[saras]

5. It doesn't tell it all - the neocons did this to all our values, not just our money.

That could be as well a graph of how much civil liberties we have. Or reproductive freedom. Or quality of child care. Or access to health care. Or...

just sayin'

[sabrina 1]

30. This is so true:

That could be as well a graph of how much civil liberties we have.

I wish someone would do a chart on the trickling away of our Civil Liberties.

[alittlelark]

6. Wow... that one sums it all up.

[jwirr]

7. Hurrah for Ayn Rand economics.

[lonestarnot]

9. Fucking Richie Rich and we're still letting them get away with this shit.

[progressoid]

10. And many third way Dems think this is all well and good.

And many of them are in the White House. And are often celebrated here.

[WCGreen]

11. Third way democrats are are conservatives who don't have the balls

to switch to being a republican....

[Dragonfli]

14. not entirely, some are Republicans writting gop legislation as Democrats

Think of it as a false flag operation. Gut some programs, cut some taxes, pass crappy free trade and since it is a false flag operation, the Democrats get the blame and ire of the public. Win win for the GOP.

[50000feet]

17. Hey, you've hit the bull's eye.

Since I don't post much, I would like to say you're one of my favorite sharp shooters on here.

[Dragonfli]

27. Really? I thought in all honesty I was considered a trouble maker.

I am not trying to be, I try to tell the truth without worrying if it pisses someone off, but sometimes that is exactly what happens.

Thanks for realizing I am not just trying to start shit.

[sabrina 1]

29. You're not a trouble-maker, although the truth can be trouble for the guilty and their defenders and

you're one of my favorite posters also.

[Dragonfli]

31. I practically idolize you, you are making me blush

[50000feet]

32. In that case I'm even gladder

that I said what I said. Since I've got excellent taste ((cough)), I'm certain that there's more of us out there. Somewhere in the wilderness of virtualdom, you've got a whole nest of secret admirers.

[Dragonfli]

33. You should post more, we need people that will post straight up what they see and know

via research and honest observations to be true, regardless of the implications towards party or personality cultism.

The party will only be strong if it values actual values over political expediency, cult of personality, or the desire to cower before conservatives.

There I go again, I know a dozen posters that will be pissed off at the way I put that.

For personal reasons, very bad stuff in my life right now, it really made me feel good that you posted what you did.

I needed that, thanks.

[50000feet]

39. Ooohhh...

I'm very touched by your reply. Rooting for you that this may be the beginning of a turn for the better.

[fascisthunter]

21. exactly

[chnoutte]

13. +1,000,000,000,000

[CaliforniaPeggy]

12. An outstanding graphic!

[yardwork]

16. The Reagan Revolution.

[zeemike]

18. It doesn't get any clearer than that

We were suckers....or just victims.
K&R

[Uncle Joe]

19. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[fascisthunter]

20. This is why the sociopathic right wing HATES taxes

how sick, stupid and crazy do you have to be to vote for these right wing freaks so they benefit while you grovel.

[zeemike]

22. sick, stupid and crazy

And afraid...very afraid.
And that is what it has all ben about...making people afraid.

[fascisthunter]

23. fucking Gollums with their hope of a Precious

[Bosso 63]

24. It takes a while for things to trickle down I tell ya!

Just one more tax cut, and ALL the boats are going to rise!




Side note, Did Lucy ever actually let Charley Brown kick the football?

[cyberpj]

25. So easy, concise, and easy to understand. We need a Ross Perot charts and graphs type of campaign

to make it easier for EVERYONE to see the truth.

Speeches and fine and uplifting and rah-rah-rah your own troops but PICTURES ARE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

The data is there. USE IT.

[varelse]

26. I wonder why this is so hard for people to 'get'

they can work as hard as they want, and virtually none of them will make progress in these conditions. Why can't they see this?

[Dragonfli]

28. Many are starting to get it, many more are still on the SOMA, OWS gets it ;-)

[varelse]

45. OWS is the process of people getting it

and that is why the beneficiaries of the status quo fight so hard to discredit the movement.

It is sad to see so many detractors here.

[bart95]

34. chart is false

real income for middle class and below has gone nowhere since 1973

[JBoy]

37. Do you have a source to back up your 0.0% change claim?

The OP presents CBO data in 2007 dollars (i.e., "real income&quot . What's your source?

[Elwood P Dowd]

40. Maybe he is factoring in that our government 30+ years ago totally changed the way

they calculate "real income". Increases in the costs of food and energy are no longer included in the CPI. Also, tons of substitution tricks were added to the formula. When you consider that, real income figures for the middle class and poor are totally skewed compared to the old days.

[Dragonfli]

41. That is a good point, is there any way to get a more valid comparison

of the real value of income from those years to compare to current income values?

[lunatica]

35. That graphic brings tears to my eyes

It wouldn't have ever hurt the 1% if we had all done well. They would have never had to alter their lives or dreams. They could have had all they ever wanted, yet it seems that what they wanted was to see others suffer.

But I really think they don't even care whether we suffer. It just not that personal to them.

How utterly needless our demise is. It probably never even crosses their consciousness.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

36. Coincides

with the election of Rapmaster Ronnie the ultimate bullshit artist.........

[Dragonfli]

42. Trickle down economics in action, when will both parties stop with the trickle down voodoo?

Hell even just the one, my Democratic party.

Isn't it time to stop all the "Reagan Democrat" love?
Blue dogs, you know who I am talking about

[Zax2me]

43. What happened 2008-present?

I'd like to see that chart.
See if things improved.

[Dragonfli]

44. I'd like to see it as well, from memory, I have seen figures that confirm the continuing trend

Memories are imperfect, I cant remember where I saw the figures in order to link to the data.

I only hope someone else comes up with it or I may have to spend a day obsessing over Google to find out for sure.