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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:34 PM May 2014

Harvard study shows neonicotionoids are devastating colonies by triggerring colony collapse disorder

Well folks, Harvard has the smoking gun. Neonicitinoids alter winterization behavior in apis melifera:


Honeybees abandoning hives and dying due to insecticide use, research finds

Harvard study shows neonicotionoids are devastating colonies by triggerring colony collapse disorder

The mysterious vanishing of honeybees from hives can be directly linked to insectcide use, according to new research from Harvard University. The scientists showed that exposure to two neonicotinoids, the world's most widely used class of insecticide, lead to half the colonies studied dying, while none of the untreated colonies saw their bees disappear.

"We demonstrated that neonicotinoids are highly likely to be responsible for triggering 'colony collapse disorder' in honeybee hives that were healthy prior to the arrival of winter," said Chensheng Lu, an expert on environmental exposure biology at Harvard School of Public Health and who led the work.

The loss of honeybees in many countries in the last decade has caused widespread concern because about three-quarters of the world's food crops require pollination. The decline has been linked to loss of habitat, disease and pesticide use. In December 2013, the European Union banned the use of three neonicotinoids for two years.

In the new Harvard study, published in the Bulletin of Insectology, the scientists studied the health of 18 bee colonies in three locations in central Massachusetts from October 2012 till April 2013. At each location, two colonies were treated with realistic doses of imidacloprid, two with clothianidin, and two were untreated control hives.

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More at The Guardian

The article links to the actual Harvard study. Bayer can no longer duck this. Neonicitinoids cause apis melifera to attempt nectar and pollen gathering during the middle of winter rather than the standard winterization behavior.

The smoking gun has been found. Bayer is the evil corporation killing off the honeybee.
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Harvard study shows neonicotionoids are devastating colonies by triggerring colony collapse disorder (Original Post) MohRokTah May 2014 OP
I can already hear the Republican talking points. drm604 May 2014 #1
kick bettyellen May 2014 #2
At first I read it as "exposure to neoconitoids..."! reformist2 May 2014 #3
You think YOU got it wrong? Cirque du So-What May 2014 #11
did you read the paper...? mike_c May 2014 #4
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #6
Thanks Shell, Bayer. DeSwiss May 2014 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #7
It's multiple issues. MohRokTah May 2014 #9
Good solid work. It won't be taken seriously by the big mouths though. n/t Avalux May 2014 #8
Still must be independently verified. MohRokTah May 2014 #10
That's absolutely right - they operate as a collective. Avalux May 2014 #21
The irony is that neonicotionoids are very poplular due to their low toxicity to humans and animals. DCBob May 2014 #12
The problem becomes the fact that the use of insecticides is a selective breeding program. MohRokTah May 2014 #13
Thats has always been and always will be an issue with any pesticide. DCBob May 2014 #14
Urban farming reduces the use of pesticides. MohRokTah May 2014 #15
Sure, but to replace a significant fraction of the food grown commercially would require.. DCBob May 2014 #17
Of course. MohRokTah May 2014 #19
I love honeybees, and watch for them, but have not seen a single honeybee Zorra May 2014 #16
I'd say larger picture targets monoculture agriculture. Our agriculture is so dysfunctional KittyWampus May 2014 #18
More Than Honey - on Netflix karadax May 2014 #20

drm604

(16,230 posts)
1. I can already hear the Republican talking points.
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:05 PM
May 2014

"Good for them! Thanks to these wonderful substances, they're now showing some initiative and working all winter rather than sleeping."

Or

"People should learn something about bees and their lifestyle. They're nothing but a lazy bunch of communists. I say good riddance!"

Cirque du So-What

(25,914 posts)
11. You think YOU got it wrong?
Sat May 10, 2014, 07:44 AM
May 2014

I read it as 'neocon-arrhoids' - an affliction I could definitely see anywhere around the world where the neocons would impose colonization.

mike_c

(36,279 posts)
4. did you read the paper...?
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:45 PM
May 2014

Notwithstanding your strong desire for this to be true, there are some problems that will hopefully be resolved further. First, Chensheng (Alex) Lu and his coauthors appear to be the only people to have gotten these results, and their 2012 paper making similar claims is not well regarded.

The present study, like the 2012 study, is published in a low impact, rather obscure Italian journal. Something as spectacular as the "smoking gun" explaining CCD would surely pass peer review in a more mainstream journal, don't you think? I have some questions about the experiment, as well. The sample size is small, yet apparently yielded highly significant results, suggesting a large effect size, something not seen in any previous tests of neonics on honeybee hives that I know of.

Further, the authors report their analysis was simple one-way ANOVA, but as I read their methods the study is at least a repeated measures design, and given the small sample size and differing outcome of results in the three apiaries, probably a blocked design as well. It also appears that they used ANOVA to compare the average number of frames containing bees from UNPOOLED "before" data (no significant difference) but pooled the data for ANOVA of the "after" counts of frames containing bees. This is the sort of sloppiness that often encourages publication in low impact journals.

Still, I expect the entomologists in the various CCD working groups at the USDA and at places like Penn State will be looking at this paper very critically during the coming weeks.

Response to mike_c (Reply #4)

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
5. Thanks Shell, Bayer.
Sat May 10, 2014, 01:06 AM
May 2014
- For your many, many contributions toward solving world over-population problems.

Neonicotinoids are a class of neuro-active insecticides chemically similar to nicotine. The development of this class of insecticides began with work in the 1980s by Shell and the 1990s by Bayer. link



''Better living through chemistry.....''

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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. It's multiple issues.
Sat May 10, 2014, 02:27 AM
May 2014

Varroa Destructor was never a factor in US apiaries of apis melifera until introduced in 1987.

This resulted in insecticides being used on insects to control the varroa mites. The problem is it also had an effect on multiple other mite species that live in a symbiotic relationship with apis melifera colonies, furthr weakening hives.

Then you have the introduction of tracheal mites, another pest unknown to apis melifera before accidental introduction. This required further treatments for control, furthr weakening colonies.

When you add up all of the various factors weakening the hives, the neonicitinoids become a final straw breaking the colony's back.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
10. Still must be independently verified.
Sat May 10, 2014, 03:03 AM
May 2014

But really, given all the stresses on bee colonies, it's really no surprise that non-lethal doses of neonicitinoids would also have further stresses on the colonies.

And cumulative stresses on a colony will always result in the death of the colony eventually.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
21. That's absolutely right - they operate as a collective.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:30 PM
May 2014

A stressor, no matter what it is, affects the entire colony. My dad was a beekeeper when I was a kid, they are amazing animals and we learned a lot.

I agree it needs to be independently verified, but the data looks good.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. The irony is that neonicotionoids are very poplular due to their low toxicity to humans and animals.
Sat May 10, 2014, 07:59 AM
May 2014

The active ingredient is based on the naturally occurring compound in tobacco, nicotine. Other popular insecticides are much more toxic and if neonicotionoids are banned or restricted then the use of those more toxic products will most likely begin to increase. For sure something needs to be done but the unintended consequences need to be considered.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
13. The problem becomes the fact that the use of insecticides is a selective breeding program.
Sat May 10, 2014, 08:20 AM
May 2014

You are selecting for resistance to the insecticides.

You breed super-bugs.

Just like Roundup use has become selective breeding program for weeds. The use of Roundup has positively selected for weeds that are Roundup Ready.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. Thats has always been and always will be an issue with any pesticide.
Sat May 10, 2014, 09:26 AM
May 2014

They are techniques such as alternating types of pesticides to minimize the problem but for sure its an issue. There are no good options for not using pesticides unless every man, woman and child are willing to take up hoes for a few hours every day.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. Urban farming reduces the use of pesticides.
Sat May 10, 2014, 10:35 AM
May 2014

By growing some of your own food in your own yard, you can utilize better pesticide options like Neem Oil and natural predators like lacewing flies, ladybugs, and praying mantids for some control to reduce your individual contribution to the use of pesticides.

The food tastes better, too.

You cannot be self sufficient, but you can reduce the reliance upon pesticides.

As far as neonicitinoids go, commercial beeks have begun refusing to pollinate crops that use them or are close to fields with crops that use them. It's quite possible the market will force them out or will keep them confined to farming areas where insect pollination is not required.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Sure, but to replace a significant fraction of the food grown commercially would require..
Sat May 10, 2014, 10:45 AM
May 2014

tremendous numbers of "urban/natural farms" on a massive scale. I agree we need to do something about this problem but its naïve to think we can supply enough food for the billions of people on this planet without commercial pesticides.

BTW, you do realize even "natural" techniques are subject to pest resistance?

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. Of course.
Sat May 10, 2014, 10:53 AM
May 2014

Predators are the best pesticide, though. As the prey becomes more resistant to the predator, the predators become better at catching the pray.

Also, monocultures invite pests. Companion planting in an urban garden setting can allow you to use no pesticides at all. It can't be done on a commercial scale, but each person can contribute to at least reduce consumption of pesticides.

I haven't used a pesticide in my backyard in over a decade and grow a lot of the food we consume for half the year. It doesn't eliminate pesticides, but it reduces them. I also buy organic, especially those vegetables that are prone to absorption of pesticides and herbicides. Finally, I only buy meat raised anti-biotic and hormone free and try as often as possible to purchase the more humanely raised organic meat. It's more expensive, but allows me to contribute in my own way.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
16. I love honeybees, and watch for them, but have not seen a single honeybee
Sat May 10, 2014, 10:41 AM
May 2014

yet this year in N. Central AZ.

"When the Last Tree Is Cut Down, the Last Fish Eaten, and the Last Stream Poisoned, You Will Realize That You Cannot Eat Money"
~ Alanis Obamsawin

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
18. I'd say larger picture targets monoculture agriculture. Our agriculture is so dysfunctional
Sat May 10, 2014, 10:48 AM
May 2014

in so many ways.

karadax

(284 posts)
20. More Than Honey - on Netflix
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:01 AM
May 2014

If you witness how bees are carted around on trucks going from place to place across America for the farming industry you'll be disgusted. Colonies are ripped apart and tossed together. Many are diseased. The bees die off so fast that they're imported in massive quantities to keep up with the farming demand. The mobile honeybee industry seems to be the only thing keeping American farms up and productive.

I also didn't know the honeybee originated in Europe. It's not supposed to be in North America to begin with.

The documentary is worth the time.

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