So then why is it wrong for Putin to visit Crimea but fine for Kerry to visit

[malaise]

Kiev?

[geek tragedy]

1. Because we didn't invade Ukraine and annex it. Next question? nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. +1

[William769]

3. +1.

[Jesus Malverde]

5. The IMF did.

An invasion of debt, annexed with an interim government that imposes austerity and kills its own citizens.

Yatz is a banker and represents them well.

[malaise]

11. The IMF does nothing without the

Washington Consensus.

Still maybe someone will explain why Reagan invaded Grenada and bombed the shite out of Panama?

[Jesus Malverde]

16. I think bush did panama.

Grenada was fairly obvious. The US had just lost some 250 marines in Lebanon in a single attack and had to retreat. It was a humiliation that needed a distraction.


Beirut Barracks Bombings October 23, 1983
Grenada Invasion October 25, 1983

[OilemFirchen]

13. Yup.

They flew in on unicorns with Swarovski daggers and ray guns, and King Kerry of the IMFs was hailed throughout Banksterland!

[Jesus Malverde]

19. Your taking the time to make a word salad.

[geek tragedy]

21. Lame metaphors aren't a substitute for reality.

Lots of Putin's apologists here would have loved Reagan's Latin American policies .

[lamp_shade]

4. What's with all the cranky DUers this morning?

[msanthrope]

6. Because taking a victory lap in territory you have annexed is bad form. nt

[malaise]

7. Like this fake celebration?

[Jesus Malverde]

9. a more recent irrational exuberance.

The humanitarian war waged to save women from roving rape gangs fueled by viagra

Replaced with a broken state ruled by sharia.

[malaise]

14. Yes indeed

Do you remember what those goons we in the West backed did to his corpse?

[Jesus Malverde]

18. Im less concerned about him than the women and minorities of Libya

They went from living in a secular society to being relegated to the stone ages.

The imposition of sharia and the ethnic cleansing of black Libyans are the biggest tragedies of that NATO adventure.

http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/07/07/libya-ethnic-cleansing/

[msanthrope]

10. Indeed. We called it out then, be consistent and call it out, now. nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. Yeah, Putin is roughly on the level of the guy many of us want prosecuted for war crimes (nt)

[Jesus Malverde]

8. When you control the bully pulpit you don't have to explain yourself.

Double standards do not apply.

One minute the mob is "protestors", the next they are "terrorists" to be liquidated.

The largest empire in the world, with troops on every continent can do as it wishes. Remember the victors write the history.

Anyone who questions the narrative is obviously an enemy to be derided and ridiculed.

Whats interesting about these empires, they do little for the regular people at home. Only insiders and elites profit.

[malaise]

15. +1,000

[treestar]

12. Kerry is a diplomat and Putin an invader

no equivalence at all.

[Nye Bevan]

20. Thanks for switching from a Putin/Kerry comparison to a Putin/W comparison

halfway through the thread. The first one was pretty ridiculous but the second actually had some merit.

[DemocraticWing]

22. It's an apt comparison.

Putin is a homophobic, warmongering, human rights violating, corporatist bastard. He'd fit right in with the right-wing. People who defend him here are sickening.

[joshcryer]

23. Putin is to Crimea as Bush was Iraq.

The Kerry analogy would be like Obama visiting Egypt after Mubarak was overthrown.