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Who is this Glenn Greenwald guy? (Original Post) Damansarajaya May 2014 OP
Here you go... rrneck May 2014 #1
He writes columns, they're not very well written JaneyVee May 2014 #2
Just another guy LWolf May 2014 #3
Some blogger that some people on the left like, others hate. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #4
and he tends to support Libertarians like Rand Paul.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #5
Yes, he's more cynical than MHP. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #13
"more cynical than MHP" VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #16
Is the 'African Command' military? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #19
When we sent troops to supply relief to India after the Tsunami....was that a "military action"? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #36
He's a poopiehead. Luminous Animal May 2014 #6
Okay, thanks to all. Damansarajaya May 2014 #8
He also wrote for the Guardian US. Has written 5 books Luminous Animal May 2014 #12
Hah. Thank you, I'm learning something here. nt Damansarajaya May 2014 #24
he supported Bush's invasion of Iraq. nt arely staircase May 2014 #25
I hope the main thing you learn is to not take someone's opinion as fact, scarletwoman May 2014 #32
Some of his left-wing positions: OilemFirchen May 2014 #28
I have read Greenwald for years, and he has never taken a right-wing position. Maedhros May 2014 #33
He is also a meaniebutt. n/t QC May 2014 #29
He's someone celebrated as a bastion of hope for the future... randome May 2014 #7
I don't hear much about him outside of DU. Damansarajaya May 2014 #9
And I don't take the time for much outside DU and TalkingPointsMemo. randome May 2014 #11
The people over on Daily Kos obsess about him a lot as well. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #14
That's funny....I am there as much as I am here... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #18
I was there for the last 5 years or so Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #22
I have been going there since we were moving into Baghdad. VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #35
apparently he's never, ever written one nice thing about the prez... KG May 2014 #10
Not THIS Prez.....but he did say some pretty flattering things about George W. Bush though! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #20
Another internet gadfly who failed his screen test. ucrdem May 2014 #15
Libertarian journalist. NuclearDem May 2014 #17
That is a flat-out lie, yet you keep repeating it. Maedhros May 2014 #34
None of these answers tell you anything much... JackRiddler May 2014 #21
Well, sure, that's what he's most known for now. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #23
Satan come to Earth. n/t Crunchy Frog May 2014 #26
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #27
I wish they would have more hot sweaty sex with SOMEONE... grasswire May 2014 #31
He harshly criticizes policies he opposes whether they involve Democratic or Republican Douglas Carpenter May 2014 #30
HE is both savior in form as Jesus Christ and destructor in form of Gozer the Gozerian. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #37
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. He writes columns, they're not very well written
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:05 AM
May 2014

In a literary sense, but they are blunt and get to the point.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Some blogger that some people on the left like, others hate.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:10 AM
May 2014

He apparently tends to say things that are controversial, giving those that hate him fodder to attack him constantly.

Hah. Melissa Harris-Perry just actually made the same that Greenwald did in his latest controversial tweet, that US interventionism could actually be harmful as well as helpful, and could make things worse in Nigeria. I doubt she'll get viciously attacked like he did, though, because she moderated slightly, and didn't just assume we'd screw things up.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
5. and he tends to support Libertarians like Rand Paul....
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:14 AM
May 2014

oh and no....he did NOT couch what he said in "maybes" about intervention in the Nigerian Hostage situation....

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
13. Yes, he's more cynical than MHP.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:31 AM
May 2014

He assumes that our intervention WILL make things worse, as opposed to possibly.

But I'm sure that if, as a response to US intervention, the rest of the kidnapped girls are immediately murdered to prevent a US rescue attempt, the people excoriating him will step up to apologize for immediately claiming that he might as well be a Nazi for foreseeing the possibility.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
16. "more cynical than MHP"
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:40 AM
May 2014

now there is an understatement if I EVER saw one!

If some of the responses to GG's the Nigerian hostage situation on DU are to be believed...ANY help at all would b called "military action"

THAT cynical!

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
19. Is the 'African Command' military?
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:43 AM
May 2014

Because of the people we're sending to Nigeria, it sounds like 2/3 are from the military.

I'd have to reread his tweet, but I don't think it said the girls shouldn't be rescued; I think it said he believed that if the US got into it, we'd screw it up, based upon our history of interventionism in other countries.

 

Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
8. Okay, thanks to all.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:19 AM
May 2014

He wrote for Salon.com, I get it.

But he also takes some right-wing positions apparently.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
12. He also wrote for the Guardian US. Has written 5 books
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:30 AM
May 2014

Four of them slamming the Bush admin. Several of which are best sellers. His new book about the surveillance state will be released next week.

He has won several awards for his reporting on the NSA.

He has raised money and ha endorsed Democrats running for congress.

Some of his right wing positions:
Expand social security
Single payer
100% public financing for elections
Freedom of the press

Also. He is a poopie head.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
32. I hope the main thing you learn is to not take someone's opinion as fact,
Sat May 10, 2014, 01:22 PM
May 2014

and to always investigate for yourself.

Take, for example, the post above that says: he supported Bush's invasion of Iraq. This statement conveniently omits the fact that at the time of the Iraq invasion, Glenn Greenwald was not a public person, and had not written or published a single word for public consumption. He had a private law practice, was largely apolitical - he did not even vote - and, like the majority of Americans at that time, was content to assume that our Leaders knew what they were doing and would not actively set out to deceive the American people.

Read the Preface to his first book, "How Would A Patriot Act?: Defending American Values from a President Run Amok": http://www.bookbrowse.com/excerpts/index.cfm?fuseaction=printable&book_number=1812 - he fully explains his journey from trust to outrage.

Excerpt: It is not desirable or fulfilling to realize that one does not trust one's own government and must disbelieve its statements, and I tried, along with scores of others, to avoid making that choice until the facts no longer permitted such logic.

Soon after our invasion of Iraq, when it became apparent that, contrary to Bush administration claims, there were no weapons of mass destruction, I began concluding, reluctantly, that the administration had veered far off course from defending the country against the threats of Muslim extremism. It appeared that in the great national unity the September 11 attacks had engendered, the administration had seen not a historically unique opportunity to renew a sense of national identity and cohesion, but instead a potent political weapon with which to impose upon our citizens a whole series of policies and programs that had nothing to do with terrorism, but that could be rationalized through an appeal to the nation's fear of further terrorist attacks.

And in the aftermath of the Iraq invasion came a whole host of revelations that took on an increasingly extremist, sinister, and decidedly un- American tenor. The United States was using torture as an interrogation tool, in contravention of legal prohibitions. We were violating international treaties we had signed, sending suspects in our custody for interrogation to the countries most skilled in human rights abuses. And as part of judicial proceedings involving Yaser Esam Hamdi, another U.S. citizen whom the Bush administration had detained with no trial and no access to counsel, George W. Bush began expressly advocating theories of executive power that were so radical that they represented the polar opposite of America's founding principles.

With all of these extremist and plainly illegal policies piling up, I sought to understand what legal and constitutional justifications the Bush administration could invoke to engage in such conduct. What I discovered, to my genuine amazement and alarm, is that these actions had their roots in sweeping, extremist theories of presidential power that many administration officials had been advocating for years before George Bush was even elected. The 9/11 attacks provided them with the opportunity to officially embrace those theories. In the aftermath of the attack, senior lawyers in the Bush Justice Department had secretly issued legal memoranda stating that the president can seize literally absolute, unchecked power in order to defend the country against terrorism. To assert, as they did, that neither Congress nor the courts can place any limits on the president's decisions is to say that the president is above the law. Once it became apparent that the administration had truly adopted these radical theories and had begun exerting these limitless, kinglike powers, I could no longer afford to ignore them.


I hope you will go to the link and read the whole preface, and see for yourself how twisted and deceitful the statement, he supported Bush's invasion of Iraq. actually is.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
28. Some of his left-wing positions:
Sat May 10, 2014, 12:11 PM
May 2014

Stop the flow of "illegal immigrants" (for which he later "apologized" by stating "That said, I do think illegal immigration is a serious problem: having millions of people live without legal rights; having a legal scheme that is so pervasively disregarded breeds contempt for the rule of law; virtually every country - not just the U.S. insists on border control because having a manageable immigration process is vital on multiple levels.&quot

Support a (random) billionaire for President.

Celebrate Citizens United.

Investigate BENGHAZI!!!

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
33. I have read Greenwald for years, and he has never taken a right-wing position.
Sat May 10, 2014, 02:09 PM
May 2014

He's never argued for tax cuts, he's never argued for increased military spending, he's never argued for restrictions on abortion, he's never argued for restrictions on gay marriage.

What he has done is criticize Obama's right-wing policies, and that make people angry.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. He's someone celebrated as a bastion of hope for the future...
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:18 AM
May 2014

...because he says stuff bluntly without regard to how complex the real world is. Celebrating him is like a craving for chocolate that some indulge in. The rest of us think he's a nobody.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
9. I don't hear much about him outside of DU.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:21 AM
May 2014

People like Krugman, Reich, Dean Baker, Sy Hersch, Andrew Sullivan etc. I read often.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. And I don't take the time for much outside DU and TalkingPointsMemo.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:25 AM
May 2014

So it's good to hear the opinion of an 'outsider' like yourself. And welcome to DU!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
18. That's funny....I am there as much as I am here...
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:42 AM
May 2014

and I have not noticed the same "GG lovefest" as I have seen on here DU!

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
22. I was there for the last 5 years or so
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:48 AM
May 2014

(in several accounts(edit for clarity: serially, I did not use multiple accounts at the same time) , as I moved from semi-pseudonymous to pseudonymous to finally totally out in the open) and there are indeed both pro-and anti-Greenwald factions onsite. There's a pretty major divide between the centrists and the lefties on DK, and the people who hate Greenwald there usually align very well with the centrist faction, and the reverse. I haven't paid attention over there for the latest flap, as I'm taking a break from DK, and realizing that I've wasted far too much time paying attention to meta. And really, Greenwald love or hate is meta.

KG

(28,751 posts)
10. apparently he's never, ever written one nice thing about the prez...
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:24 AM
May 2014

even though that's not his job, and that makes him a poopie-head, as stated above...

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
17. Libertarian journalist.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:42 AM
May 2014

Who, by libertarianism's nature, writes articles that civil libertarians here agree with sometimes.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
34. That is a flat-out lie, yet you keep repeating it.
Sat May 10, 2014, 02:11 PM
May 2014

You cannot provide a single link showing Greenwald supporting Libertarian policies.

Please stop being disingenuous.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
21. None of these answers tell you anything much...
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:46 AM
May 2014

predictably. The atmosphere here around the subject is so poisoned that even his supporters respond in that context.

Today he's first of all known internationally as the journalist who first broke the Snowden revelations.

Just check out his current online mag, The Intercept, and delve back into his past work if you need more.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
23. Well, sure, that's what he's most known for now.
Sat May 10, 2014, 11:50 AM
May 2014

But the love him/hate him fight was on for years before Snowden came around.

Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
31. I wish they would have more hot sweaty sex with SOMEONE...
Sat May 10, 2014, 12:32 PM
May 2014

....because the endorphins would significantly improve their mood.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
30. He harshly criticizes policies he opposes whether they involve Democratic or Republican
Sat May 10, 2014, 12:26 PM
May 2014

Administrations. He has the goofy false equivalency idea that if something was wrong during the Bush Administration then it is also wrong during the Obama Administration.

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