Hundreds of ATV riders in Utah threaten sacred Navajo burial ground to protest federal government

[riqster]

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/05/10/Hundreds-of-ATV-riders-in-Utah-threaten-sacred-Navajo-burial-ground-to-protest-federal-government/7271399741853/?spt=sec&or=tn?spt=nil&d=n

More bullshit from anti-government goons.

SALT LAKE CITY, May 10 (UPI) --Protesters who say the Bureau of Land Management has no right to criminalize use of ATVs in Utah's Recapture Canyon plan to demonstrate today by illegally riding their vehicles through the protected land - a move that has drawn the ire of Native Americans and displaced a veterans retreat.
"It is sad that irreplaceable treasures of importance to all Americans would be sacrificed on the altar of anti-government fervor," Jerry Spangler, executive director of the Colorado Plateau Archaeological Alliance said in a statement. "It is worse that protesters would be so blinded to their own insensitivity as to what others consider to be sacred treasures of their past."

Willie Grayeyes, chair of a nonprofit that lobbies to protect Navajo land, was offended at both the protesters' dismissive attitude toward Native American culture and their disrespect for the American veterans who had to move their long-scheduled retreat to ensure it could be held in peace.

[GusBob]

1. true outdoors men and women hate atvs . and jet skis

Noisy and obnoxious just like the dickheads who ride them

[oneofthe99]

4. I own one and I'm a true outdoorsman

I'm too damn old to drag a deer or to carry 6 dozen goose decoys

They are a tool same as your automobile

[GusBob]

8. what did the older hunters do when we were young?

I'm old too. Never a tool in any hunting camp I have or ever will be a part in. Get a dozen jumbo dekes and save the gas.

[oneofthe99]

9. Your argument could be used against the man that cut wood by ax and maul

for the last 51 years and also built a log cabin by hand on his own .

That's me also but now I have a gas powered log splitter and an ATV

When I hear the term true outdoors man or true hunter it kind of makes me laugh.

Do you hunt by spear or make your own bow and arrows? Or do you use a store bought bow ?

Maybe even a rifle.... see how silly it sounds when you use the term true outdoorsman..............

[GusBob]

10. tell that to the native americans who are getting rode over

They never needed 6 dozen goose decoys

[oneofthe99]

12. I'm telling it to you

[Orrex]

18. If you've seen one heavy, wood-splitting bludgeon...

You've seen a maul.

[riqster]

21. Splitter!

http://m.

[pinboy3niner]

23. DUzy!

[riqster]

28. It's a wedge issue:

http://m.harborfreight.com/5-lb-wood-wedge-94349.html?utm_referrer=direct%2Fnot%20provided

[Orrex]

19. What about snowmobiles?

They seem analogous to ATVs, and the Inuit make extensive use of snowmobiles.


Does that mean that they're not "true outdoors men and women?"

[riqster]

30. Both vehicle types can be used for good or ill.

I have been in places where you needed ATVs and snowmobiles to get to town for necessities.

Not the case with these Bundyoids; they are just trashing the area with their noisy toys.

[Cleita]

26. I'm with you.

I once hosted at a campground on a lake. The jet skis were disruptive to the wildlife and the jet skiers were mostly obnoxious, self involved jerks. I petitioned the forest service to ban them, but didn't get much support. A lot of motorized boats should be banned too.

Where I live now, activists are trying to get ATVs banned on the Guadalupe Dunes because of the disruption to the wild life.

[NickB79]

40. Motorized vehicles have their place

But should be used sparingly if you really want to enjoy nature, not just zip through it on a sight-seeing tour.

Driving to your deer stand in an ATV, shooting a deer, and then driving out again on an ATV isn't far removed from simply driving to the local grocery store and picking up a roast for dinner, IMO.

Maybe that's why so many hunters I see these days look more and more like this:

They need to get out and walk a little more, ride a little less.

[oneofthe99]

2. piano wire

[Politicalboi]

3. LOL!

Name that Tune.

[rudolph the red]

5. im in Blanding, i do not think it happened. It's been pretty quiet.

[pinboy3niner]

17. It happened

Dozens of protesters ride in off-limits canyon
http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/dozens-of-protesters-ride-in-off-limits-ut-canyon/article_93fd809f-9aaf-56c3-a5ff-a15b666342e3.html

'Bundy Affair' Rides Again in Utah Canyon Protest

Ryan Bundy, son of the Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, rides an ATV into Recapture Canyon north of Blanding, Utah on Saturday, May 10, 2014, in a protest against what demonstrators call the federal government's overreaching control of public lands.

The Salt Lake Tribune, Trent Nelson/AP Photo

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/30-protesters-ride-atvs-off-limits-ut-canyon-23669241

[Art_from_Ark]

41. He looks like one of the bad guys

from a spaghetti Western

[riqster]

42. When stereotypes attack...

[rudolph the red]

43. Things were pretty much normal here this weekend,

nobody in Blanding that I have talked to seems to know anything about it. I spent Sunday hiking Moqui Canyon with friends, which isn't far away from Recapture. I think that the press may be elevating this event, and making more of it than it really was.

[NYC_SKP]

6. Send in drones.

Armed with paintball guns.

But instead of paint, fill the balls with something disgusting and permanent.

[riqster]

29. Dung would be appropriate.

Tortoise dung would be poetic justice to boot.

[jmowreader]

7. This is a picture of them trashing Recapture Canyon

I really hope the BLM confiscates all their ATVs, sells them at a public auction in Maine (so there's no way the protesters will ever get them back), and uses the funds to repair the damage they caused today.

[AleksS]

11. How the hell do they dare flying American flags while they

How the hell do they dare flying American flags while they pull this stunt.

Even the rebels in the civil war made their own flag.

There just aren't enough bad things for me to hope happen to these folks.

[jmowreader]

13. They have no sense of irony

They're attempting to overthrow the United States while waving my flag. Makes me wanna puke.

[riqster]

24. They have a sense of Orwell, if not irony.

[boomer55]

14. Dear President Obama. Please go George Washington on these turncoats

End this silly nonsense firmly and decisively show them that yes the US government is in charge and you better damn well listen and never take up arms against us.

[riqster]

25. I wonder if any of these "militia" goons know about the Whiskey Rebellion?

[JEB]

15. Ride the god damn noisy machines over the graves of their own ancestors.

[riqster]

16. Even better: ride them in their yards, at oh-dark-thirty.

Tell them it's our right to do so.

[Orrex]

20. This is great, because indigenous people haven't been fucked-with enough.

[riqster]

22. Well, they aren't "Real 'Murcans", now, are they?

[RKP5637]

27. Too much crap like this gets a free pass. Round them up and seize their wheels. n/t

[Wellstone ruled]

31. Hiked into and spent a whole day in this Canyon.

We did this some 20 years ago,met a Ranger along the way. This Lady Ranger hiked with us all the way in and through the sensitive areas pointing out all of the Ancient Peoples Cliff Houses and tools and pottery near by. What a History lesson,met the same Ranger,who now works at Mesa Verde,last summer. She was telling our group why Recapture was closed. Seems the Locals were taking and selling artifacts on the internet. With only 2 people working in the local BLM office,there aren't enough people to protect this Historical site. Also there has been a systematic defunding for paid staff positions within the BLM by Rethug politicians in D.C..


When you see these jerkoffs from Militialand cruising through this canyon,just pisses us off. It is just a real example of how out of touch a group of so called adults have become. It is all about the money and being used by the 1%ers. Most of Utah's Ancient Peoples sites have huge deposits of Oil and Gas as well as Coal and Uranium,need I say more,it's all about the money.

[riqster]

32. Heartbreaking.

[NYC_SKP]

33. ***** BLM Says It Will Prosecute Illegal ATV Riders at Recapture Canyon *****

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024943402

Fuck this asshole!

[riqster]

36. Here's hoping. The Bundyoids need to face justice.

[closeupready]

34. They WILL loot all the portable ancient artifacts, and destroy

what they can't take - my prediction.

[eShirl]

35. they're that one toddler running around smearing his poop all over the daycare center

laughing

[riqster]

37. Poop is easier to clean up.

They're more like toddlers with Molotov Cocktails.

[closeupready]

38. Further to my post above, if they succeed in this vandalism,

they are likely to destroy many of the ancient natural monuments in the Southwest, like those in Monument Valley, similar to how that guy tipped over that formation in Goblin Valley last year.

Sorry to be such a pessimist.

[riqster]

39. Agreed. We need to push the Feds to pull their thumbs out,

Lest it get even worse.