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The cartoon hillbilly - by Tom Tomorrow (Original Post) kpete May 2014 OP
Snuffy fer Prznit!!! HughBeaumont May 2014 #1
So glad to see you are here as well, have enjoyed your toons for a while now randys1 May 2014 #2
LOL - K&R myrna minx May 2014 #3
How much further down the food chain will they go? Walk away May 2014 #4
I hear there is some slime mold that doesn't think job creators should pay any taxes/ Hassin Bin Sober May 2014 #33
I lov Tom Tomorrow Tsiyu May 2014 #5
The toon wasn't *just* about Cliven Bundy, though nxylas May 2014 #7
I just get tired of the hatin' on hillbillies Tsiyu May 2014 #9
Thank you. theHandpuppet May 2014 #10
No problem Tsiyu May 2014 #21
Posted almost 8 years ago. Not much has changed.... theHandpuppet May 2014 #36
In my very distressed ( as classified by Appalachian Regional Commission ) Tsiyu May 2014 #38
Yep Go Vols May 2014 #14
The dumb is powerful with this word Tsiyu May 2014 #22
I come from a long line of hillbillies smiley May 2014 #24
I loved reading Snuffy Smith in the comics, Art_from_Ark May 2014 #32
I thought the point was to make fun of the offensive stereotype. Jim Lane May 2014 #16
I'm sure all the hillbillies in your city agree with you n/t Tsiyu May 2014 #23
Well, it had to be a *cartoon* hillbilly -- eppur_se_muova May 2014 #19
Thanks Tsiyu May 2014 #20
No problem. Coal miner's nephew, cousin, and grandson here ... eppur_se_muova May 2014 #25
TN here Tsiyu May 2014 #30
Closer in geography at least is Yosemite Sam. Eleanors38 May 2014 #31
Exactly Tsiyu May 2014 #34
While you are correct about Bundy, mdbl May 2014 #28
+100% agree lunasun May 2014 #29
Great cartoon Gothmog May 2014 #6
brilliant again, Tom Tomorrow! BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #8
I agree. Archae May 2014 #11
Wonderful! LOL! Auggie May 2014 #12
As soon as I saw Snuffy, I knew callous taoboy May 2014 #13
Hill.... LiberalLovinLug May 2014 #15
Next week: Cartoon Preacher for Prezidint! DirkGently May 2014 #17
does this mean Tom Tomorrow reads the Comics Curmudgeon? MisterP May 2014 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #26
Perfect Champion Jack May 2014 #27
cute, yet apt cartoon heaven05 May 2014 #35
K&R for TT! nt raouldukelives May 2014 #37

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
5. I lov Tom Tomorrow
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:01 AM
May 2014

but Bundy ain't no hillbilly.

Hillbillies are poor, hillbillies are humble and hillbillies are no more nor less racist than any other group.

Also, hillbillies are not Mormon ranchers.

Just another hippy-hillbilly here, living in the guts of poor Appalachia.

Love ya Tom but you got your facts a little off on this one

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
7. The toon wasn't *just* about Cliven Bundy, though
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:40 AM
May 2014

While Bundy was obviously the immediate inspiration, it was a comment on the wider Republican tendency to make folk heroes out of somewhat ridiculous figures.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
9. I just get tired of the hatin' on hillbillies
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:47 AM
May 2014

That's all, and because pretending that the problem is poor mountain people - and not rich fucks like the Kochsuckers and FOX Noos and Limpballs - takes the onus off the affluent sociopaths and places the blame on the least of these.

It does nothing to shine a light, only obscures reality


YMMV

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
36. Posted almost 8 years ago. Not much has changed....
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:23 AM
May 2014

Why is name-calling the poor still okay even among "progressives"?
Posted by theHandpuppet in Poverty
Fri Aug 04th 2006, 10:46 AM

I'm posting this rant on the Poverty Forum because I don't dare post it on GD. I've brought this subject up before only to be met with outright hostility. Am I the only person who is sick and tired of a certain kind of name-calling that goes on throughout the "progressive" community here? Why is it that folks who otherwise identify themselves as politically enlightened think it's okay to refer to their political foes as "trailer trash", "stupid hillbillies" et al?

This is really, really bothering me and I'm having a hard time keeping a lid on my anger. I am Appalachian and a proud Scottish/German Jewish, college educated, progressive lesbian "hillbilly" who grew up as a "river rat" but has been an activist since I was involved in publishing an anti-war newsletter at 15 and helped lead a mass walkout of my high school to protest the Vietnam War. I am DAMNED SICK AND TIRED of every bozo Repuke being dismissed as some "toothless, ignorant hillbilly" when a majority of the people throwing those perjoratives around wouldn't know a hillbilly if they woke up next to one in the morning.

If you dare to object to this kind of name-calling you're called thin-skinned or told to "lighten up". Well, I'm not going to "lighten up." The poor are not our enemies, the powerless are not our enemies, the hungry or uneducated are not our enemies. The ones pulling the strings in this country can be found among the uber rich and their corporate allies. They can have Ivy-League educations. They live in the best homes. They're still scumbags. I'll proudly take my poor hillbilly neighbors any day over their kind of trash.

I had to grow up with that kind of hurtful name-calling and I'm totally sick of hearing this on DU. It's a kind of class warfare that turns my stomach. So what can you do?

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
38. In my very distressed ( as classified by Appalachian Regional Commission )
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:53 AM
May 2014

county, Obama got about 45% of the vote, which is a higher percentage than in many of those upscale suburban enclaves in which many of the hillbilly-denigraters live.

The term is like the n word, to me. I call myself one proudly, but don't you call me that as a pejorative or blame the political climate on the hillbilly.

Most of the geeks who showed up to Bundyville probably live in Suburbia anyway. That's why they can afford to leave for a time and why they want a back-to-the-land experience.

True hillbillies are too poor to leave home, and they have their own places to tend to without worrying about some Mormon rancher's cattle.

I love what you wrote there, too. I know it's cool to have SOMEONE to denigrate and I guess I choose teabaggers, but I know they are comfy suburbanites, not people struggling to survive.



Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
14. Yep
Mon May 12, 2014, 12:56 PM
May 2014
Hillbilly is a term (often derogatory) for people who dwell in rural, mountainous areas primarily in Appalachia but also parts of the Ozarks in the United States. Due to its strongly stereotypical connotations, the term can be offensive to those Americans of Appalachian heritage.


Not funny at all.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
22. The dumb is powerful with this word
Mon May 12, 2014, 05:55 PM
May 2014

As if a Mormon would brag about making shine!

This makes true hillbillies just CRINGE.

There were other examples he could have used.

I work helping these people I love. They are shit on by everybody. So to equate their lives to some Welfare Cowboy's life is just ridiculously uneducated and WRONG.

"Let's just demonize these poor folks even more!"

smiley

(1,432 posts)
24. I come from a long line of hillbillies
Mon May 12, 2014, 07:09 PM
May 2014

and I'm not offended in the least by this brilliant piece of political satire.

Just sayin....

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
32. I loved reading Snuffy Smith in the comics,
Mon May 12, 2014, 10:58 PM
May 2014

and the names of my junior high and high school sports teams were, respectively, the Ridgerunners and the Mountaineers. The Tom Tomorrow cartoon doesn't offend me in the least, either

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. I thought the point was to make fun of the offensive stereotype.
Mon May 12, 2014, 02:24 PM
May 2014

He didn't refer to a typical hillbilly but to a "cartoon" hillbilly. Along with slamming the right wing media for hypocrisy and Benghazi derangement syndrome, he was pointing out how they're happy to grab a caricature when it suits their purposes.

Count me as one city dweller who didn't react to the toon in the way you condemn.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
19. Well, it had to be a *cartoon* hillbilly --
Mon May 12, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

real hillbillies are too sophisticated to represent Teabagger thinking.

Ditto for cavemen, while we're at it.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
20. Thanks
Mon May 12, 2014, 05:50 PM
May 2014

It's just kinda silly to represent a Mormon desert rancher with hundreds of cattle as a mountain poor man.

One of my pet peeves is hatin' on hillbillies. I am in the business of helping them. And most in my poor community are Democrats

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
25. No problem. Coal miner's nephew, cousin, and grandson here ...
Mon May 12, 2014, 07:25 PM
May 2014

my mom is from WV, and gets tired of the crap she hears about WVans, so I know what you're referring to.

Oh, and hey, living in AL brings its own rewards ...

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
30. TN here
Mon May 12, 2014, 09:20 PM
May 2014

I love Snuffy Smiff, don't get me wrong. It's in fun.

But Bundy is not that character.

Whether SS was a stand-in for any generic cartoon character is questionable to me simply because I've seen people who probably have never met a hillbilly give them all sorts of unfair attributes - effectively being just as bigoted as the true bigots they seek to condemn.

Whenever we make the poor the object of scorn, or pretend they are the cause of conflict or political exploitation, we're choosing to let the true guilty parties off the hook.

And Alabamians know the only true white lightning comes from these parts! How dare they associate Bundy with moonshine, dammit!

This is an outrage! Just in case!

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
34. Exactly
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:30 PM
May 2014

There were better choices.

Edit to add: Snuffy is a pretty peaceful guy now, although he was not always so and was once a caricature of a racist wife beater, but Yosemite Sam the gunslinger is more appropriate.

What's done is done, but I just get tired of hearing the word hillbilly used incorrectly

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
28. While you are correct about Bundy,
Mon May 12, 2014, 08:13 PM
May 2014

I know a few hillbillies that the cartoon definitely represents. And yes,they are family.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
8. brilliant again, Tom Tomorrow!
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:47 AM
May 2014

Perfect. Love how that's his name, too....Cartoon Hillbilly.

Cartoon Caveman.

Cuz that's what pukes understand. Cartoonish simplification. Lowest common denominator.

Archae

(46,301 posts)
11. I agree.
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:54 AM
May 2014

There was a editorial cartoon during the Bush years called "I Drew This."

He drew one where Bush acted like he was "He-Man" while Osama and Saddam were drawn as the cartoon bad guys.

callous taoboy

(4,584 posts)
13. As soon as I saw Snuffy, I knew
Mon May 12, 2014, 12:46 PM
May 2014

this was a brilliant cartoon. Tomorrow really knows how to accentuate, but then make murky, parallels between the stuffed shirt morons and the just plain morons.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
15. Hill....
Mon May 12, 2014, 01:45 PM
May 2014

...Larious as usual

Us liberals may not have the MSM on our side in general, but we got the political cartoonists, at least the funny ones.

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