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TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
Tue May 13, 2014, 07:47 PM May 2014

I agree with Donald Sterling's wife...

I don't think she should be forced to sell her half of the Los Angeles Clippers because of the words of her husband.

Shelly Sterling claimed professional basketball officials are deliberately trying to push her away from taking over her husband’s team simply because she’s a woman.

“I wholly feel that I’ve done nothing wrong,” she told NBC’s “Today.”

She said she agrees with the league’s right to force her husband to sell, but that she will continue to fight for her stake in the team.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/shelly-sterling-slams-nba-sexist-vows-fight-stake-husband-team-article-1.1790001#ixzz31dtCDOhG

It's sexist and it's bullshit.

TYY
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I agree with Donald Sterling's wife... (Original Post) TeeYiYi May 2014 OP
Agreed... Mr_Harshaw May 2014 #1
She is as racist as her husband. kwassa May 2014 #2
It is entirely possible... TeeYiYi May 2014 #11
I believe they have her on video discriminating against tenants.nt RiffRandell May 2014 #26
Yep. nt RiffRandell May 2014 #14
Agreed. William769 May 2014 #3
I don't think she should be forced to sell, either... JackRiddler May 2014 #4
Oh, okay, that was harsh. JackRiddler May 2014 #9
I wonder donco May 2014 #5
It's a ploy. Don't fall for it. Gman May 2014 #6
Yeah -- does this mean she's changed her mind about divorcing him? rocktivity May 2014 #16
All true Gman May 2014 #19
They are just trying to keep the team demigoddess May 2014 #7
Disagree..she is as racist as her husband... HipChick May 2014 #8
She has a point. There is a reason why divorce laws look at co-owned property. If this was a Burger genwah May 2014 #10
That is a problem with marriage. Downwinder May 2014 #12
You mean, if this were a same-sex marraige rocktivity May 2014 #13
I'll be honest, rocktivity... TeeYiYi May 2014 #21
My point is that she DOESN'T have a point rocktivity May 2014 #22
If she were male... TeeYiYi May 2014 #28
Like I've said downthread rocktivity May 2014 #29
it's in the NBA constitution....not sexist, not bullshit spanone May 2014 #15
looks like that rule will help to avoid a lot of problems JI7 May 2014 #17
boom goes the dynamite. tammywammy May 2014 #18
If that's the contract she signed... TeeYiYi May 2014 #20
agree with that, but looks like it doesn't matter in this case. spanone May 2014 #23
But did SHE sign the NBA constitution? rocktivity May 2014 #25
She is a despicable racist and everyone knows it BrotherIvan May 2014 #24
That's what I was referring to in my above post. RiffRandell May 2014 #27
I think you are right. 840high May 2014 #30
I am against sexism BrotherIvan May 2014 #31
The NBA... TeeYiYi May 2014 #32
It's pretty widely known here in LA that they are both equally reprehensible BrotherIvan May 2014 #33

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
2. She is as racist as her husband.
Tue May 13, 2014, 07:57 PM
May 2014

She was deeply involved in trying to get black and Hispanic residents out of their apartment houses.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
11. It is entirely possible...
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:06 PM
May 2014

...that she's as racist as her husband; however, if they want to go after her for being racist, they should condemn her with her own words and actions, and not those of her husband.

TYY

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
4. I don't think she should be forced to sell, either...
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:00 PM
May 2014

She and all of the other owners should be expropriated without any compensation whatsoever, and the teams set up either as municipal trusts or on the Green Bay Packers model.

donco

(1,548 posts)
5. I wonder
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:00 PM
May 2014

If she would agree to buyout her husband half what the league would have to say about that?That sure would be a dilemma time for the league imo.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
6. It's a ploy. Don't fall for it.
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:01 PM
May 2014

The ownership structure was set up to protect Sterling and his investment. He used his wife and kids to create this structure.

They're likely working with a media consultant and will say anything.

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
16. Yeah -- does this mean she's changed her mind about divorcing him?
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:37 PM
May 2014

Last edited Tue May 13, 2014, 09:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Are they even living together as spouses? I mean, she HAS been trying to divorce him!

What belongs to the husband belongs to the wife also. What the husband loses contractually the wife loses also.


rocktivity

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
7. They are just trying to keep the team
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:02 PM
May 2014

inside the family. Other family members are demanding their shares too. Then they will let him tell them how to manage it. That way nothing really changes.

genwah

(574 posts)
10. She has a point. There is a reason why divorce laws look at co-owned property. If this was a Burger
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:05 PM
May 2014

King franchise as opposed to a MLB franchise, what would the courts do?

Yes, there's a difference between a Burger King franchise and the team, but that's mostly in that cities/counties/states won't subsidize the construction, maintenance, road access, and security of your Burger King, to the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, but a franchise is a franchise. Why should she be forced from the gravy train because her husband is a jerk?

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
12. That is a problem with marriage.
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:19 PM
May 2014

As a general partner you become liable for a spouses deeds or misdeeds.

Should have limited liability marriages like we have LLCs.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
21. I'll be honest, rocktivity...
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:08 PM
May 2014

...I'm not sure what your point is. Maybe you can help me to understand how same-sex marriage correlates here...

TYY

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
22. My point is that she DOESN'T have a point
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:18 PM
May 2014

unless she signed the same contract as her husband. If she were male, would she be crying "homophobia!"?


rocktivity

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
28. If she were male...
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:57 PM
May 2014

...and 'he' and Donald Sterling were married, with all the legal safety nets, loop holes, et al... I'm guessing that 'he' would still maintain fiscal autonomy regarding his 50% share of the team.

I'll confess my dearth of knowledge when it comes to marriage law. Are you saying that something in the marriage contract would automatically strip 'him' of protection when it comes to the vulnerability of personal assets?

Don't married couples have separate bank accounts, stock portfolios, etc.?...

TYY

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
29. Like I've said downthread
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:07 PM
May 2014

it depends on whether she's a CONTROLLING owner by contract as well as next-of-kin owner by marriage.


rocktivity

spanone

(135,812 posts)
15. it's in the NBA constitution....not sexist, not bullshit
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:35 PM
May 2014
"Under the NBA Constitution, if a controlling owner's interest is terminated by a 3/4 vote, all other team owners' interests are automatically terminated as well," according to a statement from NBA spokesman Mike Bass. "It doesn't matter whether the owners are related as is the case here. These are the rules to which all NBA owners agreed to as a condition of owning their team."



http://www.guampdn.com/usatoday/article/8974663&usatref=sportsmod

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
20. If that's the contract she signed...
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:05 PM
May 2014

...then so be it. Let the chips fall where they may. If she's a racist too, let them strangle her with her own words. If she's contractually at risk, then law will trump emotion.

My only point was that she should be held accountable for her own words and not those of her husband.

TYY

spanone

(135,812 posts)
23. agree with that, but looks like it doesn't matter in this case.
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:20 PM
May 2014


but it looks like she's going to contest it:

"We do not agree with the league's self-serving interpretation of its constitution, its application to Shelly Sterling or its validity under these unique circumstances," her lawyer Pierce O'Donnell said in a statement. "We live in a nation of laws. California law and the United States Constitution trump any such interpretation."

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
25. But did SHE sign the NBA constitution?
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:36 PM
May 2014

"CONTROLLING owner" seems to be the keyword here. Shelly may own half the team's EQUITY by marriage, but unless she was actually her husband's co-CONTROLLING owner and also signed on the NBA constitution, I don't see where she has a case.


rocktivity

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
24. She is a despicable racist and everyone knows it
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:34 PM
May 2014

She was named as a co-defendant in the housing discrimination lawsuits.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-court-documents-donald-sterling-wife-20140429-story.html#TmYb6sgRZrxQ3eJb

There's even video of her posing as a health inspector to illegally enter tenant's apartments.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/sports&id=9523346

She is not a victim and her statement that she "has done nothing wrong" is totally false. They are playing this game between the two of them to keep from selling the team. She's been divorcing him for twenty years. They're both sick, twisted people and they deserve each other.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
31. I am against sexism
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:22 PM
May 2014

But I'm not sure we should be defending someone who is just as evil. I get mad without knowing the facts many times, but if presented the information, I definitely would rescind my support. This woman is trash.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
32. The NBA...
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:28 PM
May 2014

...should use her own history of racism to force her out, and not rely on the racist comments of her husband.

TYY

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
33. It's pretty widely known here in LA that they are both equally reprehensible
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:50 PM
May 2014

There's so many reasons to want to get rid of both of them. I think because they are pulling dirty tricks, the NBA will do whatever it can to get rid of them. Her claim of sexism only hurts real cases where women are discriminated against. We should not support her lies. She didn't get caught saying bad things about famous players, she was caught discriminating against minorities in housing which is illegal. They used their money to settle out, but that doesn't mean she deserves one iota of anything but shame. There are much more important battles to fight.

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