5.15.14

[Scuba]

[riqster]

1. Kick for the workers!

[xchrom]

2. du rec.

[marble falls]

3. I'm Marble Falls and I endorse this message!

[mountain grammy]

4. hear, hear!!

[rurallib]

5. This takes a tremendous amount of courage on behalf of the workers

I would guess each and every protester is putting their job on the line.
Please support there folks!

[annabanana]

6. kickers!... n/t

[951-Riverside]

7. I support raising worker's wages to $20 an hour and putting McDonald's out of business

They are responsible for giving millions if not billions heart disease and diabetes. They literally feed people poison and they need to be shut down. This is the best way of doing it.

[former9thward]

10. You support putting millions of workers out of work.

Nice to know where you are coming from.

[951-Riverside]

11. They can always find a union job that pays a living wage and doesnt feed people poison. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Finding jobs is that easy, hunh? Where is that again? Your little area, perhaps? nt

[former9thward]

13. BS.

[mwooldri]

14. In North Carolina? Come on... pull the other one.

About 3% - yes, three percent - of North Carolina's employed workforce belong to a union. The lowest rate of participation in the USA.

Source: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/union2.pdf

McDonalds is McDonalds. If they're serving actual poisoned food then this needs to be exposed. I know an awful lot of their food items are not very good for you. Just like Burger King, Wendys, local burger joints, etc.

Also NC has an unemployment problem... numbers are going down but that's because a lot of people have ran out of benefits - cut drastically by the new Republican leadership in Raleigh. Some of the jobs aren't there - union or non-union. And if there is the job and you get it, it's highly unlikely that you could get representation by a union. Unless you're a teacher.

[Egnever]

23. Yea they just prefer working at mcdonalds for shit

[rhett o rick]

31. How about this logic? If McDonald's closed tomorrow, yes millions would be out of work.

But the business of the other fast food businesses would take up the load and they would be hiring. It kinda all works out.

And why the snark? "Nice to know where you are coming from. "

[former9thward]

33. Ohh, great logic.

I guess now the minimum wage only applies to one company. Everybody else is exempt. Every fast food place would be out of business. And yes -- anyone who wants to throw millions out of work -- yes I do know where they are coming from.

[rhett o rick]

34. Are you interested in a rational discussion or just be snarky?

A Hike In The Minimum Wage Could Be A Huge Boon To Small Businesses

More information indicating that raising the minimum wage wont end life as we know it.

Studies found that an increase in the minimum wage didn't generally lead to mass terminations of employees

One major result of a hike in the minimum wage is that it has a similar impact as a stimulus package, a study from the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank found. Essentially, households impacted by a $1.00 increase in the minimum wage use that additional revenue to make purchases of large durable goods, often home appliances and especially cars. This net effect has a positive impact on the economy in the quarters following a minimum wage increase.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/raising-minimum-wage-small-businesses-retail-2013-2#ixzz2zwQEuw1h

Are you saying that you dont favor raising the min wage?

See my post #35 below.

[former9thward]

37. "Are you saying that you dont favor raising the min wage? "

And you call me snarky. The poster I was replying to specifically said he wanted the minimum wage raised to $20 a hour to drive McDonald's out of business. Do you agree with that approach or not? It is a yes or no.

A $20 minimum wage would drive McDonald's out of business along with every other fast food place and hundreds of thousands of other small businesses. Do you agree with that approach or not? It is a yes or no.

I favor raising the minimum wage in a reasonable amount just as President Obama does.

[rhett o rick]

38. Where do you get any data that says that raising the min wage will drive fast foods out of business?

I referenced articles that quote studies that say the opposite. Raising the min wage is good for the economy esp small businesses.

I figure $15 per hour is fair. The min wage has been suppressed for decades. Apparently Pres Obama doesnt think the poor deserve to support themselves, but you know that the taxpayers have to make up the difference via foodstamps and other similar programs. And McDonalds can handle $15 per hour.

[former9thward]

39. Again you ignore what I replied to in order to throw out strawmen.

The poster said $20 a hour to drive McDonald's out of business. It is his assessment that would do it. That is also my view. The poster did not care if millions were driven out of work. According to him they can "find union jobs". Do you agree? Yes or no?

[rhett o rick]

40. Again, this is what you posted that I responded to, " You support putting millions of workers out of

work. Nice to know where you are coming from."

[former9thward]

42. Yep I did.

And you have never responded to the fact that millions would be put out of work at $20 a hour. You either support the idiocy of that poster or you do not. You will not give an answer to that no matter how many time it is asked.

[rhett o rick]

43. It is not a fact "that millions would be put out of work at $20 a hour."

No matter how many times you say it, it is not a fact. Sounds more like a scare tactic.

And you havent responded to the two posts I made quoting facts about how raising the min wage WOULD HELP THE ECONOMY.

Suppressing the min wage is a conservative stand promoted by corporations that put profit ahead of workers lives.

[yeoman6987]

26. You are too funny

I am literally eating my McDonald's french fries now. I also have a Crispy Chicken Sandwich. A hot fudge Sundae and a diet coke. I love the folks here. I even told the Manager five minutes ago that they have the best staff I have scene. she we very happy to hear. Apparently in Arnold Maryland they don't say that much. I was happy to see them happy.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Truly global activists would use international dates, not American dates.

This is supposed to be a global protest. Truly global activists would use international dates, not American dates. The fact that the graphic uses the American-centric date format is very narrow-minded.

Month.Day.Year is American and American only.

Europe and Canada (mixed but predominantly) and most of the rest of the world use Day.Month.Year, as does the US military.

Both systems are antiquated and obsolete. Much better is the International standard, ISO ISO 8601 in use 26 years already: YYYY-MM-DD. It sorts properly too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country#Map

Once again, as with the non-metric system, stupid American exceptionalism.


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[Scuba]

9. Gee, thanks.

[yeoman6987]

27. You have saved the day!

[erronis]

29. Stop being so damn logical

You know the North Americans known as 'merkins' or 'yanquis' aren't big on logic.

Ever since I started my 'puting career (40+ years ago) I've tried to force the YYYY-MM-DD format. It's funny how many people that use dates in the financial industry prefer zillion bastardizations of such. Perhaps its another way to pretend to have some "knowledge" that no one outside would know.

And then I wonder about the calamity that will occur as 9999-12-31 comes around...

[OffWithTheirHeads]

30. I don't know how anybody eats that shit anyway.

Twice in the last three years I have been hungry enough to stop at Carls and Mickey D. Their shit is unedible. I ended up throwing most of it away. O.K. so I'm one of those slow cook people who would and can spend a whole day cooking dinner but that shit is unedible.

[William769]

15. kick & recommended.

[AnneD]

16. I am not stoping in today...

I usually have breakfast but not today. It seemed like it was business as usual though and I know Houston was a target city.

[yeoman6987]

28. Why would you skip today?

It is happening tomorrow. I can see you not wanting to be a burden on those that are going to picket or even those that will continue to work but today? I went today. I don't think my McDonalds is picketing tomorrow. They haven't any other times.

[AnneD]

32. I skip in support....

The only thing these folks understand is profit. Take it away from them. I usually go to local owed stores if at all possible. If more folks called and supported boycotts, workers would have moe leverage.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

17. Any Metroplexers here know if this has spread to Texas. My vehicle is in the shop so

I'm stuck at home. Otherwise I'd be out looking for the action.

[ekelly]

19. I'm in Hurst...been in the office all day

But I will look around on my way home to NRH at 5pm. That's when people are picking up dinner on their way home. I'll update if I see anything significant.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

20. Great! I'm in Bedford Thanks! =) nt

[passiveporcupine]

18. One thing every one can do on that day

Don't buy any fast food on 5/15/14!

[laundry_queen]

44. I just saw this

thankfully I've been too sick to leave my house, so I managed to not buy any fast food on that day. Not hard, though. I don't normally buy much fast food at all, although my teens sometimes bring some home. I'm pretty sure they didn't get any on that day either.

[emsimon33]

21. I wish I could find some boycotters so I could join them! Minimum wage for all of $15!!!!!

[geardaddy]

22. solidarity!

[daleanime]

24. K&R....

[Jefferson23]

25. K&R..we stand united. n/t

[rhett o rick]

35. Smiting the Minimum Wage Myth

From “The Nation Magazine” - Raising the Minimum Wage Will Benefit Economy
by Barbara Koeppel February 10, 2014
http://www.thenation.com/article/178285/rand-paul-gets-math-wrong-minimum-wage#

The myth – “Raising the minimum wage will kill jobs”

Economists do not agree that “raising the minimum wage will kill jobs”, as discussed in the referenced article. They conclude that past hikes have had “little or no negative effect on the employment of minimum-wage workers.” They go further to state that raising the minimum will provide a positive boost to the economy.

In fact, the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) president, Lawrence Mishel says that,

“Across the phase-in period, GDP would grow by about $22 billion, resulting in the creation of roughly 85,000 net new jobs” and the hike would directly affect 17 million workers and another 11 million indirectly.

Minimum wage hikes go directly to those that need it the most and they will spend it to meet basic needs. This stimulates the economy and creates more jobs and profits.

“Mishel quotes a recent study by the Center for Economic and Policy Research that shows that over the past few decades, minimum wage hikes have not caused employers to lay off workers because other factors kick in that benefit bosses—such as retaining their staff longer, which means lower turnover costs for training and learning time. He adds that while businesses may pass on some of the cost of increased wages to their customers, they do this only slightly—since they must stay competitive.”

Debunking a favorite right-wing myth that mainly teens work at the minimum, Mishel notes that the people who would benefit most from a minimum wage increase are actually adults (87.5 percent), of whom more than half are women who work over twenty hours a week to make ends meet. Moreover, those benefiting from higher wages contribute half of their family’s income.

And speaking of teens, in the early 1990s, when New Jersey introduced a minimum wage bill, economists David Card and Alan Krueger surveyed fast-food restaurants in that state, along with those in Pennsylvania—which did not—and found that when comparing the two, there was “no indication” that the rise had reduced the number of those jobs in New Jersey.”

[Scuba]

36. +1

[RainDog]

41. k&r n/t