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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat would you do if your SO forbade you from going to a bachelorette party?
Or a bachelor party.
Also, assume normal party with booze and strippers.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)I read people very well, especially the guys I date
Orrex
(63,172 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,495 posts)Skittles
(153,113 posts)not to me OR any other gal
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)generally if your SO "forbids" shit, you maybe don't have a healthy relationship.
My hubs and I trust each other. Batch parties are no big deal.
TBF
(32,012 posts)Honestly if my spouse "forbade" something I would do it just to spite him. I'm like that.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I am notoriously antisocial.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Is what I would do.
Warpy
(111,165 posts)Then again, it would never occur to me to forbid attendance at a debauched brawl were the tables turned.
Do people really do this to each other?
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)Because the only way he would 'forbid' me to do something would be his attempt at humor.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)from doing anything at all. So I would probably laugh and assume that she was kidding.
snot
(10,504 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)...Well of Eternity was not my favorite instance.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)No, I -hated- Well of Eternity and how they made Tyrande out to be. Given that I'm named after the famous Ranger-General who assisted Tyrande during the third war, I continue to be very disappointed with how the great Night Elves have been treated since the start of WoW.
Buuuuut, my quote does hearken back to the RTS days when Tyrande and Shandris were the -entire reason- I played the game. Good female characters were even harder to come by back then, and they really stood out when I watched others play the game.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)I call bullshit.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)I have literally never even heard of a bachelorette party getting a male stripper from anybody I know of in meatspace.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Drunk, obnoxious and disrespectful.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)The rest dont seem to care.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)it does happen.
I knew a guy who did that sort of thing.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)But then again I'm a hermit & the only butt I get in my face is one of my cats when they are being an asshole.
Iggo
(47,535 posts)Excuse me a second.... .
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)anywhere I want.
I'd rather have him back.
Anyway, the OP didn't ask if one was IN a relationship where the other forbade anything; the question was IF you were......
Sometimes my husband didn't like me going to concerts that meant my staying away from home for a day or more. So sometimes I didn't go. He was very emotionally dependent on me (but he didn't share my musical tastes!). Usually I went anyway, because I'm a willful Scorpio only child.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)I'd be too busy packing up my stuff.
A man tried to forbid me once. Once.
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Bothered her I wouldnt go out of respect
alarimer
(16,245 posts)If they had concerns, we would talk about it and make a decision like healthy.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Oh, wait, you meant as a guest...
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)I wouldn't go in the first place. Getting hammered and stuffing £5 notes into a stripper's garter is not my idea of a good time.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)aikoaiko
(34,163 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)No one here would recognize the bill.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Especially on the getting hammered part. The headache in the morning is not worth it.
MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)wear that .
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)They aren't my parents, and I'm an adult.
I'll have no SO that thinks they own me and believes they have some sort of right to tell me what to do or what not to do.
Logical
(22,457 posts)TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)they can call the police and have me arrested. And one would think that they were smart enough to do that rather than just forbidding their partner to do any of those things as if they'd pay any attention to that just because their partner said so. They can choose to have nothing to do with me and end the relationship.
No one in a relationship has the right to tell their partner they FORBID them doing XYZ. They aren't a parent with an underage child nor do they own their partner and have some sort of right to tell them what to do or what not to do. It's a relationship - a PARTNERSHIP between two adults where one has no more rights or decision making privileges over the other. If there is something they don't like about their partner doing something their only choice is to ASK that they don't do the thing they don't like, and if they decide to do it anyway accept that they don't own their partner and leave the relationship or put up with their partner doing something they don't like.
We're talking about a fucking party here anyway, not criminality.
ProfessorGAC
(64,859 posts)Sorry.
ancianita
(35,936 posts)presume to rule over others "forbid." Fuck those people. So I'd tell my SO that.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)and the same for her.
We don't make rules for each other.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)We're not the sort to "forbid" much of anything, and she likes strippers. I find the whole scene off-putting.
Actually, I forbid animals in the house. I don't like hair everywhere or the obligatory box of cat poop in the corner. And she forbids me from making the kids live in the garage so I can transform their bedroom into a game space with a dedicated miniature wargaming table.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)LOL !!!
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)even if one of the reasons is that it would make him feel uncomfortable, I wouldn't go.
I would expect the same from him.
What I wouldn't do is cause a fuss over something stupid like a bachelorette party.
I pick my battles.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Separation
(1,975 posts)The key word here is "forbid/forbade". My wife and I are equal partners in our relationship so the whole "forbidding" thing is a moot point.
There have been times when I told my wife that I was invited to go to so and so's bachelor party and she said go for it. Then there have been other times when she said I'd rather you not, and I didn't go.
It's funny, I know couples who split their bank accounts and bills. Each one with their own bills to pay. Lol, after a week of knowing (my soon to be wife) she had my atm card, and checkbook. Neither of us can quite figure out the whole "your bill my bill" setup.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)But if he did, I can guarantee you he would not be allowed out the door. And he WOULD obey!
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)"YOU CAN JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT OBEY PART"
At most I would say "I don't think that's a good idea" but I knew better than to tell her she couldn't do something.
Of course, she knew better than to tell me either.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)MadrasT
(7,237 posts)People should not be dictating what their partners can and cannot do.
flvegan
(64,406 posts)and come in with me. Not to supervise, but to have "fun with strippers and booze" too.
Yup.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Like I said upthread, everybody goes the the gayborhood. The drinks are better.
You people in Not-California are strange.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)patronize a strip club explicit, I would respect her wishes. She would not 'forbid' me to do anything, nor I her.
No strippers at my bachelor party.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Respecting someone's relationship deal-breakers is a sign of a healthy and respectful relationship.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Tucking a few bucks is not equivalent to, say, torturing cats or voting republican.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Everyone has deal-breakers in relationships. For some it's smoking, some it's drinking, some it's irritating in-laws, some it's eating meat, some it's irresponsibility, etc. Maybe giving strippers money might seem irresponsible to some, hence a deal-breaker.
You can go to jail for torturing cats, so that's way beyond a deal-breaker.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)there is an alternative, it's called being single
Cleita
(75,480 posts)That kind of controlling behavior means there is more coming down the line and it's best to cut those ties when they first surface.
kimbutgar
(21,056 posts)Stripper at my batcherlotte party. I told them, "no strippers". The hostess told My ex ," of course we won't have strippers" Well the ladies knew I was a fun loving girl and surprised me with not 1 but 2 strippers. One a comedian nerd guy with a big dong and the other a blond hunk guy with a hard hat and plaid shirt etc. I have the pictures. Anyway the next day I was so hung over my ex was more upset over me being sick and never asked about strippers so I never told. I always wondered if my ex was so uptight about sex. I have not seen nor ever heard from him again after we split, no kids made it easy) But when one door closes another opens and next Tuesday I'll be married 25 years to my soulmate.
Tikki
(14,549 posts)Without making a lot of assumptions I would like to know if my SO knows something about the party
that might preclude me from being safe, being happy or knowing what is really going to happen.
OK, now we are down to..my SO knows or doesn't know the people involved, doesn't know of any issues
that might cause a problem and just doesn't want me to go anywhere he doesn't go
well, I would
go, but only if I really wanted to go.
Sometimes an excuse can be made for not going by saying my SO is not comfortable with me going.
There are, often, a variable or two in these situations.
Tikki
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)We aren't married yet. You can forbid me after we get married. Until then I'm a free man.
I said this is my head but it came out "yes dear, I'll tell my friends to call it off"
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)And I would ignore him if he " forbid" me to go anything . I am an adult . No one forbids me.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)sakabatou
(42,136 posts)Most would probably have rowdy guys, loud music and other awful things.
boston bean
(36,219 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)And I don't think my husband would want to be with me if I forbade him from doing things.
I'd go and let the chips fall where they may.
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)I wouldn't do anything that was unimportant that upset my SO.I think it is more important that she be at peace than me go to something so frivolous. I wouldn't care if she went to one though.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)This presupposes that she would be upset, which is unlikely.
There are controlling people out there but they tend not to be our side of the aisle.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)refusing to go to the VIP lounge. How didn't want to be alone with what he assumed was going to be a strange woman.
eShirl
(18,479 posts)Seriously.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)Life is too short to put up with that kind of BS.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)fishwax
(29,148 posts)But if my SO were upset at the prospect of me attending a bachelor or bachelorette party, I'd try to get at the root cause of the discomfort, and would ultimately (most likely, depending on some factors) respect their feelings on the issue and not go.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)as she put it, she trusts me and knows I will always come back home to her, I give her the same courtesy.
Why are people such control freaks about this anyways? Don't they know that the more they tighten their grip on the person they love the more they smother them, and may cause their SO to leave entirely?
I don't want to hold onto her for dear life, but embrace her in love and respect. Seems simple to me.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)I was a teaching fellow with full scholarship plus monthly stipend. I divorced his sorry ass.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)After i made sure she didn't have a fever.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Then I'd probably go watch the strippers just for the hell of it......
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)isn't a request. It's a demand.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)not to go somewhere with sex workers.
if lisa was uncomfortable with this i'd understand it and abide by it. also, i think strippers at bachelor parties are just generally gross
Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)If my spouse were to tell me that the idea of strippers made him uncomfortable and he really wished that I would consider not going, I wouldn't go.
If he forbade me from going? I may still not go, but I would have a HUGE problem with him.
I don't think it's semantics. Forbidding someone from doing something, even if it's something you agree with, is about control. You don't have to do that thing to seize control, but it should definitely put a spotlight on problems within the relationship.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Any SO who forbids you to do something is treating you like a child, and not with the respect due to an equal partner in a relationship.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)If my girlfriend demanded that I not go somewhere, she would no longer be my girlfriend, much as if I demanded she not go somewhere, I would no longer be her boyfriend. That's control freak-ish.
Iggo
(47,535 posts)Heidi
(58,237 posts)He's just not like that.
Exposethefrauds
(531 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)I'd thank them.
Let's be honest...for me, this is like "forbidding" me from being miserable. I'd sooner go to a rave...and EDM gives me migraines and flashing lights cause me panic attacks and disorientation. If my spouse forbid me from going, it's more like excusing me from going...she's just removed a social obligation.
(If I ever, unlikely, get married...my bachelor party will be something more akin to a catered gallery party with floor performers that don't take off their clothes. There will be fancy wine and cheese. There will be no strippers. There will be no beer. ...or I will leave my own f**king party.)
chrisa
(4,524 posts)frogmarch
(12,153 posts)I'd say, then I would dump his sorry ass.
mr. froggy and I have been married for almost 50 years and have never forbade each other from going anywhere. Neither of us is a control freak, and that is probably a big reason we're still together.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...then I'd slip off to the party.
Where have you been?
Taking out the trash.
For five hours?!!
There was a lot of trash!!!
Actually my wife wouldn't forbid me to go. She would welcome a "KansDem"-free evening.
Silent3
(15,148 posts)...would it really that much different if, even without the extra special assholishness of saying "I forbid you", an SO made it very clear that he/she didn't want you to go to such a party, with the implicit or explicit assurance that there would be negative consequences of some sort, up to and including the ending of your relationship, if you go to the party against his/her wishes?
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Just another way to make them feel small and break their spirit.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)it's the difference between taking orders and being in an adult relationship
people who can't handle the idea that they should not do things that greatly upset their spouse generally suck at relationships
Silent3
(15,148 posts)...but it can be a big difference, or a lesser difference when "greatly upset" is emotional blackmail, when the reasons for being upset are selfish.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)dawg
(10,621 posts)And I'd be miserable.
If she didn't forbid me, but I knew it really bothered her for me to be going to a party with strippers, I wouldn't do it. I'd be miserable knowing that she felt disrespected.
If it didn't bother her at all, I'd still try to weasel out of it. Watching naked women that I'm not going to have sex with seems like a waste of time to me. I'd rather just have a few drinks and a meal with friends, and then go home and see if I can charm myself into getting a private dance that I'd really enjoy.
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)If my fiance made it clear that as a condition of our getting married she would have to be the star at a drunken party with strippers I'd find another fiance.
I deserve more respect than that....
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Of every strip club in Vegas, in order to find the perfect one to have my bachelor party at.
My now-wife didn't just accompany us, she drove the car.
I would have never gotten engaged to someone too controlling, too insecure, or too uptight.
Mother Of Four
(1,716 posts)I can be pretty sardonic when pressed. My face would likely be like this
Followed by me pretending to pat down all my pockets...
Him: "What are you looking for?"
Me: "Oh? I was just trying to find the receipt that said you owned me. It's got to be here somewhere."
(Edit- first link I used wasn't showing the pic)
ProfessorGAC
(64,859 posts)Since i wouldn't go to a bachelor party (not my thing), had my wife told me i was forbidden, either:
1) I would go anyway, even though i wasn't going to, or;
2) Tell her that luckily i wasn't going to go anyway, but not because i'm forbidden.
Now, of course, my wife wouldn't do that, and she also knows i wouldn't go to one anyway. So, this is strictly a hypothetical for us.
GAC