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RandySF

(58,684 posts)
Sun May 25, 2014, 05:47 PM May 2014

American preacher: Girls should be obedient to men and not be allowed to excel in sports.

I was researching how male children interact with their mothers in various cultures and came across this gem from right here in the good ol' USA. I'm still truing to figure out if this is for real:

How To Make A Lady Out Of A Girl

2. Teach her strict obedience. Other chapters stress the fact that obedience is the most necessary ingredient to be required from the child. This is especially true in the life of a girl, for she must be obedient all of her life. The boy who is obedient to his mother and father will someday become the head of the home; not so for the girl. Whereas the boy is being trained to be a leader, the girl is being trained to be a follower. Hence, obedience is far more important to her, for she must someday transfer it from her parents to her husband.

3. She should not be allowed to play alone with boys. The parents should see to it that she plays with other girls. This is important for many reasons. She should play only with toys that are uniquely for girls. This, by all means, should include dolls, doll clothes, housecleaning equipment, dishes, pots and pans, etc. She should participate in sports enough to become coordinated but she should not excel in sports. If later she marries a man who is very athletic, she could become more proficient in some particular sport that he enjoys, but if she becomes an expert in a sport that is usually associated with men and boys, it could prove embarrassing to her future husband, and for that matter, it could entice her to become more masculine than she ought to be.

12. Teach her to plan for a profession but to hope that it will not be needed. Mothers and fathers should teach their daughters to train for some kind of profession that is always in demand. There is always the possibility that the daughter will never marry or that she will become a widow with children to rear and will not remarry. Because of this she should plan to pursue some profession that will enable her to support herself and her children in any eventuality. She should be taught that if possible, she should not follow this profession when married. This gives her a dependence, if the opportunity arises to be dependent, but an independence if needed. There are many professions that a young lady could pursue such as that of a school teacher, beautician, secretary, nurse, etc.



http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Books,%20Tracts%20&%20Preaching/Printed%20Books/Dr%20Jack%20Hyles/Children/girl_into_lady.htm

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American preacher: Girls should be obedient to men and not be allowed to excel in sports. (Original Post) RandySF May 2014 OP
The guy who runs that site is completely bonkers shenmue May 2014 #1
Not just bonkers....a LOT worse than that. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #21
That's not even the most extremist shit out there XemaSab May 2014 #2
Yep. ChristianParty Dot Net is a good example. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #22
I was not born in sin. SamKnause May 2014 #3
+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #6
Seconded! theHandpuppet May 2014 #16
A lot of fundies would dispute #12. LeftyMom May 2014 #4
Thru the internet, you can meet lots of strange people, without even leaving your house! struggle4progress May 2014 #5
+1 Jamaal510 May 2014 #19
Of course, the corollary to #3 is that all boys who have no interest in sports are effeminate -- radicalliberal May 2014 #7
Just reading it gives me the creeps! City Lights May 2014 #8
What a steaming pantload. winter is coming May 2014 #9
Fuck that shit. Terra Alta May 2014 #10
Well, look on the bright side.......... wandy May 2014 #11
And the difference between our "conservative fundamentalists" xfundy May 2014 #12
All the time theHandpuppet May 2014 #17
"Wives obey your husbands" OriginalGeek May 2014 #13
That is one huge steaming pile of metabolic byproducts there. hobbit709 May 2014 #14
Why should I obey my husband? That penis doesn't make most men smarter, as far as I can see. Shrike47 May 2014 #15
1502 called treestar May 2014 #18
Jack Hyles is a fool and a mental throwback. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #20
May Babe Zaharias kick his ass from the grave. nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #23
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
21. Not just bonkers....a LOT worse than that.
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:25 PM
May 2014

I've had the misfortune of stumbling upon this site before.....believe me, it's amongst the worst hate sites out there.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
22. Yep. ChristianParty Dot Net is a good example.
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:26 PM
May 2014

Not just extremist MRA types & extreme anti-Semites, but also extreme misogynists and extreme racists to boot.....and apparently based out of Arizona, IIRC.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
3. I was not born in sin.
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:01 PM
May 2014

I was not born inferior to men.

I was not born to obey men.

I was not born to follow any of the unproven contradicting religions of the world.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
4. A lot of fundies would dispute #12.
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:06 PM
May 2014

FWIW, Jack Hyles was so much of a family man that he had two of them: he forced his church secretary's husband to live in the basement for years so he could play house with her uninterrupted.

His son David was a chip off the old block and lost his pulpit for treating his church like a harem.

struggle4progress

(118,270 posts)
5. Thru the internet, you can meet lots of strange people, without even leaving your house!
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:06 PM
May 2014

There's often no point to doing so ...

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
7. Of course, the corollary to #3 is that all boys who have no interest in sports are effeminate --
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:14 PM
May 2014

-- and should be marginalized and that there have never been men of great courage who didn't like sports when they were boys.

Aren't mindless stereotypes fun?

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
10. Fuck that shit.
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:19 PM
May 2014

It's going to be a cold day on the sun before I start being obedient to any man, plain and simple.

That is actually rather tame compared to some of the stuff on that vile site. You should see what they say about LGBT people. It would make your blood boil.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
11. Well, look on the bright side..........
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:39 PM
May 2014

Dr. Jack Hyles
September 25, 1926—February 6, 2001

To the least he can actively do no further damage.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
12. And the difference between our "conservative fundamentalists"
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:42 PM
May 2014

and the ones in Muslim countries becomes yet smaller.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
17. All the time
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:05 PM
May 2014

There are fundie legislators out there who wouldn't mind at all implementing their own brand of Sharia law.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
13. "Wives obey your husbands"
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:45 PM
May 2014

I heard it many times in church growing up. One of the many reasons I am an atheist today.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. 1502 called
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:05 PM
May 2014

They want their culture back.



The wise lady will never "take over" the conversation. She will add just enough to make a valuable contribution and to show her intelligence on the subject, but she will always make her man feel that he is the more knowledgeable.

This kind of crap makes me wonder - if I am more knowledgeable than the man, then why can't he hand it?
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
20. Jack Hyles is a fool and a mental throwback.
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:16 PM
May 2014

Is this ass from 1914 Mississippi or something? Sure sounds like it.

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