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babylonsister

(171,048 posts)
Fri May 30, 2014, 06:56 PM May 2014

Fox News Suffers Worst Ratings In Thirteen Years – And That’s Not Their Big Problem

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/30/1303163/-Fox-News-Suffers-Worst-Ratings-In-Thirteen-Years-And-That-s-Not-Their-Big-Problem?detail=facebook#

Fri May 30, 2014 at 12:28 PM PDT
Fox News Suffers Worst Ratings In Thirteen Years – And That’s Not Their Big Problem

by News Corpse


Fox News has fallen and it can't get up. Ratings for the month of May 2014, have just been published, and the numbers are devastating for Fox News. While still occupying the top slot among the cable news networks, Fox saw about a quarter of its audience dissolve across every demographic group and time period.

Every Fox program in primetime dropped by double-digits, with Bill O'Reilly taking the deepest dive. Sean Hannity posted some of his lowest numbers ever in his new 10:00 pm time slot. And Megyn Kelly's new, and highly anticipated, primetime show failed to improve on the ratings performance of her predecessor.

To be sure, Fox was not the only network to see declines. In fact, CNN had an even larger dip. The news was much better for MSNBC who was down the least of all the cable news networks. They lost a relatively insignificant five percent of total viewers, but actually saw increases for Morning Joe, and for Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow in primetime.

For Fox to post numbers that they haven't seen since August of 2001 (before 9/11) is a painful blow to both their reputation and their bank account. But they have even bigger problems. The viewers that do tune in to Fox are significantly older than viewers of their competitors. Fox News has always had the oldest skewing audience in cable news. With a median age of 68.8 years, Fox's audience is over six years older than either CNN or MSNBC. It's even worse for their top rated program (O'Reilly) who's average viewer is over 72 years old. And their Great Blonde Hope (Kelly), who was specifically brought in to draw younger viewers, also exceeded Fox's average with her typical viewer voyeur being over 70.

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Apparently Fox is not satisfied with alienating African-Americans and Latinos and women and youth and the middle-class and workers and, of course, most of America's liberals and moderates. Now they are aiming to narrow their appeal even more by driving away the last remnants of their audience - senior citizens. Keep up the good work, Fox.
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Fox News Suffers Worst Ratings In Thirteen Years – And That’s Not Their Big Problem (Original Post) babylonsister May 2014 OP
meh. all the MSM news networks are down. slow news month. maggiesfarmer May 2014 #1
They lost the Cliven Bundy contingency. n/t Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #2
Great news, which was hard to find today: Fox News has fallen and it can't get up. Jefferson23 May 2014 #3
Foxifried RoverSuswade May 2014 #15
Nothing but old white men sitting in their recliners dem in texas May 2014 #4
However Fox News also continues to win the 25-54 demo as well. totodeinhere May 2014 #14
hard for MSNBC to battle FUX when they are on about 1/3 of the cable packages rurallib May 2014 #16
Not true. MSNBC is in about 3% fewer homes than FNC. Yet FNC routinely totodeinhere May 2014 #18
Premium? Where the hell did you get that. maced666 May 2014 #21
msnbc is premium on dish and comcast fizzgig May 2014 #29
Yep - it's considered premium here, too Politicub May 2014 #35
Same with Directv... freebrew May 2014 #36
When I travel I find FOX at every hotel, but MSNBC only 1/2 - 2/3 of the hotels. Dustlawyer May 2014 #40
That's because their RW $pockets don't care about ratings - just eyeballs erronis May 2014 #41
Noticed too tooeyeten May 2014 #38
There are plenty of Jamaal510 May 2014 #24
It's Ben Gazzey's fault. lpbk2713 May 2014 #5
I bet tom_kelly May 2014 #6
Welcome to DU, tom_kelly! calimary May 2014 #30
Well, that could mean several things . . . smallcat88 May 2014 #7
The Internet is having a growing influence at the expense of cable news, and not just FOX, Uncle Joe May 2014 #9
I know smallcat88 May 2014 #11
But but but malaise May 2014 #8
And yet they bring in Stacy Dash of "CLUELESS." How appropriate. muntrv May 2014 #10
LOL L0oniX May 2014 #13
The solution: Obamacard Bad Thoughts May 2014 #12
"...their Great Blonde Hope (Kelly),...with her typical viewer voyeur being over 70." Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #17
..give a dog a bone.. elias49 May 2014 #19
The MEN who decided to hire her are 70+ too.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #31
k&r n/t RainDog May 2014 #20
These fox downfall memes come along a few times a year. For over a decade. maced666 May 2014 #22
Regardless Jamaal510 May 2014 #25
Correction: CABLE news network. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #32
Where would the gop be without its fox "news" propaganda machine?! Cha May 2014 #23
Ha ha ha!! And wait till the days get longer, they'll be sitting on lawn chairs outdoors and MADem May 2014 #26
Exactly! Kath1 May 2014 #27
It would interesting to see how well RT and Al Jazeera, amongst others did during this time too... cascadiance May 2014 #28
TPTB will continue their propaganda through network news and the other cable news networks Enthusiast May 2014 #33
The Fox News audience is dying off Gothmog May 2014 #34
And that old for miss meGYN, too. calimary May 2014 #49
Faux Nooz blkmusclmachine May 2014 #37
Well perhaps the 25-54 year old demo is going online for their news .. I know I do. YOHABLO May 2014 #39
I find myself wondering that fairly frequently. How old is he? Well, he won't be around forever. calimary May 2014 #48
Kids are moving back in and changing the channel to Family Guy. Hilarity ensues. kairos12 May 2014 #42
Maybe Fox News should air more Kool Aid ads. nt chknltl May 2014 #43
maybe media matters and such organizations barbtries May 2014 #44
Good news! Scurrilous May 2014 #45
More blondes with shorter skirts Yavin4 May 2014 #46
This is karma for all the BS Faux News has pumped out over the past 20 years or so. antiGOPin294 May 2014 #47

maggiesfarmer

(297 posts)
1. meh. all the MSM news networks are down. slow news month.
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:07 PM
May 2014

Jay Carney's resignation today is the most interesting thing that's happened in May.

no real news on Nigeria.
CNN especially, but all the networks have beat the Malaysian plane to death.
even Fox viewers are sick of hearing about Benghazi.
the VA scandal wasn't a surprise to anyone and after the story broke, there was nothing to report until today with Shinseki's resignation.
Hillary is running. Liz insists she isn't.

I've watched less news this month too.

btw, Kelly's show has been on the air for 9 months -- I wouldn't call it "new, and highly anticipated".

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. Great news, which was hard to find today: Fox News has fallen and it can't get up.
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:20 PM
May 2014

May it stay that way too.

RoverSuswade

(641 posts)
15. Foxifried
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:23 PM
May 2014

Shawn De-hannitized.
O No Reilly.
Bret Buried.
Charles Droughthammer.
Steve Donecey.
Rudepert Murmocked.

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
4. Nothing but old white men sitting in their recliners
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:27 PM
May 2014

Love it, Bill O'Reilly's audience is over 72 and M. Kelly audience is over 70. Are they getting a cheap thrill trying to see her boobs? Pitiful!

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
14. However Fox News also continues to win the 25-54 demo as well.
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:04 PM
May 2014

Yes they have the oldest audience overall, but in the younger 25-54 demo they usually beat both CNN and MSNBC. For instance, in May Fox News had the top eight shows in the 25-54 demo in all of cable news.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/may-2014-ratings-fox-news-1-for-149-straight-months_b226483

Also, MSNBC didn't do so well in May either.

In total day, MNSBC delivered its lowest ratings in total viewers since December 2007 and in the A25-54 demo since June 2006. In primetime, the network had its lowest demo delivery since July 2006.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/may-2014-ratings-msnbc-reclaims-2_b226485

rurallib

(62,401 posts)
16. hard for MSNBC to battle FUX when they are on about 1/3 of the cable packages
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:54 PM
May 2014

and where they do exist they are a premium channel. FUX is the cable news they all give away with any package.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
18. Not true. MSNBC is in about 3% fewer homes than FNC. Yet FNC routinely
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:23 PM
May 2014

beats MSNBC by much more than 3%.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/08/23/list-of-how-many-homes-each-cable-networks-is-in-cable-network-coverage-estimates-as-of-august-2013/199072/

As you can see at the link I provided FNC has 85% coverage while MSNBC has 82% coverage.

Look, I am not fan of Fox News. I'm just trying to keep the facts straight.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
21. Premium? Where the hell did you get that.
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:39 PM
May 2014

Of the past 5 providers I used it came with basic package.
Fox, on two of them, were the ones you had to upgrade for.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
36. Same with Directv...
Sat May 31, 2014, 04:39 PM
May 2014

I was paying the top rate(minus sports packages) in order to get MSNBC.

Then, they got rid of Olberman and others. So, I got an antenna and quit paying the assholes.

$72 a month better off now and I get my news from here, mostly.

tooeyeten

(1,074 posts)
38. Noticed too
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:29 PM
May 2014

When local cable company moved Fox up the dial while moving MSNBC down the dial, in a red state.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
24. There are plenty of
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:02 AM
May 2014

leg shots of her on YouTube, too, whenever you put her name into the search engine.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
30. Welcome to DU, tom_kelly!
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:07 AM
May 2014

Glad you're here! That probably has a lot to do with CNN's fate, especially. Sure, they really distinguish themselves with overseas/international reporting, during major international stories where they have the depth and breadth that the competition just can't afford to build or cultivate. But with that Malaysian jet fiasco, I think they just took it way too far. It reminded many of us er - uh - slightly older types (who remember "Saturday Night Live" from its Aykroyd/Belushi/Radner/Chase era) of the running joke "Our top story tonight: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is STIIIIIIILLLL Dead!"

I guess it might be testimony supporting the "tacky-fication" of America. But it was damn funny because, for better or worse, the Generalissimo's looooooonnnnnnggg and irreversible decline had slowly turned into the never-ending story. He lingered for months. Could go at any moment. And nothing happened and nothing changed. It became darkly comical. So the "STIIIILLLLLLL Dead!" thing got HUGE laughs. Gallows humor for sure. Release of tension perhaps. Laughing in the face of death, which did inevitably come to the Generalissimo. Nobody lives forever. But in his case, some of us were starting to wonder...

The Malaysian plane story dragged on, I think, because CNN knew that international stories were its forte so they did what the media usually does: beat it to absolute pulpy powdery death. Beyond the point where there was anything significant to cover. They turn it into a farce. And as many of us are manifesting shorter-attention-spans, we're realizing the story doesn't have a tidy resolution the way all the 30- or 60-minute dramas do. So we lose patience when there's no nice clean tidy payoff with minimal delay.

...I think.

smallcat88

(426 posts)
7. Well, that could mean several things . . .
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:10 PM
May 2014

Slow news month - possibly.

A bunch of Fox viewers just wised up and grew brain cells - highly unlikely.

A lot of old people just died.

Umm . . . Wonder which one it could be?

Uncle Joe

(58,331 posts)
9. The Internet is having a growing influence at the expense of cable news, and not just FOX,
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:15 PM
May 2014

although they're being damaged the most because their all out conservative, corporate supremacist dogma is most opposed to actual reason, and the Internet fosters reason, via increased literacy and mass debate.

P.S. That's why they're trying to kill Net Neutrality in an effort to put the genie back in the bottle.

smallcat88

(426 posts)
11. I know
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:55 PM
May 2014

was just trying to make a joke.

As it happens I'm one of those people who cut the cord last year. But I've found sites where I can live stream all the 24 hour news channels. Guess which one I don't bother with?

Does anyone know if live streaming counts as ratings?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. "...their Great Blonde Hope (Kelly),...with her typical viewer voyeur being over 70."
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:13 PM
May 2014

[font size=12 color=red]BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!![/font]

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. The MEN who decided to hire her are 70+ too....
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:10 AM
May 2014

It's like watching a husband buy his wife the drill he wanted.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
22. These fox downfall memes come along a few times a year. For over a decade.
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:43 PM
May 2014

I've learned to ignore them after the first couple of years, having football yanked from underfoot at last second.
They've been on top so long it just doesn't matter anymore, really.
They appear to have no influence in elections. For the most part we keep winning elections.
Stop giving them a win by predicting another 'fox is over' stampede because for over a decade, those that do are the ones stomped on when ratings come out.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
25. Regardless
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:07 AM
May 2014

of whichever network leads in ratings, their audience amounts to what--less than 1% of all Americans? That is very little influence, indeed. At one point, FOX even had lower ratings than a kids' show, despite being the highest rated news network.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
32. Correction: CABLE news network.
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:17 AM
May 2014

People don't pay for cable to watch the news. They do it for sports and movies. Network news often gets 3 to 10 times the ratings of cable news which isn't really news, it's ratings driven infotainment.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Ha ha ha!! And wait till the days get longer, they'll be sitting on lawn chairs outdoors and
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:10 AM
May 2014

watching the cars go by! Or driving down to the beach or lake and sitting in the car, reading the paper!! Then going to the ice cream stand and having a cone!!!

Watch those ratings drop even further....!!!!!!

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
27. Exactly!
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:27 AM
May 2014

All of my friends consider the network a joke and most of them are in their 50s. They lament that their brainwashed parents watch it.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
28. It would interesting to see how well RT and Al Jazeera, amongst others did during this time too...
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:53 AM
May 2014

Probably still pretty low ratings, but since Al Jazeera got added to satellite services and some cable systems when Current TV went away, it would be interesting to see if they picked up some of that reduced audience.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
33. TPTB will continue their propaganda through network news and the other cable news networks
Sat May 31, 2014, 07:25 AM
May 2014

even if Fox fails completely. Still, it's good news.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
49. And that old for miss meGYN, too.
Sat May 31, 2014, 10:12 PM
May 2014

Her target demographic turns out to be a bunch of dirty old men! ROFLMAO!!!!!!! She gets the Desperately Seeking Cialis crowd! The DWINDLING Desperately Seeking Cialis crowd! Seems somehow a most fetching fit.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
39. Well perhaps the 25-54 year old demo is going online for their news .. I know I do.
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:43 PM
May 2014

I hope I live to see the day when FOX is sold and News Corp goes out of business. You think? How old is Murdoch anyway?

calimary

(81,179 posts)
48. I find myself wondering that fairly frequently. How old is he? Well, he won't be around forever.
Sat May 31, 2014, 10:10 PM
May 2014

rupert murdoch is rawther elderly. He won't be around too much longer, in any event. He has kids. I find myself wondering what kind of fighting might result over the will. Does that suggest the empire might split up? Will one heir take over complete control of all of it? He's got to have made plans. Too shrewd not to. But you never know. My fantasy, of course, is one of his heirs does a hostile takeover of News Corp, and - what if that heir was more liberal in his/her politics? Maybe wanting to dick around with Pox Noise's format or slant or whatever? Or maybe they're not quite as savvy in business and they fuck it all up and lose it all? I'm sure the koch brothers or adelson or somebody would want to buy it and keep it intact and that level of fiend certainly has enough money for it.

But one can certainly dream, can't one?

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
44. maybe media matters and such organizations
Sat May 31, 2014, 06:46 PM
May 2014

are just finally getting through. i hope so. fox is so destructive.

 

antiGOPin294

(53 posts)
47. This is karma for all the BS Faux News has pumped out over the past 20 years or so.
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:15 PM
May 2014

I hope I live to see the day when this pathetic, sorry excuse of a "news network" goes out of business for good. It has poisoned the minds of so many people in this country. Anyway, it's good to see that more and more Americans are waking up and are no longer buying into the tripe Fox spews on TV.

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