****WCGreen Update --Saturday May 31, 2014****

[CaliforniaPeggy]

This is from his sister Amy to me, just now.

His wife had called me this morning to tell me that the news was bad. Chris has had many infections over the years, and has been on many antibiotics as a result. Well, now, those drugs are no longer working. The infection he currently has is resistant to all the antibiotics. It will probably be the end of him.

The family was getting ready to meet with the palliative care team to decide on what to do. They said they would call me later, which they did.

But now the news was better. Several of Chris' high school and middle school friends had come by, and there had been much laughter, talking and whatnot in his hospital room. They were all so noisy that the staff told them to keep it down. Through all this, Chris was animated, happy, smiling and looking better than he had in months.

The family asked him what he wanted to do about his situation, and he indicated that he wanted to think about it, and tell them tomorrow.

So the situation is in flux.

I am going to fly out there tomorrow because I want to see him, and say goodbye if that is necessary.

Your good thoughts are much appreciated!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

1. Oh no.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. My dear Hassin Bin Sober...

[MannyGoldstein]

3. Love.

In the end, that's all there is.

Love and peace to Chris, to you, to all.

[octoberlib]

4. Damn antibiotic resistance. Sending good vibes!

[G_j]

5. WCGreene

[peacefreak]

6. Oh Peggy, I'm so sorry to hear this.

He has put up the good fight for so long. He will be in my prayers, as will you & all his loved ones.

[etherealtruth]

7. I am so sorry

[niyad]

8. prayers and loving, healing thoughts for chris and all his family and friends. thank you, peggy,

for keeping us informed. know that we are all there with you and his family.

[monmouth3]

9. You've been a good friend CalPeg. Prayers to the Green family and thanks to you...n/t

[CTyankee]

10. Oh, he has struggled so hard! I am so sorry to hear this...

Peggy, dear heart, my thoughts go with you as you go to his side and to him and his family who must be exhausted from worry...let us all hope for the best...and keep that thought in our minds...love to you, peggy, my dear...

[auntAgonist]

66. Edited because I was mistaken. My well wishes are still there though :)

My best thoughts and sincere wishes for a better outcome for Chris.

I hope his family stays close and is a comfort to him and to each other.


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[pinboy3niner]

67. Peggy posted that she intended to fly there from CA today. nt

[auntAgonist]

68. I did just read that further down, thank you. n/t

[madfloridian]

11. Those infections are so tough to handle.

My late hubby had one that recurred. So hard to control.

I would say thanks for the update, but it makes me sad.

[riderinthestorm]

12. .

Heartbreaking news.

This is just heartbreaking. What a magnificent fight Chris has fought to survive....

[malaise]

13. Sending good vibes for Chris

Please ask them if they have tried neem
http://www.scienceandnature.org/IJSN_Vol3%281%29M2012/IJSN-VOL3%281%29-19.pdf

[JI7]

14. sorry to hear this, i hope things can improve

but at least it seems like he is comfortable.

[nolabear]

15. Be sure he knows we are watching and we care.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

16. Be sure I will tell him...Thank you, my dear nolabear.

[AikidoSoul]

69. Pure Wild Oregano Oil will kill all kinds of bacteria, viruses, fungi, etc.

Viruses are killed by the wild oregano oil.
MRSA is killed by it too --- in English hospitals it's put into humidifiers and and small amounts are aerolsolized in the hospital rooms. This has been done many times and testing shows the MRSA is GONE. It'd imporant to get a high quality brand without additives. I prefer the type that comes from Israel. It only takes a very, very tiny amount so stop a sore throat or an infected tooth for example. Put one drop on a Q-tip and gently put it in the back of your throat, or on the gum that houses the infected tooth.

The type I order is from Israel called Floracopiea, OREGANO, SATAR (ORIGANUM SYRIACA) - 15 ML. WARNING!!: DO NOT PUT IN EARS, DO NOT PUT ON LIPS, DO NOT PUT ON VAGINA, PENIS, TESTICALS OR ANAL AREA. SKIN is o.k. Back of throat is o.k. Gums are o.k. Yes it burns a little but it's well worth it. For infections inside the body..... put 1 to 2 drop on tongue and wash down with water.

I am not a doctor. I'm sure I have to cover myself legally by saying "check with your doctor before you do anything" but personally I think doctors don't know enough about natural remedies that have more range of potency and are capable of curing, instead of "managing" illness.

[FLyellowdog]

17. So sorry...

[Warpy]

18. Shit.

Still, I think the best thing now is that he's happy and laughing with his friends. I've seen very sick people start to turn around with just that. Or not. I wasn't a stuffy nurse, I just closed the door and let them be loud.

There are a few drugs that will knock vancomycin resistant infection down until a patient's immune system mops it up but they're hard to get and have quite a few nasty side effects, especially in really sick patients with prolonged recovery periods. They are classified as "reserve antibiotics" and drug stores don't stock them for good reason.

It will be up to him to risk things like C. dificile and overwhelming yeast infection to beat this thing. In the meantime, the more you can get him to laugh, the better, although the nurses will get pissy because it makes the ventilator alarm constantly.

If he's had enough, there are worse ways to go than among friends and laughing with them.

[malthaussen]

19. Ah, so sad.

For awhile there it was looking relatively good.

-- Mal

[Kali]

20. ...

[pacalo]

21. Terribly sad.

I can't imagine what all is going through Chris' head right now.

I'm glad he's got the love & comfort of his family & friends around him.

Damn.

[DesertFlower]

22. thanks for the update.

happy to hear he's laughing and surrounded by people who love him.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

23. Thank you, everybody, for your loving and tender replies...

I sure appreciate all of you.

I don't have time to respond to all the posts, as I am trying to find reasonable flights to Cleveland tomorrow!

I will convey your love and good wishes to him once I get there.

[spanone]

24. thank you CP....

[asjr]

25. We can all hope for much improvment for him between

then and tomorrow.

[RiffRandell]

26. Thank you for the update Peggy.

I'm sorry to hear this, but glad to hear about his visit.

Good vibes and thoughts sent his way. You've been a great friend to him, and I'm sure he values that.

[femmocrat]

27. Thank you, Peggy.

I am so sorry that the news isn't better.

Prayers and best wishes to Chris and to his family during this difficult time.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

28. Damn

So sorry, Peggy.

[Sissyk]

29. Oh, no!

There was hope in each of the updates you posted here. I'm so sorry for you, his family and friends.

Let us know when you can. But, more importantly, enjoy your visit with him.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

30. Thank you, my dear Sissyk...

I'm staying in the hotel right next door to the hospital, and they have wi-fi. And I never travel without my laptop.

I feel so much better now, knowing that I will be there tomorrow, and I will see him.

[Terra Alta]

31. prayers and vibes sent his way.

[Ellipsis]

32. I'm bumming...

No words.

[Skittles]

33. still pulling for him

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it ain't over until it's over

[Ellipsis]

46. Agreed... he's one tough, tenacious, son of a bitch.

[840high]

34. Prayers on the way.

[herding cats]

35. I can't believe this can be happening.

I know I don't "know" Chris. Not like you do. Reading him here in the past and following his progress via you, Peggy, has made me feel as if I do, though. After all he's been through this hardly seems fair. To be up against an antibiotic resistant bacteria after all his hard work and fighting...it's just wrong.

Give him love from DU. Let him know we really do care and that I believe he can kick that damn bacteria in the butt, if any one can!

I'm not about to give up on him yet.

[Boomerproud]

36. Dear California Peggy you are the best friend anyone could ever have.

Have a safe trip to Cleveland (my nephew's girlfriend is an ER nurse at the Cleveland Clinic-she's from California too) and, as all have said on this thread, please give our beloved Chris all your strength. He has so fought the good fight.

[GoCubsGo]

37. Thank you, Peggy.

Sending good thoughts to Chris. Wish the news was better.

[liberaltrucker]

38. Vibes for Chris

Have a safe flight and give him my regards.

[Loki]

39. Healing energy coming your way California Peggy.

Take it with you for Chris and know there is a quiet strength here at DU praying for you both.

Peace

Lee

[TBF]

40. So sorry to hear this -

but I'm holding out hope that maybe there will be a change for the better. It is so nice you are able to go join with the others to surround him with love. Please keep us posted.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

41. I will keep you posted! I'll have my laptop, and the hotel next door has wi-fi. n/t

[scarletwoman]

42. Sending love and light...

To Chris, his family, and you...

[lunasun]

43. thanks for posting and best wishes to Chris

[kentuck]

44. Our thoughts are with him.

My heart just dropped with this news.

[pscot]

45. peace

[roguevalley]

47. all the love I can give I send to all of you. I will hold the best possible

thoughts. what a long struggle.

[LoisB]

48. You are a wonderful friend. Hugs to WCGreen and his family. Godspeed.

[Violet_Crumble]

49. My thoughts are with WCGreen, his family and friends...

I don't think I've ever talked to WCGreen at DU, but I've been following the updates you provided and been silently cheering him on through his recovery. That things have gone bad is really crap news to hear. I really hope he can pull through this.

[csziggy]

50. Good vibes and strong thoughts headed his way!

And lots of hugs for Chris and his family.

Take care of yourself, too, California Peggy. Safe travels and I hope there is good news at the other end.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

51. My deepest and sincerest thoughts, positive vibes and whatever else I can extend

To WC Green, his family, you and all involved here

[Hekate]

52. I'm so sorry... but still, how great for him to have such an uplifting visit from old friends

I remember something my Mom used to say about Granny, as she got frailer: when she had visits with people she enjoyed, she would come to life; but when her visitors left she would be exhausted.

I imagine the enjoyable visitors filled my Granny with life-force; but her own life-force was already so depleted that when they left, theirs just drained out of her again. I would never want to deny someone so much pleasure at the end of their life...

Don't know if this makes any sense to you or anyone else; it's just an intuition of mine.

Love to you and Chris and his family. Thanks for letting us know how things are.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

56. makes sense to me. Sending out Energy to Chris...

And to his wife. And to you, Peggy.

[CTyankee]

58. I saw this happen to my frail elderly mother. When I came to see her, her decline would stop and

she very much rallied...it gave me hope...but she was 94 and had lost her son, my brother earlier in the year...when she fell and broke her arm in her assisted living facility, she never recovered...

[MADem]

53. I feel odd rec'ing this thread. My "rec" means I am hoping for the best.

Maybe laughter can overcome infection. Maybe good thoughts will help. I know they can't hurt.

[In_The_Wind]

54. Thank you for the update. Please give Chris and Laurie a hug from me.

[magical thyme]

55. oh no, not after all he has gone through...

I'm glad he is surrounded by friends and family. And that you will be there to see him.

Hugs and healing vibes to all...

[gademocrat7]

57. Sorry to hear this, Peggy.

Sending good thoughts and prayers for Chris, his family and to all who know and love him.

[Bossy Monkey]

59. Dammit! Well, all fingers and toes are crossed. Best to Chris, to his family and to you n/t

[cali]

60. Peggy, I so hope that Chris can recover

If not, my thoughts are with him and his family and friends at this time. I wish him the best.

Eva

[rhett o rick]

61. My best to him and his family and friends. And of course you dear Peggy. nm

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

62. K&R. Best wishes.

[panader0]

63. Sending good thoughts

Here's to you Chris!

[PumpkinAle]

64. Sending hugs

and good wishes and good thoughts.

[catbyte]

65. I was offline. all os yesterday so I just read your post. I am so glad you are able to see him.

What an awful siege. Please let Chris know there are many friends he has never met who are pulling for him. Bless you, CP, H bless very courgeous Chris.

[Solly Mack]

70. Damn. :(

My thoughts are with him and his family.

[Puglover]

71. He is lucky to have a friend like you Peggy.

[Liberal_in_LA]

72. sending good vibes to chris

[slipslidingaway]

73. Sending positive thoughts to Chris and his family and friends ...

at this time.

[question everything]

74. So sad.

The only wishes left are to be at peace as the end is near. No pain and no suffering.

[question everything]

75. Kick for the friendship by CaliforniaPeggy (nt)

[blm]

76. Oh Peggy - Please give him a gentle hug from me.

I'd drive up there tomorrow, but, my little girl's school is through June10.

So sad for his family and for all of us.

[Xyzse]

77. Oh man, didn't know.

I am so sorry to hear this.