In Afghanistan have soldiers died in vain?

[Sea-Dog]

George Galloway’s comments on Afghanistan during a Bradford West by-election debate have been branded “shameful, derogatory and out-of-touch”.

Speaking during the televised debate with six of the candidates, Mr Galloway said he believed British soldiers who were killed in Afghanistan “died in vain”./////////



During the debate Mr Galloway said: “The idea that we should stay and shed more blood because of the blood we have already shed is simply ridiculous. They have died in vain. They shouldn’t have been sent there. They were sent there to their deaths by Tony Blair and George W Bush and the Tories and the Liberals are keeping them there.”//////

listening to a debate from George Galloway before his win in Bradford. where he said the British soldiers died in vain.
Got a point?

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/9614008.George_Galloway_attacked_over_soldier_comments_at_Bradford_West_debate/

[obey]

1. Is it possible to name a war where they haven't?

I dare say not.

[Cleita]

5. WWII. Those soldiers died protecting the free world from a real

danger from the Nazis. But it's the only just war I can think of in my lifetime.

[Mz Pip]

2. Sadly that is the reality

Died in vain to me means that they died doing something that was not necessary. Their deaths do not change Afghanistan. Anyone who is sent out to fight for an unwinable cause may die in vain.

[msongs]

3. britain's long history w/afghanistan proves they cannot learn from their past ->

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier."

Rudyard Kipling

[Cleita]

4. Seems like it, but we knew that before Georgie Porgie and his Sith Lord, Darth Dickie

got us involved.

[Sea-Dog]

6. the brits got themselves involved

[Cleita]

7. Not only the Brits but other western nations as well. n/t

[Sea-Dog]

8. and there big boys too

blaming the US for something Britain supported with gusto

[Puregonzo1188]

9. Clearly Galloway wasn't too out of touch since he won the Bradford by-election.

By quite a large margin I might add

George Galloway, right, is greeted by a supporter as he arrives to hear the results of the Bradford West byelection. Photograph: Anna Gowthorpe/PA
George Galloway, the leading figure in Respect, has grabbed a remarkable victory in the Bradford West byelection, claiming that "By the grace of God, we have won the most sensational victory in British political history".

It appeared that the seat's Muslim immigrant community had decamped from Labour en masse to Galloway's fundamentalist call for an immediate British troop withdrawal from Afghanistan and a fightback against the job crisis.

On a turnout of 50.78%, Labour's shellshocked candidate Imran Hussein was crushed by a 36.59% swing from Labour to Respect that saw Galloway take the seat with a majority of 10,140.

[link:http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/30/george-galloway-bradford-west-byelection|

Looks like it is the war mongers who are out-of-touch.

[Sea-Dog]

11. Wonder if it will be the raise and year of the Respect party?

[Prometheus Bound]

10. Some things are so obvious they don't require an answer.

But for the record, yes.

[Sea-Dog]

12. If thats the case then why do other parties use it against Galloway

[Prometheus Bound]

13. I have trouble finding one word to describe it.

Politics? Hubris? Narcissism?

[cynatnite]

14. I think it is pure arrogance to assume that a soldier died in vain...

Only these soldiers and their families have the right to say whether they did or didn't. Plenty of soldiers went to Iraq and Afghanistan believing in the reasons for going and believed in what they were doing. Who are we to say whether or not they died in vain?

From the outside looking in, it's easy for us to say it, but tell that to a loved one and you'd likely get a different answer. Also, no one wants to believe their loved one died for nothing.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. They were cannon-fodder used so ambitious politicians could look "tough".

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier

Rudyard Kipling