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Stuart G

(38,672 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:02 AM Jun 2014

Megyn Kelly Confronts Dick Cheney,' You Got It Wrong on Iraq,' Talking Points Memo:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/megyn-kelly-dick-cheney-wrong-iraq

Catherine Thompson – June 19, 2014, 7:48 AM EDT


Fox News host Megyn Kelly confronted former Vice President Dick Cheney on Wednesday night about his own foreign policy track record in Iraq, arguing history proves he "got it wrong."


Cheney had co-authored a blistering Wall Street Journal op-ed with his daughter Liz that blasted President Barack Obama for failing to negotiate an agreement to leave a residual force behind in Iraq and accused him of willfully undermining American leadership abroad.

"Rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many," they wrote.

"But time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir," Kelly said. "You said there was no doubt Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. You said the Iraq insurgency was in the last throes, back in 2005. And you said that after our intervention extremists would have to 'rethink their strategy of jihad.'"

"Now with almost a trillion dollars spent there, with 4,500 American lives lost there, what do you say to those who say you were so wrong about so much at the expense of so many?" she asked.


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Video has been posted at above site, if you desire to watch.. As we know, this asshole should be in jail, not being interviewed by anyone at any time. Let him rot forever, with his daughter who cannot even honestly pay for a fishing license..And yes, a set up, but someone did ask this question to the asshole...even Fox News watchers, who watch this shit, can see him lie...Maybe a few, just a few will wake up..maybe..
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Megyn Kelly Confronts Dick Cheney,' You Got It Wrong on Iraq,' Talking Points Memo: (Original Post) Stuart G Jun 2014 OP
So when the Fox jumps on the bandwagon, you know something foul is roaming the land. Skidmore Jun 2014 #1
Good Point..I really like this line from your post: Stuart G Jun 2014 #2
and as the voting middle is starting to figure that out, the establishment knows that means likely Volaris Jun 2014 #15
Fox is often the stalking horse for right wing change rurallib Jun 2014 #3
If Ailes approved that question then, perhaps, he is sending out a trial baloon. Stuart G Jun 2014 #6
I'm thinking Kelly has locked them into an airtight 5 year contract Warpy Jun 2014 #29
Naw quakerboy Jun 2014 #39
apropos of nothing, I adore your choice of the phrase "stalking horse." I've never before heard it. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #8
Excellent post malaise Jun 2014 #14
Megyn only does these momentary stunts for the veneer of her cred. n/t UTUSN Jun 2014 #17
They did it wrong, so we have to go back and get it "right" obxhead Jun 2014 #22
Thanks... sendero Jun 2014 #36
Just observed outside my window....... yellowcanine Jun 2014 #4
Also, tanyev Jun 2014 #5
Putting it all together...... yellowcanine Jun 2014 #7
UGH Iliyah Jun 2014 #9
I am wondering if the old style Republicans of the pre Goldwater are starting to make a comeback LiberalArkie Jun 2014 #10
Cheney was as wrong as Fox let him be. Orsino Jun 2014 #11
"New, Improved Iraq War. Now with Less Cheney!" Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2014 #12
Excellent: "(CHEENEE) was as wrong as Fox let him be." n/t UTUSN Jun 2014 #16
He doesn't care, Megyn, he's on your show to pimp his new anti-obama political group-I.E. grifting Johonny Jun 2014 #13
I can just imagine the scene: Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #18
A thing of beauty (no, not Megyn) : the CHEENEEs stunned and twisting on Faux UTUSN Jun 2014 #19
Bank account Scarsdale Jun 2014 #20
Cheney has no shame, morals or conscience. lark Jun 2014 #21
My favorite Megyn Kelly clip (until THAT statement) was her with Rove: 7962 Jun 2014 #23
Is it possible that DICK is so toxic LondonReign2 Jun 2014 #24
Exactamundo. Marie Marie Jun 2014 #34
I don't know what to think..... LeftInTX Jun 2014 #25
Cheney is poison for the Republicans and they realize it JI7 Jun 2014 #26
Now that I have seen the interview, this was a set up, softball at that randys1 Jun 2014 #27
I read the transcript and you're right. LeftInTX Jun 2014 #31
Roger and Rupert MFM008 Jun 2014 #28
She's still full of shit... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #30
First Glenn Beck, now Megyn Kelly? Have we been transported to an alternate universe? George II Jun 2014 #32
His comment: "there was no doubt in ANYONE'S mind about Saddam's WMD's" pa28 Jun 2014 #33
Megyn agreed with Cheney -- she said you have been wrong "AS WELL" Justice Jun 2014 #35
Why doesn't she just come out and say he didn't get it wrong - HE LIED!!! DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #37
37. Why doesn't she just come out and say he didn't get it wrong - HE LIED!!! amer1988 Jun 2014 #38
Faux News Telegram Sam Jun 2014 #40

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
1. So when the Fox jumps on the bandwagon, you know something foul is roaming the land.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:31 AM
Jun 2014

While the messages coming out of the rightwing for the past day or two in regard to Iraq are ones that liberals have been trying to get across for years now, it does give one pause to consider what the tactic associated with such a turnabout is. The Rs never do anything just because it is the good and proper thing to do. There is always a catch. Are they throwing the neocons overboard? If so, who is waiting to take their place? Are they giving up on Iraq? Does that seem like a reasonable question?

Too much big money is behind the Rs to just make this a simple "I was wrong" admission. Has Big Oil decided trashing our own land for really dirty oil is theirs for the taking? Have they decided the Middle Eastern oil fields can wait until a time when the memory of these oil wars have faded into the past and can be revived for a new generation with more technology and a greater need for energy?

Nothing ever just goes away. It is either put on the shelf or replace with something else.

Stuart G

(38,672 posts)
2. Good Point..I really like this line from your post:
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:39 AM
Jun 2014

Too much big money is behind the Rs to just make this a simple "I was wrong" admission

He and his ilk, won't even say, " I was partially wrong"..looks bad.
.Bush has no regrets on his actions, and neither does Cheney.
and...that is the definition of a sociopath....

Volaris

(10,364 posts)
15. and as the voting middle is starting to figure that out, the establishment knows that means likely
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jun 2014

Getting crushed in the general this year. This is faux news version of preemptive damage control.

rurallib

(62,690 posts)
3. Fox is often the stalking horse for right wing change
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:57 AM
Jun 2014

they have from time to time thrown out some really strange ideas to see how they will be taken.
I can't believe that Megan Kelly would question Cheney without a nod from Ailes.

Stuart G

(38,672 posts)
6. If Ailes approved that question then, perhaps, he is sending out a trial baloon.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:22 AM
Jun 2014

Like, ...maybe we will admit some of what was done was wrong..but this time we will get it correct..
Perhaps..But, maybe it is just that Ailes knows this one will not fly. That is the public will not accept another involvement there, no matter what his clan says. Most people now know that getting involved there again would be suicide...Let's see, Glen Beck and Pat Robertson have proclaimed that we were correct, and they were wrong. Think about that combo!

Warpy

(112,185 posts)
29. I'm thinking Kelly has locked them into an airtight 5 year contract
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jun 2014

and doesn't feel she needs to stay on the Ailes reservation any more, she'll be able to retire and write silly books on the income from what she's socking away.

Dissension among the reliable talking heads is a sign that the 2016 convention donnybrook is right on schedule.

I've spent my whole life waiting for the monolith comprised of puckerbutt conservatives all bobbling their heads in unison to crumble. Time's running out, so I sincerely hope it's in 2016.

quakerboy

(13,983 posts)
39. Naw
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 04:59 AM
Jun 2014

Its more likely to end up in "Bush/Cheney were never really Republicans. In fact, look at theses photos of them at an occupy rally! They were Liberals all along. These Wars are Democrats fault. Now vote for a real Republican, like this here Jeb character, and we'll solve all your problems quick, and give you a tax cut to boot!" territory.

Its amazing how many RW'rs claim not to have voted for Bush.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
8. apropos of nothing, I adore your choice of the phrase "stalking horse." I've never before heard it.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jun 2014

Had to look it up.

The term stalking horse originally derived from the practice of hunting,[1] particularly of wildfowl.[2] Hunters noticed that many birds would flee immediately on the approach of humans, but would tolerate the close presence of animals such as horses and cattle.

Hunters would therefore slowly approach their quarry by walking alongside their horses, keeping their upper bodies out of sight until the flock was within firing range. Animals trained for this purpose were called stalking horses. Sometimes mobile hides are used for a similar purpose.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_horse

sendero

(28,552 posts)
36. Thanks...
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:32 AM
Jun 2014

.. for pissing in my Cheerios.

As uncomfortable as your opinion is, I really can't argue with it.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. Cheney was as wrong as Fox let him be.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

They still want war; they just want it disengaged from Cheney's name so it'll sell better.

Johonny

(21,403 posts)
13. He doesn't care, Megyn, he's on your show to pimp his new anti-obama political group-I.E. grifting
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jun 2014

The more you hate on him the more the faithful will toss money into Cheney's pocket to "prove" he was right. He was there doing a free commercial. Cable news people are just suckers and Cheney used her masterfully to get what he wants. Free headlines for his slush fund. Cheney plans to go out doing what he does best. Making $$ for Dick Cheney off the stupid that worship all things Republican.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,330 posts)
18. I can just imagine the scene:
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jun 2014

Rapidly approaching footsteps coming from Roger Ailes' office down the hall, and Kelly's show producer standing behind the camera desperately giving her the "Cut it out" finger across the throat sign.

UTUSN

(71,360 posts)
19. A thing of beauty (no, not Megyn) : the CHEENEEs stunned and twisting on Faux
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jun 2014

I never watch this Faux person, Megyn KELLY, who was a beauty queen and then proved her seriousness as a news person by being Brit HUME’s uh, "protégé" (cough, cough), and she trades on being tough, meaning that she bullies when she knows the target is cornered. She made news last election when she schooled KKKarl who was hissy fitting against Faux's calling the victory for OBAMA, and she dramatically walked in her spiked heels to the back room where the calls are made and they validated that the call was going to be made contrary to KKKarl.

So here she shocks the CHEENEEs who were trading on being on friendly Fox ground CHEENEE stammers his shock while Liz sits there twisting silently. But we know these are only MOMENTS, that when the little shock is played out, the Fox-ster will get back on wingnut script.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-kelly-file/index.html#/v/3630558610001

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
20. Bank account
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jun 2014

Cheney and others made fortunes over this "war" Halliburton, with their no-bid contracts are likely STILL paying this old dickless person off. He was a failure as CEO, but more than made up for it with his placing himself in a position to pretty much run the country. W is keeping quiet, likely at a rehab facility. Those paintings look like therapy to me. Was he in the early stage of dementia while in office? Surely the DUMBEST person EVER to be placed into office as President. People in other parts of the world were shocked that W made it into the WH. Why were Americans so stupid?

lark

(23,546 posts)
21. Cheney has no shame, morals or conscience.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jun 2014

There is probably very few if any who personally benefited from that war like Cheney. WE didn't get what he wanted, control of the oil, so now he wants to go back and steal it for real the 2nd time around.

Sub human, heartless (in many ways) arrongant, and always wrong asshole. Yeah, we blame you guys for 9/11 and Iraq, because guess what, you deserve it.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
24. Is it possible that DICK is so toxic
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jun 2014

that even Faux News is distancing itself?

And why is that heinous piece of mini-me crap Liz sitting there with him?

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
34. Exactamundo.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:25 PM
Jun 2014

The GOP knows how toxic Cheney is and do not want him out there as a spokesperson. NOBODY actually likes this SOB and his nasty little spawn and the Republicans would rather he go away and not remind everyone of his time in power. He is the poster child of everything that is wrong with their party.

LeftInTX

(27,396 posts)
25. I don't know what to think.....
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:27 PM
Jun 2014

Her reaction on election night was based on obvious election results. I didn't read anything into it.

This one was planned ahead of time.

Fox is always giving a mouthpiece to the Cheneys, so I don't know. Was she merely being herself? Was she putting out feelers to the audience? Was it based on trends in conservative opinion polls?

I just don't know.....

JI7

(89,641 posts)
26. Cheney is poison for the Republicans and they realize it
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:30 PM
Jun 2014

i think they wish he would go away like Bush did so they can pretend those 8 years never happened.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. Now that I have seen the interview, this was a set up, softball at that
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jun 2014

People say - blah blah blah

Giving the dick the perfect opportunity to respond about how we sheeple are too weak and uninformed to know better and they did what they had to do, etc


In fact, what you did DICK, was make everything worse for everybody and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children in the process.

LeftInTX

(27,396 posts)
31. I read the transcript and you're right.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:51 PM
Jun 2014

After confronting him, she let him talk and began agreeing with him.

I found the transcript at Brietbart, so I won't post it.

MFM008

(19,890 posts)
28. Roger and Rupert
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jun 2014

must be sick of Cheney, othewise Kelly would be dragged off the air live or something.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
30. She's still full of shit...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jun 2014

The point is that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 911 and didn't even like bin Laden. Forget WMDs! Why did we go after Iraq in the first place? bin Laden was the target! The reason why we had to go back to Afghanistan since Obama became president is because Bush allowed bin Laden to escape Tora Bora. Obama, like most Democrats, always forced to clean up ReThug messes!!

pa28

(6,145 posts)
33. His comment: "there was no doubt in ANYONE'S mind about Saddam's WMD's"
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jun 2014

Except Hans Blix who found no weapons. Cheney told him to his face he wanted weapons "found" or he'd be publicly discredited.

Utter bullshit from Cheney. He knew.



Justice

(7,190 posts)
35. Megyn agreed with Cheney -- she said you have been wrong "AS WELL"
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:16 AM
Jun 2014

That dilutes the value of her question in my mind. Allows her to pivot and say, Cheney was wrong then and now Obama is wrong. fair and balanced, blah blah blah.

Edited to add that if she did not ask him anything about whether he was wrong, I would really feel like I was living in a country like Russia or North Korea.

Telegram Sam

(33 posts)
40. Faux News
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:21 AM
Jun 2014

appears to be laying the ground work for an unofficial Rand Paul endorsement. RP has been an outspoken critic of those (ie Cheney) who had and still do favor US military involvement in Iraq; it's a pretty safe bet that RP will run in '16.

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