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K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:44 PM Apr 2012

Michael Isikoff Says Zimmerman Calls Show No Profiling - WTH?

Michael Isikoff is an award-winning journalist and author, formerly with Newsweek, who is now an investigative journalist with NBC News. This week, he is reporting from Twin Lakes, where Trayvon Martin was killed.

Isikoff broke some exciting news today on Hardball, which he says will be crucial to the defense of George Zimmerman against any "racial profiling" charges.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/46945486

He says he went back today and "listened to ALL the Zimmerman tapes" - or calls to police, that are still in existence from the past year or so. Mr. Isikoff says at NO TIME did Zimmerman initially identify the people he was calling about as "black".

Mr. Isikoff stated this would be "critical to the FBI profiling case "and it is worth pointing out that in every instance that he called about suspicious activity from a black male he "DOES NOT VOLUNTEER THE INFORMATION". He says this shows there was no racial profiling. WTH??

Joy Ann Reid, from The Grio.com, and Michael Schmerkonish, both had to ask Isikoff if he Zimmerman ever called about "suscpicious-looking white people." The brilliant journalist had to begrudgingly admit, well, no - "but he never volunteered the information about them being black until he was asked."

Could he get it more wrong if he tried? Did anyone else see this?

He also states that they have the Power Point Presentation given to Twin Lakes neighborhood watch meeting, arranged by Zimmerman, that clearly instructs no weapons and no pursuit. Well, at least Isikoff got that much right.

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Michael Isikoff Says Zimmerman Calls Show No Profiling - WTH? (Original Post) K Gardner Apr 2012 OP
Isikoff Is A Twit, Ma'am: Collaboration With The Coup Of '98 Makes Him Permanently Suspect The Magistrate Apr 2012 #1
I'll have to look that up, Magistrate. I never realized he was such a twit ! n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #2
Federalist Society People, Ma'am, Including Coulter, Played Him Like A Mark In Gypsy's Parlor.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #8
Wonder who's paying him now. Nt DevonRex Apr 2012 #3
How is "he's black, he's acting strange..." Skittles make you trip? don't think so rustydog Apr 2012 #4
What show was this on? Catherina Apr 2012 #5
Hardball. And he stated he wasn't talking about the "Trayvon Tape", but was talking K Gardner Apr 2012 #7
Apparently if you dont use the words "fucking coon" Solomon Apr 2012 #9
You're much nicer about it than I am Catherina Apr 2012 #11
I'd heard they showed him Trayvon's pic, but I had NO IDEA they showed him the DOA at scene K Gardner Apr 2012 #14
I don't either Catherina Apr 2012 #16
I saw it. Really pissed me off. Solomon Apr 2012 #6
Itchycock is a moron guitar man Apr 2012 #10
I saw that Bohunk68 Apr 2012 #12
I loved when Joy Ann Reid pointed out what should have been obvious... Spazito Apr 2012 #13
His nickname isn't "Spikey" for nothing grasswire Apr 2012 #15
Here's the video Catherina Apr 2012 #17
I don't think I can watch it again. It makes me want to smak him upside the head, as my K Gardner Apr 2012 #18
I wouldn't be able to either Catherina Apr 2012 #21
I thought profiling was something police did. Glimmer of Hope Apr 2012 #19
Please. What Zimmerman does is so obvious to me Mariana Apr 2012 #20

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
1. Isikoff Is A Twit, Ma'am: Collaboration With The Coup Of '98 Makes Him Permanently Suspect
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:48 PM
Apr 2012

"Never forgive, never forget."

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
4. How is "he's black, he's acting strange..." Skittles make you trip? don't think so
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:55 PM
Apr 2012

I am so sick of : "how are they suspicious sir/ma'am" "Oh, they are black!"

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
7. Hardball. And he stated he wasn't talking about the "Trayvon Tape", but was talking
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:02 PM
Apr 2012

about the 5-7 other tapes that were available to listen to. Evidently only five of them were suspicious people, all of them black. But it's OK, evidently, because GZ only offered the "black" info after he was asked for a description.

What a moron.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
11. You're much nicer about it than I am
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:32 PM
Apr 2012

The video doesn't seem to be up yet, at least I couldn't find it, but while I was looking for it after you said it was on hardball, I came across this.

This is terrible! I had no idea this is how they broke the news to Trayvon's father

I knew the father was the one who had to call the police and they tagged Trayvon as a "John Doe" in the morgue but this detail is upsetting

...

After a flurry of phone calls back and forth, an officer told him a police unit was on the way. "So I went outside waiting for Trayvon to show up," Martin said.

Instead of one squad car with his son in the backseat, three vehicles pulled up: a police cruiser, an unmarked sedan and another official-looking car. Martin would discover the third car belonged to a chaplain.

BREAKING THE NEWS

When Tracy Martin greeted the police that morning, a plainclothes detective asked him to describe his son. "He asked me what he last had on. He asked me if I had any recent pictures," Martin said.

"I showed him a recent picture in the camera and he shook his head and said, 'OK, let me go to my car and get something.'" The detective returned with a folder.

It was drizzling, and he asked Martin if they could go inside. When they were seated he pulled out a photo. It was Trayvon, dead at the scene - his eyes rolled back, a tear on his cheek, saliva coming from his mouth. "From that point, our nightmare," Martin said.

...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvon-idUSBRE8320UK20120403


WTF is wrong with these people?

Please somebody, post the link when the video's up.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
14. I'd heard they showed him Trayvon's pic, but I had NO IDEA they showed him the DOA at scene
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:56 PM
Apr 2012

picture. How absolutely horrible. Its a nightmare.. I don't know how these parents are living with it.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
16. I don't either
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:35 PM
Apr 2012

and every time I see a photo of Trayvon, with that excitement in his eyes about living, I see my little brother. Then I see my parents living this nightmare. It's unimaginable.

Spazito

(50,165 posts)
13. I loved when Joy Ann Reid pointed out what should have been obvious...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:44 PM
Apr 2012

to Isikoff, his calls on 'suspicious activity' were solely on black men and never on anyone white. Whether Zimmerman volunteered the information or was asked, as would be expected, by the police operator, has little significance, imo.

The fact that ALL the calls he made for 'suspicious activity' were about black men, ALL of them, points more clearly to profiling, imo.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. His nickname isn't "Spikey" for nothing
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 09:05 PM
Apr 2012

So nicknamed in the 90s because his stories got spiked because they were so full of BS.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
18. I don't think I can watch it again. It makes me want to smak him upside the head, as my
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:45 PM
Apr 2012

mother would say.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
21. I wouldn't be able to either
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:21 PM
Apr 2012

But it's still not as bad as the FOX video I just posted in your other thread about his new defense attorney. I couldn't listen to that whole thing in one sitting, it made me so angry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=513604

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
19. I thought profiling was something police did.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:48 PM
Apr 2012

Isn't there indication of a hate crime based on his 911 calls?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
20. Please. What Zimmerman does is so obvious to me
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:08 PM
Apr 2012

because I've seen it. Good grief, they know better than to tell the 911 person on the phone that they're calling because someone is black! They always say there's something wrong with them, or they're acting strange, or that they were looking in cars, or they think they saw a gun, or something like that. Whatever they think will get the cops to come out and fuck with the guy. And they oh so innocently wait until they're asked to say, "I think he's black."

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