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Mon Jun 30, 2014, 02:42 PM

 

*ahem*

...pssssssssssssst...hey...Hobby Lobby fundamentalist fuckwagons...

...hate to break it to you...

...but your big win today...

...absolutely guarantees...

...more abortions.

Less contraception = more unwanted pregnancies = more abortions, you fuzz-witted clown train fools.

Congratulations.

Word of warning: if you keep shoving yourselves up your own asses with such vehement velocity, a point will inevitably be reached when you simply cease to exist, and collapse upon yourselves like a dying star.

I am counting the days.

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WilliamPitt Jun 2014 OP
Wait Wut Jun 2014 #1
me b zola Jun 2014 #14
genwah Jun 2014 #52
ProgressiveJarhead Jul 2014 #83
CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #2
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #3
ladym55 Jun 2014 #5
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #7
abakan Jun 2014 #21
locdlib Jun 2014 #22
abakan Jun 2014 #24
BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #44
awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #86
calimary Jun 2014 #28
locdlib Jun 2014 #41
genwah Jun 2014 #54
abakan Jun 2014 #59
mnhtnbb Jun 2014 #15
awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #85
Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #4
longship Jun 2014 #6
oldandhappy Jun 2014 #8
WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #11
me b zola Jun 2014 #16
Initech Jun 2014 #38
WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #48
AlbertCat Jun 2014 #53
WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #56
librarylu Jul 2014 #88
calimary Jun 2014 #31
SheilaT Jun 2014 #36
PADemD Jul 2014 #75
SheilaT Jul 2014 #79
MisterP Jun 2014 #9
valerief Jun 2014 #10
WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #49
valerief Jun 2014 #58
Kablooie Jun 2014 #12
jeff47 Jun 2014 #34
Skittles Jun 2014 #57
Lucky Luciano Jun 2014 #64
Skittles Jun 2014 #65
Lucky Luciano Jun 2014 #66
Kablooie Jun 2014 #71
myrna minx Jun 2014 #72
AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #74
Javaman Jul 2014 #80
Damansarajaya Jun 2014 #13
calimary Jun 2014 #33
Damansarajaya Jun 2014 #37
abakan Jun 2014 #17
joeglow3 Jun 2014 #18
Adam051188 Jun 2014 #19
dgibby Jun 2014 #32
Adam051188 Jun 2014 #35
BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #45
saidsimplesimon Jul 2014 #84
Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #20
valerief Jun 2014 #25
locdlib Jun 2014 #26
BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #46
Aerows Jun 2014 #29
Enthusiast Jun 2014 #23
Aerows Jun 2014 #27
Moostache Jun 2014 #30
Initech Jun 2014 #39
sarge43 Jun 2014 #50
nolabear Jun 2014 #40
BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #62
truth2power Jun 2014 #42
Plucketeer Jun 2014 #43
tclambert Jun 2014 #47
BainsBane Jun 2014 #51
madinmaryland Jun 2014 #55
ELI BOY 1950 Jun 2014 #60
MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #61
Lucky Luciano Jun 2014 #63
defacto7 Jun 2014 #67
Marthe48 Jun 2014 #68
Bozvotros Jun 2014 #69
Stonepounder Jun 2014 #70
BlindTiresias Jul 2014 #73
onecent Jul 2014 #76
chrisstopher Jul 2014 #77
WinkyDink Jul 2014 #78
Worsel Jul 2014 #81
Duval Jul 2014 #82
saidsimplesimon Jul 2014 #87

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 02:53 PM

1. More...

...kids on food stamps/welfare.

...kids needing an education.

...kids needing health care.

...other people's kids that no one gives a damn about. It's all about the women.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:55 PM

14. "Its all about the women"

I remember that thread, one of the greats.

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Response to me b zola (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:27 PM

52. I don't. Do you have a link, cause I can't search worth a damn here.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:17 AM

83. More Canon Fodder

 

For the war machine.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 02:57 PM

2. Couldn't agree more, my dear Will...n/t

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:05 PM

3. It's not about abortion or contraception, it's about naughty ladies being punished for having sex.

 

Since stoning is no longer chic and acceptable, what better way to punish them by forcing them to either a) not have sex b) force them to have babies?

Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine


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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:23 PM

5. But those naughty ladies have to be having sex with someone

What with needing birth control and all ... Oh, wait. I forgot. It's OKAY for males to have sex ... but not with naughty ladies ... oh, my, this all gets so confusing when one is being a misogynistic jerk.

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Response to ladym55 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:25 PM

7. Exactly.

 

Boys will be boys...but, naughty ladies are sluts.

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Response to ladym55 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:10 PM

21. That's the answer!

No birth control, no male and female sex...Women are always blamed for getting pregnant. As if she was alone when she got that way.

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Response to abakan (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:18 PM

22. I have been saying exactly since the rumblings

began about denying contraception. No birth control = no male/female sex. This would also eliminate the need for coverage for boner pills.

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Response to locdlib (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:26 PM

24. They would buy those just in case they found an unconscious woman.

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Response to abakan (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:29 PM

44. they would only have to pay the co-pay,

Since viagra IS employer approved.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:42 AM

86. not mine...

 

That being said, this is a bullshit decision

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Response to locdlib (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:44 PM

28. Welcome to DU, locdlib!

Glad you're here! The more new members we have, it's (HOPEFULLY!) just that many more who can urge their friends and family to VOTE!!! It may simply come down to that! We CANNOT sit this one out. Believe me - the other side sure won't. But there are more of us than there are of them and if we flexed our numerical muscle at the polls every time, we'd have pro-choice Dems and rational thinking in every position possible.

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Response to calimary (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:45 PM

41. Hi calimary and thanks for

the welcome. I've been on here for a bit, but I don't get to post as often as I would like. I absolutely agree with what you are saying. There is power in numbers and we have that advantage over them. I WILL NOT sit this one out and I won't allow the people that I know to sit it out either.

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Response to abakan (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:32 PM

54. Wait, no male and female sex? LGBTQ for everyone? Okay, I'm in. (Well not just yet!)

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Response to genwah (Reply #54)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:14 PM

59. It certainly cures that pesky pregnancy problem..nt

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:57 PM

15. This is so true. I got into it with a person on fb who was responding to

a post a mutual friend had made.

And here is what she said:

why should ANYbody but a person pay for anybody ELSE' sexcapades xxxxx (my name)?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:38 AM

85. bingo. nt

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:07 PM

4. I've always said that the Catholic church should hand out condoms like candy.

Best way to reduce abortions as well as STDs.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:25 PM

6. Plus, one needs to mention AIDS, in that argument.

And how a previous pope went to Africa to announce to the world that condoms didn't work... Or were evil Satan's idea... Or something like that. It didn't matter that The Holy See -- who apparently couldn't -- eventually disavowed that pronouncement. The damage had been done.

god is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything, certainly one of the best religious polemics since Thomas Paine (of whom author Christopher Hitchens also wrote a biography).

Oh, and by the way...
R&

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:39 PM

8. and more deaths.

Women who die from botched abortions in the back alley.

Children who die from malnutrition.

Society will die from lack of common sense.

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:47 PM

11. And so it seems we have returned to the fifties.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:58 PM

16. ...when disgraced women were forced into homes for unwed mothers

I have three grand-daughters, the oldest is eleven years old. My heart is in knots for them.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:21 PM

38. 1850s? 1750s? 1650s?

At least in the 1950s we made significant advances in medical care - which these dimwits don't seem to recognize.

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Response to Initech (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:07 PM

48. 1950s, when we read article after article of illegal, dangerous

abortions performed by anyone willing to take the chance of not getting caught, of rich women traveling halfway around the world to have an abortion done by a real doctor in a safe hospital setting.
Is that what we want to return to?

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #48)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:29 PM

53. Is that what we want to return to?

 

It's the very reason it was made legal in the 1st place.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #53)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:49 PM

56. Of course it was.

I fear I may be leaving the church soon.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #56)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 12:25 PM

88. Don't fear.

Just do it.

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:49 PM

31. No kidding. My late father-in-law was a doctor.

He told this story about driving a bleeding young woman to the hospital. She was hemorrhaging. Pretty much all over the back seat of his car. She'd sought a back-alley abortion that went bed, as most of them do, and she was actually on the verge of dying. He was a very moral very conservative gent. But that made him decide that safe and legal abortions were something that was needed - because they kept young women of childbearing age ALIVE and HEALTHY, so they could eventually have those babies and care for them and afford to raise them. Chances are if you were lucky enough to survive a back-alley abortion, you were often rendered infertile for the rest of your life. Wire coat hangers anyone?

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Response to calimary (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:09 PM

36. A long time ago, possibly even before Roe v Wade

 

someone wrote a novel addressing this. I could swear the title was "The Afternoon Women" but I cannot seem to find a book by that title.

The events of the novel definitely take place before Roe v Wade. A doctor, whose daughter died from a botched illegal abortion gradually comes around to understand the need for abortions, and over time starts doing them. In the afternoons. Everyone in his city knows he does them, and for years he's left alone. There's a crisis when someone, a politician, a police chief, I don't recall the details, decides to shut him down.

And the reason he starts doing the abortions is because some time, maybe a year or so, a young pregnant woman goes to him asking him to perform one for her and he refuses, as he's opposed to abortion altogether. She says to him, "I thought after what happened to your daughter you'd understand." She goes away, but her remark forces him to rethink everything, and he realizes that he can save lives by doing proper medical abortions.

I wish I could recall when the book came out, or it's correct title. If anyone knows, please share.

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Response to PADemD (Reply #75)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:26 AM

79. Thanks.

 

I googled the name as I was writing my above post and it did not show up.

I recall the book as being powerful, especially as it was written at a time when Roe v Wade was still unimaginable. I'm reminded of the power of Uncle Tom's Cabin, written at a time when it seemed slavery would last forever.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:43 PM

9. but wouldn't that be bad for their investments in contraceptives?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:46 PM

10. Yeah, but maybe that's what they really want. More dead or desperate women. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:14 PM

49. No, what they really want

is more population for more profits.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #49)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:32 PM

58. True. nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:52 PM

12. But not for the girl in the photo.

Since Ellen Page has come out as rainbowed.

I guess the photo refers to her character in "Juno" though.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:00 PM

34. Not all sex is consensual.

Sometimes, lesbians need birth control too.

And many times, women use the same medication for non-birth-control reasons.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:05 PM

57. *NEWSFLASH*

lesbians can and do have babies

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Response to Skittles (Reply #57)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:39 PM

64. Usually intentionally...at least that is what I hope.

Though they are obviously entitled to birth control too fit whatever reason they please.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #64)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:41 PM

65. no

very intentionally they can seek sperm donors

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Response to Skittles (Reply #65)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:43 PM

66. Yes. I think we miscommunicated. No disagreements from me. nt

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Response to Skittles (Reply #57)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:38 PM

71. Yes, but I can't see how contraceptives could help a lesbian have a baby.

Of course there are women who consider themselves lesbian but are occasionally bi, so contraceptives would be needed.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #71)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:51 PM

72. Oral contraceptions also aid in medical problems like endometriosis,

which can effect *any* women.

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #72)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 05:39 AM

74. And that is what is conveniently forgotten in all the fundie discussions.

They're too busy painting women who use birth control as sluts who can't control themselves (see Limbaugh, Rush -- Sandra Fluke.)

I'm curious to know if there is any comparable medical benefit to Viagra, Cialis, etc. Thought not. But those medications are perfectly okay, and if insurance can't pay for them, Big Pharma will help! Because they're just so....needed.



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Response to Kablooie (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:59 AM

80. ...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:53 PM

13. True, of course they don't care.

 

Abortion has never been about "saving the babies."

It's always been about women having (gasp!) SEX.

If it didn't involve sex, the FundyCons wouldn't give a shit about it. For example, in-vitro fertilization results in some two dozen unused fetuses which are (or will be) eventually destroyed. You never hear about anti-abortionists picketing in-vitro fertilization clinics, do you.

No sex = no problem for the FundyCons.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:53 PM

33. Welcome to DU, Damansarajaya!

Good to have you with us! Great point you make, too. It's all about sex. We all suffer the curse of the Puritans. Latter-day Puritans in this case. And when it's also a tool to further hamstring women, even better! Because everybody knows we women just can't make our own decisions now, can we? I'm surprised they even trust us with the grocery shopping or the house-cleaning...

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Response to calimary (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:10 PM

37. Thank you. nt

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:04 PM

17. Please add the supreme court

In counting the days until some of them meet their demise...Couldn't come fast enough for me.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:05 PM

18. Not in their world

 

The honestly believe by utilizing these 4 forms of medication, abortions were already taking place.

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Response to Adam051188 (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:51 PM

32. Jesus also said:

Render what is Caesar's unto Caesar and what is God's unto God, so that would be the religious reasoning re: taxes.

As for the HL case, I have no answer-I'm still reeling from the SCOTUS decision.

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Response to Adam051188 (Reply #35)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:51 PM

45. almost, but the Supremes also made exemptions for

other religious beliefs that could be harmful to one's health, like transfusions.

It's the Having Sex While Female--or Even Making Us Think About You Ladies Having Sex Even Though Birth Control Medicine is Used to Treat Medical Conditions Too-- And Trying to Get Away With It Without Proper Punishment thingy that the Highest Court in the Nation specifically ruled on.



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Response to Adam051188 (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:17 AM

84. Adam, hypothetical scenarios are the provence of Hollywood.

Welcome to a reality based community, imho.

This thread is about women's rights, not about Adam's or anyones' religious beliefs. We women have benefited from men who stand up for us, with the help of friends like Mr. Pitt.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:05 PM

20. Guess what their response will be? Stop having sex. Sex is for procreation ONLY!!

 

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:29 PM

25. People will stop having sex when SCOTUS stops having massive buffer zones for themselves. nt

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:29 PM

26. Yes, something tells me they will try that tired line.

But then, the challenge for them will be to stop taking boner pills. Boner pills are marketed primarily to old men who are past the age of starting/making babies. Their primary function is to keep old men able to get it up so they can have recreational sex. So if people are only to have sex for procreation, then boner pills MUST be taken off the markets immediately.

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Response to locdlib (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:54 PM

46. Ohhhh, silly locdlib, tricks are for -----dudes!

So boner pills are A-OK

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:45 PM

29. Unless a man has sex. n/t

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:24 PM

23. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

Thank you, WilliamPitt! You are absolutely correct.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:31 PM

27. I always said that once they got finished with abortion

 

they would come for contraceptives. I'm really sorry that I was right.

It isn't about women's health, fetuses or human life - it is about men controlling women's destinies since we can do something they cannot - bring new life into this world. The resentment that for all of the things that they think they are, that is one thing they are not.

It pisses off some men to no end, and they will do anything to control the uterus that they don't have.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 04:47 PM

30. You cannot reason with these people.

They have foresaken reason, logic and facts eons ago.

I simply will apply a religious test to businesses - those that profess none and take no overt acts of evangelizing will have a chance to earn my business. Those - like the Hobby Lobby - that cannot help themselves or use religion as a bullshit excuse to not participate in the health care system or provide adequate and comprehensive women's health care options will get nothing but negative feedback from me on every forum possible - word of mouth, reviews, chat boards, signatures on forums, BBB, advertising, billboards, graffiti, TV and radio call in shows. I will go out of my way to hurt their business until such time as they stop openly advocating a religious position as terms for doing business with them.

I have a cautionary tale for these Jeebus freaks. About 10 years ago, in the Missouri town I am sentenced to...err, I mean I live in, there opened a "Chirstian" bookstore. BIG sign out front...HUGE lobby and way more square feet than they needed. They put this thing in a strip mall that was situated right next to the entrance to the public library for the county (not by accident I assure you). At first, they seemed to be busy and doing well, but within 16 months the place was gone and the signs and lobbies and inventory liquidated...these X-tian freaks may feel "called by Jeebus" all they want AT HOME, IN CHURCH, IN THEIR CAR, WITH THEIR OWN KIDS...I have nothing to say about it until you first say it to me. After which I will no longer darken the doorstep of your establishment!

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Response to Moostache (Reply #30)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:23 PM

39. Even simpler test - ask them where in the Constitution a religious test is required for office.

(hint: it clearly says there is none)

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Response to Initech (Reply #39)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:24 PM

50. Not just none. It prohibits any. nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:40 PM

40. Products made in China, investments in contraceptive producers.

It ain't the moral high ground. It's the love of money. We women are just the pieces they can get away with moving around to get it...until we organize.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:29 PM

62. ^^This!^^

As women are likely a majority of their customers, they could easily put them out of business. And I sincerely hope they do.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 05:59 PM

42. Will...You assume they give a shit about who lives and who dies. n/t

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:23 PM

43. KAY 'n ARGH!

 

Yeah Hobby Dunces. I hope God puts a gold star next to your names. Of course, for all the unwanted, abused, aborted souls you've assured passage to, you might get something other than a gold star.

As I've said before.... IF there comes to pass, a "rapture" one day - there's gonna be a whole HELL of a bunch of disappointed folks wondering why they've been left behind. Five of them, for sure, we'll be wearing black robes.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:00 PM

47. So if women working for Hobby Lobby get pregnant, does Hobby Lobby pay enough for them to

support their family?

Somehow I'm thinking that's not a part of their religious beliefs.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:26 PM

51. You make the mistake of assuming they actually care about unborn life

Their goal is and always has been to use the state to control women.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:42 PM

55. Sorry, Will, but it means even more children growing up in poverty. Think about

the early part of the 20th century and late 19th century. That's what these motherfuckers want.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:24 PM

60. We are all mad and discouraged but

lets' show our power...BOYCOTT HOBBY LOBBY and lets stay with it...We had Limbaugh on the ropes and let him off...Lets Not Do The same !!!!

Boycott Hobby Lobby

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:28 PM

61. I'm too sad to drag out the Monty Python clip...

(you know.. "every sperm is sacred"

I'm so tired of what is happening to privacy, whether it be between a woman and her physician or talking about it here.

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Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:36 PM

63. +1 for fuckwagons! nt

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Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:44 PM

67. Not to mention

the negative effect this will have on Republicans come next election. Republicans will be associated with undermining womens right to contraception. That will play in favor of Democrats. When that Republican light bulb finally goes on, they will be very pissed or probably at the most confused.

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Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:50 PM

68. BOYCOTT

When dumbass Papa John said he'd lay people off, when an Applebee's franchise said he'd lay people off, because ACA went into effect, I stopped being a customer. I don't want to get into quality of pizza or food. I ate at both occasionally, a treat for a retired woman who cooks like a grandma 25 days out of 30. But any company that demeans me or my sex or my humanity is on my boycott list. I never shopped at Hobby Lobby, and now I never will. I wish I could boycott the idiots on the Supreme Court who ignore 50 to 51% of the humans in America.

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Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:12 PM

69. It is just slight of hand.

We need to remember that the people really running the Republican party don't really give a fuck about abortion. In fact they really don't want a lot of Medicaid babies, preemies, fetal alcohol syndrome, and otherwise deathly sick or addicted babies jamming up the neonatal intensive care and jacking up their state deficits. They would look like the reptillian slime they are if they shut off the oxygen and IVs on 18 oz preemies and hydrocephalics that would otherwise have been aborted. But they need these dimbulbed single issue voters and they needed a win to keep them juiced on the Republican brand. So this little victory does the trick and doesn't do much of anything else except fuck over the women of Hobby Lobby who will have to find other ways to get birth control. Of course it is wrong. It is also cynical as hell on their part because they know the Supremes will never outlaw abortion for the reason mentioned above. But they have to look like they will or the jig is up. The republican state legislatures are doing all the heavy lifting against abortions and SCOTUS has done nothing but tease them along, knowing they can shut it all down if it gets out of control and expensive.

Meanwhile the Republican controllers will make sure that their Lindseys, Ashleys and Penelopes have the best contraception money can buy and quick trips to Canada or even a write off trip to France should she forget her pill. This also is an issue that will frustrate and exhaust our activists so that is a bonus for them.

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Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:47 PM

70. Time to dust off that old copy of Lysistrata!! n/t

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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 04:06 AM

73. Eh

The goal is to restrict abortion and contraception within the bounds of the constitution (easier than you think) simultaneously. This is not a contradiction, this is intentional.

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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:40 AM

76. Great post. K & R n/a

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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:58 AM

77. Well said!

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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 06:58 AM

78. Were I a political cartoonist, I would draw women wearing "Hobby Lobby Employee" buttons being

 

harangued as they try to enter a Planned Parenthood clinic.

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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:01 AM

81. "pay" for contraceptives

I guess it's too late to ask now, but did anyone ever ask any insurance company if rates for Policy A would actually go down if coverage for contraceptives were removed from Policy A?

Pregnancy and its' complications are a lot more expensive than contraceptives.

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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:14 AM

82. You nailed it, WRP. n/t

 

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Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:49 AM

87. Yes, the males on SCOTUS intended to

deny women their rights. This is not about a balanced judicial opinion. It is not helpful in mending the fabric of our diverse society, nor a reflection of equal rights under the rule of law.

I attended university during the bad old days of illegal abortions. For those with money, a physician could be found at a price. For those without money, well, these are not my stories to tell.

I have been a fierce supporter of birth control for many reasons, including the welfare of unborn children, preventing stds, and women's reproductive health. Some fools think they can legislate a religious morality, shria law, that goes against the physical well being of men and women.

Sex is not evil. I object to the condemnation hiding behind the curtain of religion/faith. It is the stereotypical response of old men, especially those of privilege and the wannabees of both sexes.

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